General Discussions
General Discussions
they buffed stealth killers! :D
- updated certain Killer powers with the Undetectable status effect: The Shape in Tier I of Evil Within, The Pig while in crouch mode, The Wraith while cloaked, The Ghostface while in Night Shroud
(1:1 from the PTB patchnotes)
that means, uppon entering their stealth mode, certain killers will be undetectable by aura reading perks! take that, Object of Obsession! you no longer hardcounter my boy Ghostface!
*happiness noises*
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Wooooooo! Well, i'm a Pig main, so squeeeeeeeeeeeaaalll!!!
I wonder if Insidious is effected?
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Buffing Pig?! Impossible!!!
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LE GASP! This is awesome!
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The real question is if this works with perks like Alert, Breakdown, Dark Sense, or Kindred.
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:D
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*Luke Skywalker voice* That’s Impossible!!
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Applies to a Killer's Stealth Mechanics. When a Killer is Undetectable, the following effects are applied:
- The Killer's Terror Radius is removed.
- The Killer's Red Stain is hidden.
- The Killer will not have their Aura revealed.
- The Killer does not trigger the jump-scare sound effect that plays when starting to move after standing still for a moment.
- The Killer sees the smoky screen visual effect, indicating stealth.
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I'm genuinely excited for this change and I don't say that about many changes.
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Oh yeah, i forgot to be excited for my Wraith.
BING BONG
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Does this apply to Spine Chill? That one perk renders poor Ghost Face almost useless.
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i dont know, you'd have to try that...
i dont think it does though, as the perk technically speaking does not reveal you.
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Im not against it, but ghostface is so damn broken, first the counter to the shroud not always works, and then he needs a cooldown to that stupid mechanic, if not there are lots of noobs hooking and camping from not very far to do the shroud to the guy that goes to help.
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I just hope that the killer can't see the survivor with OoO while they're undetectable.
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survivors should be able to see auras with dark sense and at least have spine chill not be completely worthless.
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I hope we can. Dirty ass OoO users been a pain in the ass since day 1.
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they are called "stealth" killers, because they are supposed to be stealthy.
aura reading kinda ruins that whole concept...
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Vader voice: Search your feelings you know it to be true!
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I personally wouldn't mind Kindred still working.
Besides, they want to incentivize not-camping, right? It would coincide with that pretty well.
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You can moonwalk if you know the map well enough
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Kinda sad about spine chill since it had counter play but oh well
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About time stealth killers had a stealth mechanic.
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Agreed
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just remember people that kindred will reveal you since it trumps all stealth ability's and if it does not currently do so in the ptb i bet you my left kidney that it will be changed to do so.
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Will spine chill work as survivor?
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Not surprised, this is the direction they've been taking for the past year. Buff Killer Stealth, Nerf Survivor Stealth.
It leaves me salty as a Stealth Survivor.
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God damn it dude. Did you have to call it a buff? Now entitled survivors will swarm the forums calling for a Wraith/Pig nerf.
Just keep it down!
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Im happy its a nice buff object literally makes it impossible for stealth killers to do anything. Yet trapper still is plagued by the object users fells bad man. Fun fact btw t1 myers was already immune to object
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If Spine Chill doesn't work on tier 1 Myers then it shouldn't work on the other stealth killers since that's what they're going for.
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i know, though they now added the status effect to it.
that way his TR changed in a way, that tier 1 michael now always has a 0m TR, which is also pretty cool if you ask me :D
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I actually didn't think about mikey and his t radius so then will michal be able to ditch monitor for another perk then?
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Spine Chill still works, which is fine, because the amount of information it gives is limited when compared to straight aura reading.
Kindred trumps all killers' stealth abilities so it should still trump undetectable.
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i do think so.
maybe the new dying light would be a great pick ^^
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I love this change, my boy Wraith is dancing in the moonlight now :)
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hey you can't just throw all ooo users under the bus as dirty ass. I'm just a laurie main
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Peanits already said that Undetectable shouldn't counter Spine Chill, because it isn't an aura reading perk. So stop saying that Spine Chill is worthless now.
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With the buff to Dark sense happening after any gen, No thanks. It would pinpoint a wraith anywhere on the map when a gen is done. Now it won't, making him semi-useful.
Kindred will still work (trumps all stealth abilities) and so will Spine chill + Premonition, since those two are not aura perks.
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Yes but Kindred specifically states that it trumps any of the killer's stealth abilities. I imagine it would still apply unless they reword and change it.
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Yes but Kindred specifically states that it trumps any of the killer's stealth abilities. I imagine it would still apply unless they reword and change it.
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Hey you want to bring object of obsession you take the risk.
It might work like old Freddy where if you're awake you can't see their aura but they can see yours.
Or it might work like Michael.
Personally I'm hoping for old Freddy that's because perks like object of obsession have screwed over stealth for the longest time if you want to bring that perk in then that's fine but then you run the risk of putting yourself in extreme danger if it's a stealth killer.
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Most of these guys aren't going to be still for the majority of the match.
Unless it's scratched mirror he's going to get out of tier 1.
It's a very bad idea for a piggy to spend too much time crouching so you're not going to worry too much about that.
Wraith and Ghostface are probably going to be the only Killers who are going to consistently use their stealth. But considering it's so heavily linked into their power and efficient gameplay they really do need the stealth protection
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This is what I'm looking forward to most. For the Scratched Mirror games specifically, you will literally not need M&A any longer to maintain a Zero Terror Radius. So it most certainly opens up that perk slot!
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