Can somebody please explain why Surv’s and Killers can’t get along?

Yeah Peanits said it well. While some members play both sides. Even more prefer one over the other. I personally play killer only, ive played survivor once and probably wont ever play survivor.

I just enjoy being killer and not being dependant on a team and also cant handle the anxiety of my poor game play being the teams downfall.

If i played both some scenarios probably wouldnt feel/seem as unfair as they sometimes do. But thats a choice I personally choose to make.

At the end of the day, it comes down to people being unable to have a civil conversation without attacking one side or the other.

It pretty much boils down to tribalism. If more people would give the other role a solid try you would hardly see it. You see a lot of excuses like it's too easy when they only played the other side at the low ranks where most people still don't know how the game even works. You really shouldn't even be arguing a double sided issue when you've only closely examined one side.

Well i just had one of the most fun matches i've had yet. I killed two survivors and farmed points with the other two by allowing them to stun me, heal each other and allowing them to escape. Great sports and for the first time ever, polite PSN messages saying thank you! That's my good deed for the day!

I don't like this response.

"As part of the Community Manager team I can say we are aware of this issue and it is something we are working on."

Is something you could have said, instead of this weak "Well there's nothing we can do about this.". To me this issue is clearly one that the Community Management team should be working on, but you make it sound like it's not something you care about.

@Madjura

He was answering the question. In games both 2 sides it will always be an "us vs them" scenario. Doesnt mean they arent trying to balance issues on both sides or minimalize it. Because one side will always feel that "this change was made to make things easy for the other side"

And no not everyone feels this way. But as stated most people play one or the other. Not both. Even when playing both sides, some favor another. Ive never touched survivors aside from 1 game. But im also mature enough to not take things to heart when it comes why survivors think xyz is unfair or why killers thibk xyz is unfair. Not everyone can take that stance and thats where alot of the back and forth comes into play on these forums.

"Us vs them"

Get into rank 1 and you'll understand, If you have already been in rank 1 and don't, then I don't know what to tell you.

I play both killer and survivor on PS4. We have a bunch of us (8-10) that play together and it's usually mixed group with killers also playing but on chat to just chill laugh and have fun.

We have "meme nights" where we just send funny memes when lobbies are long, "joke night" the best jokes win but in the end everyone laughs... We have word of the day, we are multi-lingual group so inevitably there's a @&#- that comes out and then everyone tries using it without know what it means (omg I die laughing sometimes)... just stupid fun... Like playing hot potato with an item - one person takes in an item and anytime you pass another survivor they have to take it from you. The goal is to survive without the item.

We range in age from adult to 50+ so there's a lot to talk about. We also range in ranks from 1-20 on both sides (90% of us play both sides) and aren't sweaty try hards. There is also a variety of time zones so someone is usually always on.

You're more than welcome to join us anytime 😊👍 I'm not sure how to send my info without giving the world my Psn... But if you wanna good laugh lemme know and I'll figure something out.

@FireHazard I hear you, and that is very much a typical gamer mentality. Especially in a competitive (read: PvP) game.

And it isn't even just asymmetrical as @Peanits stated, though that does play some factor. Look at Overwatch. There, you have heroes designed to specifically be stronger against other heroes. Shield Tanks are crying for Doomfist to be nerfed (their weakness), Doomfist mains tell the tanks to "git gud." Or you have Supports at the throats of most Reaper or Tracer mains. And so forth.

People always want their side (or hero) to be stronger. Too many gamers don't look at the bigger picture of what's good or healthy for a game. They just want the "W" and damn near feel entitled to it. I saw enough of it in my own game design days.

I played mostly killer here, but always tried to see the survivor side of things. That's why I didn't camp or tunnel unless absolutely needed to get something . . . anything . . . done in a match so I didn't leave completely empty handed.

Playing Survivor during the Bloodhunt because queues are nearly instant for me, and killes are taking 15-20 minutes (so more average BP per hour overall). I've already been tunneled a few times, and camped once. On the camper, I just suicided on first hook. He wouldn't leave the area for whatever reason even when he found no one else around the hook. So, he lost BP on me overall. Right now, he'll wait a while for his next match. I was in my next match about 30 seconds later.

I lose nothing.

(Sidebar: In that match only two gens got done, and they were the two I did. So, I didn't feel bad about leaving the other three randoms behind. I don't know what they were doing, but it sure as hell wasn't generators.)

@Captain_Spaulding Well said. And as I said above, I've been playing survivor for the bloodhunt due to near instant queues for me and therefore more BP per Hour on average.

And so far, I've been enjoying it. People are right, it is a lot less stressful than Killer. I've never been one side over the other as far as game design and such, but as far as play time, I think I am definitely going to be much more of a 50/50 player going forward.

Hang on, this is an interesting claim that I have always been curious about. DO most people, based on your data, mostly stick to one role or the other? I play a mix of both survivor and killer, and I don't consider either one my "main." I have always assumed that most players are the same way, and that survivor or killer mains are outliers.

Am I wrong here?

Or therapy...

This!

I save all the messages I get from survivors on XBL and the majority of them are friendly. There's definitely some salt in there, even one time an accusation of hacking when I played Myers (not my fault you don't pay attention, ma'am), but most of it is "gg" and the like, the occasional "da homie" or "you're the best" when I give someone the hatch.

I don't mind the terms themselves as obviously people can use them to describe themselves, and everyone can have fun poking at obvious stereotypes at times.

But any posts that basically use "you're a <role> main" as an actual arguement should a lot of the time automatically be considered trolling if you ask me. When that's the core message of a post it usually doesn't add anything of value to the conversation other than someone screaming into the void at someone that dares to disagree with them.

I would have to agree that it has to do with only playing one side. I typically play both. One week I pick a survivor to level up, the next week, I pick a killer to level up. More often than not since I'm still basically learning, I play pretty chill and I'm more observant than anything. Being that I play survivor solo, I can't communicate with my team and since I play on console, I don't get many tips after a match so I don't know if I'm being toxic as much as just making dumb mistakes (there are plenty) when killers tunnel me or my team leaves me hooked. For both sides, I honestly just play in a way that maximizes fun. Usually when I play killer, all I concern myself with is rituals and once I get my ritual done, I back off a bit. I've even been known to carry a survivor or 2 to the exit or hatch if they put up a good fight and made things fun. I have yet to run into any "toxic" killers other than those that camp on occasion and usually it turns out that they're new anyway. I actually encounter more survivors that will let me die or piss off the killers than I do killers that are being out of pocket. Maybe I'm too chill though. I dunno.