So, I was about to post in a topic when it was closed. I want to still share what I thought.

Unfortunately, that play other killers advice is the only good option until devs actually care enough to buff the weak killers.

If you keep using legion you are going to have a hard time. That's just how it is right now

Just try practicing more until now. What perks are you using?

Try mindgaming, don't just follow them, be unpredictable. Don't ever respect pallets. When you start hooking people the game usually slows down a lot. Try to down the first survivor as quickly as possible. A match can quickly turn to your favour when you end chases quickly.

Maybe you are already doing these, I'm just trying to give some advice.

Great skill checks are the biggest problem in my opinion. Every great check someone gets, takes off 1.6 seconds from a gen. Every one. If you can land as much as 5 of them, that's 8 seconds saved. Or 1/10 the ENTIRE time it takes to work a gen and 5 great skill checks isn't all that hard to do nor do you get that few per gen.

Gens do not take 80 seconds to finish. They are closer to 65-70 seconds by default if you account for great skill checks, and that is even before toolboxes.

This is why Ruin is so powerful. It is in part the normal skill checks stopping progress for 3 seconds, but by far Ruin removing great skill checks is where the power of Ruin stands. Ruin actually makes gens take its intended 80 seconds to finish. If Ruin lasts just 30 seconds into a game it already saved a LOT of time due to no great skill checks.

Great skill checks shouldn't be a thing anymore. In my opinion, they need to be removed. Or at least be removed once you get past certain ranks as proof you no longer need them.

Agree 100%. I mained Old Freddy, and it was not fun being Old Freddy at red ranks, and I still have this problem on anyone who isn't the "Meta 4." Until the devs finally decide too balance the game towards red ranks, you're gonna struggle on anyone besides the "Meta 4"

Also here is another though about that build: If I was playing survivor against this build, I would never heal because it takes ages and would just focus on doing gens as fast possible. This might be the reason why the gens are going so fast.

Just did some testing.

A generator took 73 seconds while landing 4 great skill checks. Don't know where you're getting the mentality that great skill checks should be removed. If you do simple math you will realize that the impact of great skill checks on generators isn't even close to the equivalent of perks. Running thanatophobia at tier 3 you get 16% decreased gen repair speed which already adds 12.8 seconds to the already 80 second generator time, equating to 92.8 seconds to complete a generator when all the survivors are injured. Even with 2 people injured (8%) equates to 6.4 added seconds onto the generator which is just about enough added time to almost "counter' 4 great skill checks. Now imagine what adding other perks like dying light and even addons like Freddy's swing chains would do to the gen speed.

It continues to go up. At 2 hooks with dying light that's 6% reduced speed (4.8 seconds added) and it continues to go up. Tool boxes are almost required to bring in, at high ranks, if you want to combat against the meta builds that people have been using. All of this takes even longer with the killer being present, (regressing the generator by kicking it), and also taking advantage of Pop Goes the Weasel. This perk is tremendous when it comes to regressing generators by a set 25% for all tiers, which is 20 seconds.

Now let us talk more about the survivor side.

Without going too far into the numbers if you bring a brown tool box in, the generator will be finished in 72.72 seconds. (around a 10% increase in speed going at 1.1 charges/per second((brown toolbox defaults at 80 charges)). This is quickly countered by thanatophobia if you have 2-3 people injured for about 8-12% that's already making the generator take it's default time, minus a little less or adding a little more. This is even easier to achieve with dying light. This still doesn't even cover killer pressure, getting survivors off the gens, how long the gen is regressing for, what survivors are currently doing around the map, i.e healing, saving a hooked survivor, etc etc. All of this adds even more time into how long the generator takes to complete.

Dont go into it trying to get a 4k and stop them completely.

If you enjoy running at high speed and chasing people, do just that. Play like you're a boss or npc in their game, do your best and enjoy it.

You say you want to play and have fun, and do well. You can do both, but certain killers (as some bosses) are just weaker than others. You don't have to play the holy trinity to kill people, you just cant expect a 4k every game with weaker characters.

I cant expect to do well with leatherface every game, but jesus is it fun to play him sometimes. I go in KNOWING I'll likely get 1/2k unless they're outright stupid. But it doesnt stop me from having fun.

When I WANT the 4k, I'll go spirit, billy, hell even wraith/hag work out. But I usually dont play for anything other than random builds to play as "different obstacles" for the other 4.

But back to my main point: dont care about the 4k, the win, the pips, the rank, because none of that matters. What matters is that you enjoy your time playing. If your definition of enjoying playing involves only 4k, then you have to expect to play higher calibur killers.

footnote: git gud isnt just an insult meme. It literally is what it says. It came from when people would go "I need help come help me kill this" and people would literally tell them to "git gud", because as was usually the case, it was someone who tried the fight once, died, and didnt care to actually learn the game. I would argue that 85% of the "git gud"s on here are somewhat justified/correct.

I'm just tired of people assuming that the chase is the only fun part of the game. They don't understand the allure that the whole "hide and seek" aspect has for us.

But then again, I've been a fan of stealth games since the day Thief:The Dark Project hit the shelves, so I'm as OG as they come when it comes to that style of play.

Which is pretty damn ironic given the killer I prefer deletes stealth from the game.

I don't necessarily think that's it, though I will say you aren't wrong. It's this way because the majority of the playerbase is casual and they don't play to red ranks, so let's say about 75 percent is casual and 25 percent addicted just for an example not actual numbers but you could generally agree that's probably close to the case , anyways... If you were to buff killers to the point some of you would consider "balanced" you destroy the game for the people who pop in and out from time to time and don't play all the time due to work, kids , etc... And then they never pick the game back up because they feel so outmatched , moral of the story is not everyone is like us the forum dwellers and if they aren't addicted to it and they start getting wrecked they'll just say the game is trash and then nobody gets to play at a reasonable lobby time , sidenote- me personally I believe killers need more QOL buffs than what some would call a real buff, the devs have done a good job but some minor tweaks are really all they need to even things the way it should be

Thrilling would be good if the cooldown wasn't so long. BBQ doesn't have a cooldown and it gives you more bloodpoints so it's a lot better overall imo.

If you are having trouble finding people in the beginning then corrupt intervention will help you find them quickly since you won't have to check the furthest gens from you.

The main problem with your build is that it basically encourages survivors to do gens fast. imo. They will never self care because it takes ages and do gens instead. I find that it is actually a good thing sometimes when they heal because they don't do gens.

Not viable to you, but I'm making it work for me.

It's only dead because your choose to make it dead.