Instead of crying for nerfing strong killers, how about crying for buffing the weak killer?
I'm so tired of people crying to nerf strong killers like spirit... but there are way more killers that needs help like bubba, wraith, legion, etc.
So my fellow survivors, if you escape too easy from these killers, shouldn't you realize that something is wrong with them? Because i don't see people crying for buffing these killers like how they ask for nerfs
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Survivors just want easy win.
Right now spirit and billy are the only killers that can give survivors challenge,
but they still want to take that away
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I'd say people playing spirit wants easy games too. I mostly play survivor but when I play spirit the games are just very very easy. It's almost a guaranteed 4k every match.
If survivors don't complain, then why don't killers also complain that much? This forum is still mostly filled with, gen times are too fast, keys op, survivors op, ds is op posts from killers.
Also, only spirit and billy giving survivors challange is a lie. I lose against all sorts of killers at rank 1. Stop pretending that it's impossible or something. Freddy, hag, huntress, billy, nurse, spirit and maybe even plague are perfectly viable. The others are still viable but you are going to have a hard time.
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That's because both sides only complain or ask for changes on what they deem causes them to lose or frustrates them.
People happy with things generally don't say anything as they had a good experience. It's just human nature.
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And they are crying about only facing these killers in red ranks?.. i don't understand..
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*cries in Legion main*
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Also! There are plenty of crying on BOTH sides of the field here! Don't just be biased!
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Yeah, both sides complain and whine equally. Most people still think that only survivors complain about everything on this forums though.
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Nawww, I see both sides! Even if I seem to see more things like "Did you seriously nerf Insta-heals!" and "Let's talk about pallet stuns" Where they wanted to be able to stun a Killer with a pallet at any point in the animation like they could in 2017!
BUT! There are extremes on both sides! I've seen plenty of Killer whining too! (no examples come to mind at the moment) Which is why i try to keep my own threads (The Legion rework one the most) Civil!
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Cause after all, Without good feedback and discussion, What's the point of even talking here?
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Please remember the devs are on the GAME'S Side! Not Killer or Survivor! There is alot of whining from extremes of both sides here!
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'Both sides are the same' is a survivor-meme. They are not the same or even similar.
The devs are on the side of themselves and their source of revenue, to phrase your point more correctly. The bit you miss out is that this means they are biased towards players who prefer to be survivors, because there are far more of them than there are killers, as is required for a 4v1 game.
Whatever platitudes you want to spout though, no matter how loudly; the record of the devs speaks louder. It's on that basis that I make the comments I post.
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Hi!! I'm a Legion main in red ranks! Wanna keep telling me that I am a Survivor? You know, Killers that blame everything on Survivors really give us bad names! So stop that!
You wanna look at 2016 footage and tell Me survivors are the same they were then? Sorry, but as much as I am a Killer main, I try to see the BIG PICTURE! Not just what is good for Killers. So, sorry friend, i'm not with your opinion!
(also, the "!" is just a habit on these forums of mine. Not really "yelling")
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You do realise if you make up things I say, you're basically ignoring me(well actually worse). What reason do I have to not reciprocate that?
If you have to make stuff up about someone you disagree with, you've probably lost any argument you thought you were having.
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Well you are making things up too! (even though i'm not making up a thing. You said "Survivor meme" so I figured you meant you thought I was a survivor. Logical leap there)
Honestly though, I can already tell you won't listen! It's okay though! We can disagree! Just don't be rude to people and remember. It's a game! Have fun in the fog.
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Besides! WE are off topic here! I'm alfor buffing up the half of the roster that is seen as bad right now! It would add alot more variety to the Killers you see at higher ranks!
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Along with the issue of variety at in the red ranks.... survivors/players say "everyone just plays spirit... or "I just went 3 matches in a row playing against a Billy"
Like if you want variety you have to understand that players are going to play what works against their opponents....
#makelowtierkillersstrong
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Survivors want to do two things in this game: 1)Having easy games 2) Bullying the weak killers.
But they can do neither of them against spirit and nurse. So they abuse the DC mechanic and cry here for nerfs so that they can convince the devs to nerf them.
Nurse got gutted and I'm afraid Spirit or Billy are next.
Sadly we are outnumbered by those survivor mains and there is a high chance for them to win again
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I don't like vagueness. I don't like double-think. I don't like group-think.
It is not hard to understand my position if you are not desperately trying to invent opinions for me that you are more convenient for you.
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It's why Monstrous Shrine has never seen a change whatsoever.
When something's OP, people will use it, it'll show off how OP it is enough times, meaning enough complaints about it will arrive and it'll be addressed.
What happens when something is UP, people won't use it...and that's it, there's no attention for it.
It's also safer to keep something UP than OP.
That said, it doesn't mean i like stuff being UP.
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I call for buffs to weaker killers and nerfs to overpowered killers all at the same time; it's almost as if they aren't mutually exclusive.
Though right now, the only thing I consider OP is live nurse and prayer beads.
Hint: i also see a lot of things related to survivors need nerfing too. :)
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I mean, freddy was trash but now he is a great killer. They do change UP things but it takes a really long time usually.
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Yeah Idk why people are even focused on the stronger killers right now when the majority of the killer roster needs extreme help right now. The priorities seem well out of order.
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That's not the reason why he was changed.
He was changed because they believed he was very much not fun to play as, nor to play against.
And fun isn't the same as bad.
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This is my worry as well.
People are just so unwilling to consider that just maybe they are the issue and need to improve at the game rather than something being "OP". It's simply much easier for them to come to the forums complaining for a nerf and considering the games past it usually has worked so of course they will continue. I play both sides but the killer community is always outnumbered when it comes to voicing opinions when there's so many more people that only play survivor and have no perspective on the issues from the other side.
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Actually a lot of people ask for buffs for some of the weakest killers, just look at how many "Legion Rework" or "Clown Buff when" threads are created each day on these very forums
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Well since cannibal didn't have any ultra rare I made some of my own
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/94704/cannibal-ultra-rare-add-ons-idea#latest
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what in the bias is going on in this thread? Freddy was literally just changed to be a more effective killer and numerous other killers are gaining Undetectable status which completely changes their effectiveness in their games.
One of the reasons I don't play Wraith or Ghostface as much as i'd like to was due to their lack of actually being stealthy in matches, I love the upcoming changes.
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What is this? So many people in the forums cried that Legion Is weak, not our fault that the devs don't want to buff weaker killers. We have been asking for weaker killers to get stronger but they refuse.
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They're crying because they can't easily win against and bully every killer, so the last thing they'd do is ask for stronger killers, if we're talking about those kind of people.
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No one would be upset if they buffed low end killers first then brought down the high tier but now the devs might tear down the top tier then slightly buff the low end killers to where it doesn't matter and they'll call it a job well done. notice with all these changes gen times still aren't changed but hunch got a buff
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Except that same stealth change completely cripples one stealth killer (EW1 Myers)
Overall though I think the only people not asking for weaker killers to be buffed into viability are trolls and people who are too absorbed in the game to be objective.
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The high tier does not need to be brought down though... when you look at the top 3 with upcoming nurse changes they're all about the same power level now...
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They really should buff and rework legion the changes they made to legion absolutely dumpstered them
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That's the whole point of my post!
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I mean spirit is guaranteed next on the chopping block so ehh its temporary
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Last I heard from a community manager that there were no plans for her and in a QA with horvath and Mcote they mentioned Doc and Michael and they wanted to get too the chainsaw killers as well .. I dont see them making the decision to go back to a killer that they invested a lot of resources into and is still quite new being only out a year and not continue to bring the older killers up to date and up to par..... this imo is the same reason legion wont being getting TLC that they desperately need...
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I've been babyraging for Pig buffs since before the EGC. :P
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Sigh...Legion mains...
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This is their problem, they take so long to do changes. Most of the weaker killers don't need reworks just minor number changes on their powers. They could keep changing said numbers every month until they were all decent killers.... easy quick fixes they could still do reworks later but those killers would be more viable now
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For real. From mentioning their plans, to implementing and finally releasing it is literally a 6 month process at least for them. This isn't even talking about a major rework, literally just numbers and small tweaks.
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Yeah, they should definitely speed up the things.. things like tweaking the number shouldn't take few months, even years
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They could easily make trapper bag, windstorm and other addons for different killers base kit, or give small buffs in one patch, I really don't get why they don't do it. It wouldn't take long to implement at all and I don't think anyone won't like the changes.
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Yeah I agree with you, even though they have a quite small developer team but tweaking numbers doesn't require a whole new chapter or mid-chapter, they should have done it weekly
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Exactly! Patches should be released every week or 2 to speed things up. Because at this rate, devs will never be able to truly fix the game
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This made me happier than it should have.
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You are right! There is proof in my 4 page long Rework Legion page over on Feedback! I really want the Devs to see how much support there is for it!
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Welp! I would have replied but you seem to have gotten banned! Sorry! Have fun in the Fog!
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@Rin_is_my_waifu Your comment couldn’t be more biased.
You think playing Spirit is not “easy” ? Lmao
Give me a freaking break.
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