Legion Has No Power Change My Mind
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Idk, I like his power. It isn’t that great but it is there.
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Its a survivor but angery
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Just played him recently, I agree, he is only useful to run to gens using Discordance and Surveillance.
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Ah so an ascended Nea?
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Yes
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Makes sense to me.
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Legion has the power to give survivors ever lasting Borrowed Time and get nerfed because every new killer is going to share in their mechanics. There isn't a single thing unique about Legion anymore other than being a killer who can vault palettes.
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Exactly. His power is the worst in the game. As much as I appreciate the devs this killer needs a lot of love ):
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I can't change your mind if I agree with you :v
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Darn.
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You press M2 and something happens.
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Yes you go a very small amount faster and can vault pallets and get a hit and get punished by a stun and if you try to use it again the survivors are invincible to your power and you are stuck getting looped because you have no power. But technically you are correct.
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I can't change your mind, because I would have change mine
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rip
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Vault pallets... That's a big statement, let's say they can slowly and carefully step on a pallet without breaking it haha
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They have the Power to run slightly faster & to, SOMEHOW, stab someone hard enough to make them bleed until they're down, but deal no damage with the second stab.
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C'mon guys... That's not fair. See, his power is so powerful that he get stomach pain and get almost unconscious every time after he used it.
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He also gets stunned for that can be looped and feral frenzy and has no power while your injured.
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Not really...
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Sounds like a great power to me.
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Legion does have a power, you get a 4 second stun and also partially blinded, too OP plz nerf.
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Agreed
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I really hope we don't have to wait a damn YEAR for them to fix another Killer who was clearly broken by the changes they made.
Yes, he is playable and you can play well with him and he can keep everyone injured but this isn't a case of those secret ascended Freddy players who know more than everyone else, this is just bad.
Legion can injure you and he can give you a very weak debuff called Borrowed Time, once you're injured he has no power, nothing he can possibly do to ruin your day because you're injured. If Legion uses their power on you while injured you get away, that right says their power is useless and does nothing.
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he had before the rework
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100% agree with you. Freddy was a special case where you needed a special play style. There is no secret play style with Legion.
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But not anymore ):
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I think they should just do away with the pallet jumping and just give him 30 seconds of extra speed and whoever he hits goes into dying immediately, but once he puts them into dying frenzy is over and he stuns, igniting he doesn’t hit anyone, no stun
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Your entitled to your own opinion, but if you want to hear my point of view...
Old Legion was slightly broken, but honestly needed a bit of a nerf because once a Legion set their eyes on someone, you couldn't stop them from getting them down unless they lose interest. The changes they made were drastic, but it did handle the problem. Saying Legion has no power is underrating their potential. With no prior set up, if Legion finds four people in one area, He can effectively injure them all faster than any other killer. With Killer Instinct active, it also means hiding won't do any good for anyone who hasn't been hit yet. I loved the original idea of Legion, hitting someone multiple times to down them, but the new Legion is how most everyone played them in the first place. Quickly injuring a few people, end Frenzy and down a survivor with a basic attack. Frenzy is a great power if you know how to use it. It may feel underwhelming, but Legion is kind of supposed to emulate what a real person is capable of thus being able to vault pallets like normal survivors.
Saying Legion has no power is undermining what they are capable of, but most importantly, the question you should ask is: Is Legion fun to play with? I think so, but to each their own.
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He has a power just not a very good one.
He gets an Easy first hit but after that he's a regular m1 killer and we all know how they struggle.
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The reason I say he doesn't is the severe punishment for so little.
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They stripped him of lethality..and theres no real benafit to tagging multiple targets unless you run thana to force healing
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He can't even tag multiple targets if they know how to split up
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I know it is your opinion that you have your entire right to express but there are a few things that i want to mention as someone who played legion 70% of the 750 hours that i have on this game.
There are so many thing wrong here. Legion was badly designed, not broken (without franks mixtape ofc). He needed a fix, not a nerf. Its buffs mixed with fixing the exploits.
The situation that you described when 4 survivors are in the same place happens once in 30 matches. Even if they are, you are 1 miss or 1 pallet stun away from losing all your little momentum. Ofc, when the 2nd survivor doesn't outrun you like 60% of the time.
"Frenzy is a great power if you know how to use it."
The amount of things that his power can do is so limited that few to almost no skill matters. A good legion knows how to time his power well, but there's nothing more to do that makes you say "I'm a good legion player".
Also, a power that gives you 6 or 7 downsides using it doesn't seem fun. At least i only use him to farm bp now.
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if you find four people in any area you can screw them up. You can injure four people in the same area faster but you cannot down four people in the same area faster due to the simple fact your power is useless when it comes to getting a second hit. Legion isn't even fun to play against cause it's a cake walk I want killers that actually give me a challenge not a dull power that allows me to loop them for 5 gens due to the lack of downing potential. Legion was slightly broken but they overdid it. Also canceling feral frenzy for the second hit will not work on smart survivors. He is terrible currently.
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This is true..funny how the "counterplay" to killers just keeps getting easier...entity help us-_-;
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Correct me if I am wrong here, but besides that I was also a pre patch Legion main, I have also play other killers (Meyers, Trapper, Huntress, Nurse, Clown mostly) and...
In a 1n1 you had always die against a killer, if he loses not the interested in you.
The thing that safes most of the time survivors for being hooked up in an 1n1, is that their teammates make actual something different as looping.
Aka. gens as example. That doesn't mean that the killer would not get you, if he would go down the tunnel alley... He just has found more important targets with discordance (or similar perks like that raven perk, which name I don't know on english) as example.
The old Legion was a good design, but nothing comes on this world without having its faults and in the case of the Legion was it imo 2 exploits, op addons and a weak basekit in parts.
The exploits and addons has everybody see, even without playing the Legion.
The basekit issuses the Legion had, you have only see if you have play in higher ranks without those op addons.
The pre patch Legion had a really short "action window". Basicly you had a few secounds in which you could use frenzy and use it either for crossing around the map, or actual attacking survivors.
This was not perfect but it had make a ton of fun and for sure more for me, as the Legion today.
Imo, the frenzytime of the Legion of today is to long. So long that it starts getting boring (reminds me a bit on my feelings as I had make a testrun with Franks Mixtape, before I decided to abonden this addon for forever - to pre patch times) and you are to slow in frenzy.
People that run today away for the Legion with just running straight forward, would never be able to do that with the pre patch Legion.
With the pre patch Legion you needed to play that little vaulting-pallet game to survive the frenzy time (was possible by a Legion without addons, not with Franks Mixtape attached... most of the time).
This little vault pallet game has today no reason anymore and I have spoken with some survivor mains about that and they all have found it boring.
Imo, the only people that like the Legion of today a either anyways the "m1 kille typ" and are happy when every killer stays in their comfort zone, or the guys that have hate the Legion.
The killers and survivors who have like the Legion before, were and maybe are also today, the more action oriented type of player.
Imo, its nothing wrong in prefering m1 killers, or the pre patch Legion, but as a game, dbd should try to get everyone on board. Every decision that is different to that is in my eyes unhealthy for the game.
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...Or when survivor has Sprint burst, Lithe or Balance landing that gives them 150% speed which is funny, because Legion is supposed to be the fast and agile one based on their description...
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Killers should have some counter play but legion has so much it is funny. When Legion is in Feral Frenzy every survivor basically gets 0 scratch marks which basically gives them a couple of free perks for example Dance With Me and NM without the downsides so survivors can hide from him easily. Then you can just try to run out FF. Then you have perks that can screw him over. And you can't even use this power to get a damn down.
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I'm not against survivors having a counterplay to killer, but Legion shouldn't struggle that much against 150% speed perks, because he is supposed to be fast and agile killer. If at least he had 130-140% movement speed during FF it wouldn't be that much problem, I would even eat his low duration and 4 sec stun for that speed
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