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Spirit is fun to play against
Actually for me, attempting to be as unpredictable as possible to avoid her is so interesting!
I love playing vs Rin so much, love much more than vs Nurse and espesially Huntress, but...
Probably, I love to play vs her bcs I also play as spirit very much. I just know how to counter her power. And, maybe, she can be a bit annoying for players who doesnt have her. I don't know. What do you think?
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Yesss ty! I love how intense it is facing her and it sucks sooo many people dislike her and dc against her.
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Or maybe its just an opinion that they dont have fun against Spirit.
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being unpredictable doesn't matter against a spirit with a pair of headphones. there's nothing to predict, she can tell where you are while you have no idea what she's doing. fair
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I like facing her, one actually just gave me the hatch because my team kept farming each other. :)
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You are allowed that opinion, but coming onto the forums to blame the killer's design for your bad plays is foolish. Different killers should require different tactics to face, but there is a general consensus of "can't run in a circle= No CoUnTeRpLaY, Killer OP."
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Why don't you have fun?
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I usually dont have fun against Spirit because i feel like i dont really have a say in anything the Spirit does, or that if im injured without Iron Will im basically just dead.
Also I just find short chases very boring in general. My favorite part of the game is to get chased, but good Spirits can down you insanely fast.
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This was a really great point, I am an aggressive survivor for the most part and I looooooove chases.
However, as the creator of the post mentioned, playing a lot of spirit and being really good with her is fantastic for figuring out how to play against her, I constantly catch myself saying "what would I do" when I'm being chased by her and I try to be unpredictable.
About being injured, it is much harder to escape. Perks shouldn't be what people rely on to go against killers because then they have to run it almost all the time, and it might not even be great against the killer you get so none of that bring iron will stuff. My best bet is to find a window or pallet and just play the guessing game, again trying to be unpredictable. If there's nothing around, run in circles on yourself, go around obstacles and trees and you just might trip her up.
Final tip is she's not like other killers, she can end chases quick so change up the normal play style and really try to evade her.
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Not an interactive killer, I would know as I main her. She barely actually chases anybody half the gameplay involves just seeing a killer stand still. Which isn't fun for a lot of people. Nurse is an example of a fun interactive killer that is a little OP but I don't think she needs nerfs especially because of the upcoming add-on changes. I don't think spirit should change at all but many play the game for the chase so when that interaction isn't there many get bored.
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i HATE Prayer Beads. She's a strong Killer already, that add on makes her obnoxious.
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She's fun, to play and to play against. I'm not good with her tho.
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To be fair though killers do need the ability to have some chance of ending a chase relatively quickly, since generators can be repaired pretty quickly. That's why many of the M1 killers are lacking a bit, which will hopefully change when most maps are reworked.
I can understand though that it feels like there is very little counterplay for suvivors against Spirit. I'm not the biggest fan of facing her either.
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You can't counter a Spirit if she knows what she is doing. Only thing you can do is make it harder for her to track you.
All you can hope for is delaying the inevitable.
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People who keep coming on the forums forums whining about her mind games being a "coin flip" should learn to play better and not only leave themselves two avenues for escape and get mad that the Spirit excels in those situations.
Think ahead about where you are going, what she expects you to do, and give yourself more options for her to guess wrong.
Also Iron Will is meta.
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when only user is bot its funny to agans that character
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playing spirit is funny
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Nice bait
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Isn't that true for most killers if they're experienced in tracking,?
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There is no say in how good you are as a survivor. If the Spirit can hear, you will die. If she is good, you will die. If you’re good, doesn’t matter...you’re going to die. There is no “unpredictability” the chase is determined by the question “Is the Spirit good at tracking?”
Like @Mew has said, I feel like I have no say in what happens. The chases are short and boring. Also like @Sairek has stated....nobody hates on Spirit because she is strong. We WANT strong killers. Spirit however offers nothing but easy chases for the Spirit and boring matches for everyone except the Spirit herself.
Yes, my killer main is Spirit. I love her design and she is fun to play. I do however want to move my main to Hag. She’s just so boring and unfun to face because the round is so predictable if you’re good at Spirit.
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@Masantonio No? Even if the killer is good at tracking they all have counters that are capable without the use of perks. Who thinks Wraith and Leatherface aren’t counterable if the player is good?
The exceptions are Nurse and Spirit who you pretty much need perks to even slightly counter.
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Let's say your at a pallet loop and spirit is on one side and your on the other. At this point you either stand still and she will eventually phase and hit you or you can try to walk away because she is phasing but she was faking it and now your away from the loop and get hit. There is nothing you can do to counter her you just have to hope that the spirit messes up. This is how almost every encounter with spirit plays out. There is no counter play to her and that's why she is so unfun and unfair. Also you should never have to run a perk to counter a killer. Perks can be helpful against specific killers, think small game or urban evasion against hag. They are useful against her but not needed to play against her. With spirit you have to have iron will or else you will always get hit by spirit when she is phasing. She is just a very unfun killer to verse because she has no counter play.
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Fun is subjective, it isn’t bait just because you don’t have fun against her.
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I don't have fun against her because I have not found a single Spirit after Legion who didn't run Prayer Beads, and that add-on is so unfun to play against
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if it's a boosted spirit then i agree, she's fun to go against
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Yaaaawn, so boring. When I go against spirit I feel like not trying... U know, just not pressing anything. Like spirit, just standing still and "mindgaming" lol
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Advice on what can be done against a Spirit without perks: She has footstep sounds and disturbs crows when phasing. Both of which are noticeable inside her terror radius. She also has an audio cue while phasing(when outside terror radius). When you hear her phasing or notice her chasing someone else near you then stop repairing a gen, cleansing totems, searching boxes etc or risk getting grabbed.
To add further, if you suspect she's faking her power then run towards a window and slow vault it or flashlight her. If she was phasing SHE will have to guess if you vaulted the window or not. If she is faking it then you are safer near a window rather than a pallet that wasn't thrown down. If she is not phasing and you try to flashlight her she will move or be blinded. Don't move away from a safe spot or walk towards a safe spot to force her to react.
If you're bold enough, Spirit can be pallet stunned mid phase and while she is coming out of phase. You can throw down a pallet early and play around that though it's most effective while she is phasing. Pallet plays force HER to guess which side you are on of you don't fast vault when unnecessary. Start looping her to force her to phase then feign continuing the loop and run somewhere safer. Most effective if you backtrack while avoiding running back the same exact path to avoid running into her or in a completely different direction. Preferably near another window or thrown pallet.
When she messes up she is punished with 110% movement speed while her power slowly recharges. If she chose recharge time addons that would take the place of other possible ones like speed or duration.
In short: Windows and thrown pallets are strong against Spirit. Spirit can't see you nor can survivors see her while she is phasing. Though, both are able to hear eachother.
It is entirely possible to escape vs a good Spirit. It's difficult, as it should be, but possible. Just as it's possible for a good Spirit to do well against good survivors.
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Idk why you give me advices. Did I complain about spirit being OP and me losing all the time or similar? She's boring to verse. Nothing more or less.
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@justarandy this exactly. She's horribly boring to verse because your input means next to nothing... other than hope you guessed right and she messes up.
But people'll keep defending her because of the power trip she offers - just like some do Nurse. They then delude themselves into believing that because something works on a bad Spirit, it must work on all Spirits.
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@Kabu except that the OP asked "What do you think?" @justarandy gave their opinion and I, mine. We're entitled to as much.
If you don't like that, then that's too bad.
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Flashlights aren't too viable against Spirit, a Spirit can just look down to not get blinded and thus tricking the survivor that she is actually phasing.
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So where exactly is the fun in not knowing anything and just praying for being lucky?
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People, please. Fun is subjective. Y'all are acting like OP said the Nurse is the worst killer. Calm down.
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True, you can't escape a good killer because they know every survivor trick. :)
However, to the topic at hand, Spirit is fun to verse against in my opinion because she's just so creepy!
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At first i thought this was bait lmao.Ok so,i will tell you why it isnt fun to play against spirit.Just one sentence,counterplay is LUCK based.And luck is flipped into the spirits favour.If ur injured without iron will you are DEAD.Even if u have iron will ALOT of spirits are running stridor now so it doesnt even matter,she can hear you.When you arent injured or if she doesnt have stridor and iron will works everything is luck based in spirits favour,but if she can hear you there is nothing you can do.There is no "mindgames" verse her.You CANNOT be unpredictable cause if ur injured she will hear you anyway cause literally all spirits ive seen at red ranks use stridor.Its also pretty sad you need a perk just to SLIGHTLY counter her.Then there are her addons like for example,prayer beads.They make it so unless u have spine chill u are 100% #########.Even then u are #########.So called "mindgames" are when you give the other side information and they fall for it like the red stain mindgames.While going against spirit you dont have ANY information on what is she doing,especially if she is running prayer beads.If ur teammates are actually sentient they WILL do gens but other than that chases last really short.Also her passive phasing can ######### you over more than anything sometimes.She dissapears together with her red stain near a jungle gym you hesitate to keep going for example cause you think she is doing something else and then you DONT make it to a pallet.On smaller loops its even worse cause she can just stand still.If u run away she will see you running and will phase after you instantly and ur gonna get hit.If u stand at the pallet she will feel ur collision if u go around the pallet and if you keep vaulting it she will just wait on one side for you and will hit you or she maybe is just standing still so you get hit without her even using her power.Atleast on t walls its a 50/50 chance for both you and killer to guess correctly while spirit has luck completely tilted in her favour.I have enough game sense with spine chill to use it properly against spirit but it even has it limits,and once spirit catches onto what are you doing after a loop or two you are dead.There is my whole reasoning on why spirit isnt fun to play against.I dont dc and will try my best but if the spirit is good i am gonna die fast in a chase,and only hope is gen rushing.Hope you understand what i meant in my post.
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That's because you choose to look at it as boring. Change your mind set about her.
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Somehow I read the entire post in a sarcastic sounding voice. Lmao
Personally I find her a bit annoying because she takes the fun out of a chase. At least with Nurse you have LOS and it makes the chase interesting and mindgameable on BOTH sides.
Half of the times when I have properly mind gamed a good Spirit has been out of pure playing dumb. Ending up in an unsafe zone because that’s the only place she didn’t think I would go.
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I gave my opinion about she's being boring to verse for me. Simple. Is that to complex for you to understand?
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It's sad people have to look at chases as only fun if they're something they can usually win. As soon as they're losing, its no longer fun. Actually stupid to be like that when playing games.
She is good at making chases short, so i understand that part because chases are fun. But you can absolutely still have long chases with her, and all her chases are usually terrifying anyways adding just that much more to the fun.
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No they are just mad that there are killers that can actually win without having to rely on the survivors mistakes.
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I think she is just awsome all around, fun to play as and play against.
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Not really. Ive seen people be perfectly fine with Nurse but hate Spirit with a passion.
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Sucks that this thread turned into a hate fest against Spirit.
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Except that you are complaining rather than discussing your thoughts. That you would rather afk than play against a Spirit. There's no discussion there. There are plenty of other threads complaining about her.
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I don't like going against her but I usually don't dc
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theres less counterplay with nurse???
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Ok be but ok
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Shes ingenious because she turns the chase on its head, pallets are less safe but they're also less needed vs her..plus its refreshing, plus she adds a fear factor few killers posess..spirits separate good players from bad as does nurse, besides I absolutely love the thrill of knowing what the killer will do and actually earning my survival through good plays
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Yet people don't all the time..odd
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@Kabu except that I complained and then explained the reasoning behind my complaint, thus provoking a discussion. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
I've never said I'd rather AFK against a Spirit, so idk where you got that from. I'd appreciate it if you don't force narratives on me.
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