Why is Adiris the Plague a Killer?
She never killed a single person according to her backstory, and only did what was best for her people. One could argue that she caused more happiness and joy than harm. The Entity has always chosen killers who have murdered before in the past, so why did it choose her? I know that she prayed to a god to answer her, but that is usually not the Entities M.O, instead preferring to take killers from their time. Simply a question, I would appreciate it if somebody pointed out something I missed.
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Think of it like this, because this is how I processed it.
Adiris was deceiving everyone around. While promising to cure everyone, she was spreading more of the illness. While everyone saw her beauty, she was starting to fall into decay. Rather than getting help for herself, she kept going out into public, spreading even more disease. Finally, she led several of her most devoted followers to their deaths.
Whether she was willing or not, her actions are evil. She was so desperate to save others, that she became what she wanted to destroy. And the Entity picked up on this.
That's why I believe she was taken. She was a servant to the gods, and the Entity is godlike in power.
Also, wickedness isn't a prerequisite for Killers. Take Leatherface. He just wanted to protect his family. In fact, the people he killed were done so in self defense. If it wasn't for his cannibalism, I think he might have been let go.
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The Entity is drawn to more than murderous intent, just like it feeds on more than just hope. If you require blood in your headcanon, Adiris was promoting self-mutilation and led her followers into the deep wilderness to either die of starvation/exposure or potentially turn on each other in a wretched, cannibalistic orgy - all because of her devout hubris.
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I don’t think that her actions are evil at all, misguided, yeah, but there was no malevolence in them and is not like there was anything or anyone that could tell her otherwise. In that time, what she was doing was seen as the best that a religious leader could do in a situation like that, and although there was some pride involved in her new station, it is clear that she geniunsly wanted to help her people at any cost, giving that she was willing to cut her own foot to try to help one of her followers:
As she began reciting the Epic of Creation, a woman at the back swooned and collapsed. Adiris rushed to her and noticed the black blisters covering her feet. Without hesitation, Adiris grabbed her sacred blade and swung it at her own foot, severing a toe. Then she offered the bloody part to the Gods, asking them to protect the woman.
She caused pain and misery by unknowingly spreading more of the plague, but she didn’t knew that she was infected herself, not until the very end, when her and her followers realize that they were infected:
But no ritual could save her. In a desperate attempt to appease the Gods, Adiris banished herself from the city. She travelled north with a few followers, venturing through the cold woodlands of Urashtu, until it was no longer possible to walk.
They camped in a damp cave, where Adiris lay in a pool of vomit. Her foot, which had turned black, was so swollen she could not go any further. Her followers and she realised the truth in that cave: they were all infected with the plague.
Probably in that moment, she also realized how much she truly failed in saving her people, so that probably didn’t help her in those last moments. And then, just before her death, the Entity saves her, and that gives her the reason for aid the Entity in killing people: nothing more than gratitude and devotion. We can see in her animations, add-ons and descriptions of her perks that she is sees the survivors as infidels that deserve to be sacrificed by her god, that saved her from death, a god that probably she think is one of the gods that she prayed in the past, probably the god of pestilence:
A bloodstone amulet carved intricately with the effigy of the Babylonian God of Mayhem and Pestilence. Fills the wearer with boundless devotion.
I don’t think that there is any hatred, bloodlust or malevolence in Adiris even when killing people now. She is just fanatical and 100% devoted to the Entity.
I also don’t believe that the Entity needs the potential killer to be a murderer anymore, as I believe that it has grown stronger and smarter with each new killer, and thus now can use more subtle methods to make them do its bidding, that is not going to just torture you until you break if it can convince you to work for it by manipulating you and leaving you with more fresh emotions to collect.
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I seriously doubt she had ill intentions with her followers. She was calling to a god that didn't exist. The entity answered because she was in a desperate state and was extremely gullible. She believes that the entity is her god. She believes that the people she is killing are un-pure. The entity doesn't look for just anyone who kills as a hobby. It looks for what can invoke fear. Because fear is what makes hope sweeter. It needs killers that rip away hope. And scary looking killers make the heart sink faster and harder.
Since we're going off of a majority of the killers killing as a hobby, let me explain the following killers.
Plague: She was un-undoubtedly chosen so that she could serve the entity. She would do anything the entity wanted her to do.
Spirit: An embodiment of rage, the entity just supplied her with beings to take it out on.
Legion: Every grown killer is accepted. Something you see on the news and are disgusted. But disgust forms into fear as you realize that the corruption that once only plagued adults are now corrupting our youthful teens.
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Spirit is a Killer. There is precedent for this.
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Sorry, I never read the spirit backstory. Did she not kill either?
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Nah, she got killed by her Father, who would have been the Entitys first Choice for a Killer. However, because Spirit seeked for revenge, she was choosen by the Entity.
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That's true! However, not a single person was murdered in the priestess backstory, and nobody in the area seemed to have evil in there heart. Her story did not seem to have any sort of wickedness of any kind that would normally summon the Entity.
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I believe that in her lore she prayed for her gods to save her when she was dying of the plague, and when the entity was the one that saved her she had to do the entity's bidding.
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Thank you everybody, I understand what the Entity chose her now.
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the spirit killed no one either...
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I really like this answer, well written and well phrased. Explains a lot
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I think the answer to this one is actually the vice versa or the exact opposite of the answer I quoted regarding the Plague. The plague had actual good, genuine intentions to cure and save her people, however regardless of her intent (and possibly in small part due to a bit of pride) she ended up spreading the Plague because of her rituals and killing her people.
While the Spirit never killed anyone, she was witness to an absolutely horrific and gruesome murder: that of her mother cut into pieces by her own father. Right before she died she was filled with the most intense rage, an inferno of vengeful emotions directed toward her father for what he had done. Had Rin Yamaoka had the physical strength or capability to exact this revenge on her father then and there, she probably would have, but she didn't. So she called upon higher powers, swearing "she would make him pay, in this life or the next. A dark fog slowly veiled her eyes, but it could not subdue her rage. She would not rest--not yet. The darkness whispered, promising blood and revenge. An oath was made"
It even says so in (potentially) Benedict Baker's description of the spirit:
"She inherited incredible fury from her ancestors. The wrath that flows through her veins is her legacy. The terrible pain she suffered set it off. Swift and lethal, The Spirit exacts her revenge endlessly."
In other words, while the gruesome murder of her mother (and eventually her) may have attracted the Entity's attention, it was the absolute fury of emotions that Rin felt that day which made her the perfect candidate. The perfect person who could be manipulated and directed to kill and commit otherwise horrific acts of violence, all she needed was the power to do it. Which is exactly what the entity gave her.
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If you want the best argument for killers not having to have malice to be a killer, look at the Huntress. She's effectively a 6 year old kid in an adult body. She thinks she helps little girls by kidnapping them and chaining them to a wall. She doesn't understand cause and effect, nor the repercussions of her actions.
And yet she was taken by the entity.
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In her final moments her and her followers were praying one last time to the gods. While they died in pools of their own vomit, Adiris kept praying, however she was answered. Just not by the god she thought. The entity took her in and made her the plague, essentially he took her in like a survivor (most the survivors died or gave up on life and that's why they're here. They're the perfect sustenance for the entity). The plague, after being transformed by the plague and the entity, most likely saw this as a new beginning with the entity as her god. It spared her from death so she'll continue to spread the plague and sacrifice people, all for her new God.
The entity never cares if people did anything violent, he preys on more than that. The spirit didn't do anything wrong at all, she's a killer though. So the entity preys upon any negative or undesirable traits and uses those to bring his killers and survivors into his game.
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