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“Don’t cleanse,” isn’t a hard fast rule

I know the popular strategy is not to cleanse because then plague is just an M1 killer but there are times it makes sense. At end game if two of you can cleanse to go after an unhook it may be safer. Middle of the game if there’s no gens in one area, and it’s a big map, cleansing there may be okay because the plague walking over wastes time and walking back to find people will eat up a chunk of her corrupt timer.

stop yelling at teammates for doing it wrong just because they aren’t doing it your way

Comments

  • Mrwood204
    Mrwood204 Member Posts: 226

    So I'm new(ish) or maybe the better term is casual?

    Either way, what does M1 mean? I've seen it used a few times and have no idea what it is referring too.

    Just to be more of an idiot, do you mean cleanse like a totem, or cleanse like when you wash your face in those fountains?

  • ColonGlock
    ColonGlock Member Posts: 1,224

    Agreed. Sometimes it works out best if you cleanse, especially if she has Thanto.

    You just have to be extra careful when she is glowing red and try to dodge like you would a Huntress.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    M1 means mouse 1 or left click.

    Cleansing in this context is referring to Pools of Devotion.

  • YaiPa
    YaiPa Member Posts: 1,929

    No, cleansing is wrong, period. It gives away your position and make Plague a stronger killer (and with an actual power). Not only these mala, but also there are high chances that you're gonna turn sick instantly (like unhooking a 90% of the times sick survivor).

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    "M1" is referring to the button killers use to attack on PC. (This analogy works on consoles too if you just say "R2" but its typically just referred to as "M1" also. Just like how a console player may say "AFK" even though they are not using a keyboard.

    What the reference to "M1 Killer" means is a killer who doesn't have a power that is effective in a chase. For example Plague has her vomit that causes a build up of damage on a survivor until they become injured (it also prevents healing aside form using a "cleansing fountain" found in the map) so if no one heals then Plagues power becomes useless because everyone is already hurt and her power no longer helps he in the chase, and she only has "M1" to attack.

    Another example would be Wraith. His bell allows him to turn invisible but it doesn't actually cause any harm to the survivors meaning he has to uncloak and use "M1" to hurt them, thus making him a "M1 Killer".

    Hillbilly can use his power (chainsaw) to down survivors and can also use it as a threat (pretend to charge up) to confuse survivors into making a wrong move. He can also use his power to gain lost ground on survivors he is chasing making his power useful and allowing him to harm survivors in a chase without relying only on "M1".

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,999

    I always cleanse at endgame or if they have iridescent seal I don't care

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    This is the kind of thinking/player this topic was reaching out to

  • YaiPa
    YaiPa Member Posts: 1,929

    What's the point of cleansing to do an unhook, if you're gonna turn sick immediately after?

  • YaiPa
    YaiPa Member Posts: 1,929

    At end game if two of you can cleanse to go after an unhook it may be safer.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    I believe they mean so they aren't one hit downed by the most likely camping killer.

  • PistolTimb
    PistolTimb Member Posts: 1,413

    If you're on Lery's, cleanse until the cows come home. If you're on blood lodge... well, sickness is preferable.

  • YaiPa
    YaiPa Member Posts: 1,929

    Bruh, using two ultra rare add-ons boosts the killer af, it's not a consistent way you will play (except stocking them), of course if you're using thana, dying light, infectious, and the aura reading add-on is less efficient not cleansing, but you made an entire build based on the counterplay, it doesn't mean it's stupid not cleansing. As for the apples, strong add-ons, always said, need to be played at critics point tho.

  • Akuma
    Akuma Member Posts: 407

    im also cleansing by this thana/dying light and other fun regression perks. or if i feel like the team isnt the best.im just like ######### off im cleasning dude

    it's basicly the best strategy against plaques and i feel like it's important to finish at least the first 3 gens without cleansing bc if the most pallets are gone it can also be an strategy to get sick from everything and cleanse the sh* out of the plague so thatg the games just gives her the corrupt purge and and every fountain gets reset.

    So everyone is fullife and she only has 1 or 2 corrupted^^

    but not cleaning when she has her power is not the play. some people just continue being sick. Dude it costs you 8 seconds and it lets you live a bit longer with much potential.

    this 8 seconds you safed arent anything against a dead teammate.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    Actually no.

    Always not cleansing only makes sense if you still have a full team and all of you are great at looping. If you are down to 3 or 2 survivors cleansing makes more sense, and if you are the last one alive not cleansing is downright stupid.

    In many situations cleansing is better, especially in many solo games, and when Plague is running the Thana/Dying combo. You mention it's dumb to cleanse and do an infected gen... well duh. That happened because you didn't cleanse before you worked on the gen.

    If you cleanse look for a clean generator.

    There are many contextual situations where it makes more sense to cleanse.

    If you can't see that, you are obviously not as good at Survivor as you think you are.

  • Xerge
    Xerge Member Posts: 928

    Remember to always cleanse as far away as possible from the exit gates.

  • Cardgrey
    Cardgrey Member Posts: 1,454

    O.o sandbag me once and I’ll cleanse asap=p

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    There's no real right answer any more, which is really how she should have been all along. Cleansing should not be universally better, not cleansing shouldn't be either.

    With current repair-slowing builds, not cleansing means you're stacking up Thanatophobia while she stacks up Dying Light. That means she gets stronger and stronger as the game goes on, and you're risking that someone else will cleanse and make everything harder by giving her corrupt against you.

    If someone else cleanses, it's almost always good to cleanse because being loud and broken and having the ranged damage at the same time is almost a guaranteed fast down.

    If you are going to cleanse, try to do it away from any remaining gens, as it forces her to spend time going to get it, which she often doesn't have. That said, if you're down to one gen and she can get between them quickly, cleansing is often pointless as she can infect gens and you'll break long before you get the gen done.

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123
    edited November 2019

    The thing with cleansing is that she actually loses her infective capability, she has to go to the fountain and away from a survivor/objective and you can use it as a quick heal. Making her into Huntress really doesn't give her that much strength when she loses objective pressure.

    TLDR: would you rather your team have no mither, or would you rather play against Huntress?

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    A really good summary, especially the part of your whole team having no mither.

    Also, I think a lot of survivors are not as good at looping as they think they are. They see Puppers, Tofu or whoever looping killers for half the game and think it’s that easy. Then they get chased and go down in 10 seconds

  • prettyf
    prettyf Member Posts: 442

    now people using word "wm1 killers"

    6months ago people asked me whats wm1 killer in this community

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123


    It's not just that but if you "ignore" her power she's essentially Legion with stronger base movespeed. There really isn't a clear answer tbh and it's contextual based on the situation. When I play against Plague I have to go out of my way to stay away from other players and focus on an objective and my dumb team will still 3 gen :/.

  • TeambossFloze
    TeambossFloze Member Posts: 1,260

    Hex Ruin brought me here




    (I thought this was a cleansing totem post sorry)

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    Cleansing is only really an issue if only one person on the team is doing it as she can chain together a bunch of quick downs. But if everybody cleanses around the same time, you essentially half the effectiveness of her vile purge.

  • yobuddd
    yobuddd Member Posts: 2,259

    I always thought it was funny.

    When Myers hits tier 3, everyone hunkers down to wait it out, even if someone’s on the hook.

    But with Plague, everyone gets the Broken status from not cleansing. This is essentially the same effect as tier 3 Exposed, but longer-lasting. The survivors, however, just continue running around living their best lives!

  • justarandy
    justarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Once someone starts cleaning it's gg. The only time it's worth cleansing is when the gates are powered.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    No Mither is a lot better than being infected.

    At least you aren't glowing green and noisy as heck with No Mither.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886
    edited November 2019

    I was always of the opinion that the "No Cleanse" Rule against Plague was actually a conspiracy propaganda spread by Plague Mains who were trying to fool Survivors into playing stupid.