New rules for Ebony Memento Mori, would this make you stop complaining?
All moris are fine except for Ebony, so... Two options:
1° "Ebony Memento Mori lets you kill all survivors by your hand as long as all survivors have been hooked at least once"
2°"Ebony Memento Mori lets you kill by your hand all survivors WHOSE NEXT HOOK WOULD SACRIFICE THEM (kill them) as long as all survivors have been hooked at least once"
This would go against tunneling behaviour and if the Devs could add some extra BP per mori that would incentivate their presence, I do not use them much nowdays cause of the depiping and low BP earnings they give even when done instead of death hook.
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Any new rule for keys?
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As a killer main, I believe keys are fine, but ok, to have everyone happy, how about "keys open the hatch for the user and then it closes again"?
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There is a Trophy/Achievement that would become impossible to earn if this happened. I already feel like it is near impossible to earn as is but that's besides the point.
PS: I also think Keys are fine and have enough counters.
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...and when the killer closed the hatch once it never can be opened again in this trial. Also a hatch closing doesn't trigger EGC anymore, if gens are left.
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Ahm... Ok... Would you like a soda with your order sir? LOL (I adored the amount of things you asked for, hehe)
The hatch already spawns where more gens were fixed than survivors are alive... So... I don't know...
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Yes thanks.
Just some suggestions. I mean it would make me very happy, if keys can't spawn in chests anymore too. Keys and Moris are just way too powerful in my eyes.
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I like both options, Option 1 would be really easy since I tr to do this anyway. If I'm chasing someone I've already hooked and I manage to spot someone I haven't I immediately switch targets; just a habit from using BBQ a lot.
Option 2 is basically the same thing but more fair, if I had to choose I would pick Option 1 as it's flexible but I wouldn't mind Option 2 since I use Devour for my Moris and some of the people I Mori are on death hook anyway.
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The chests thing I'd support, if keys give a free escape they shoud not be easy to get
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Mori on death hook is fine.
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What if keys took like 6 seconds to open the hatch? Enough time for a Killer chasing the survivor to not get screwed over, but also to let the Survivor escape if they found the hatch fair and square while immersed.
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I've said that before and I quote a survivor main "That would just promote tunneling to death hook", LMAO, that's why I posted this option about "after everyone has been hooked at least once".
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I adore how a discussion about Ebony Memento Mori turned into a "Keys too" argument, LMAO
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Can't change one OP thing without the other side getting mad at something that isn't all that OP lol
For the record, I like your #2 change a lot. Way more fair for the survivors.
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The most funny part is that I'm a killer main trying to help survivors against tunneling and who doesn't feel keys are OP. But most important, if moris get nerfed to the ground I'm gonna be really pissed off, they are amazing animations
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They are pretty amazing (when they work properly lol. Pretty sure Hillbilly's is broken and he walks too far forward till he's off the camera).
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That would be a solution, heard that before.
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I fully agree with the first change, it would definitely make Moris balanced.
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I like the mori change.. keys need to be more scarce.. lower the chance for them to be in a chest and either delete the purple key or give it another purpose.. don't need 2 that can both open the hatch.
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We already have 1 key that doesn't open the hatch.
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No, the report button is prepared for those racist SFW teams.
Solo Queue survivors get absolutely pooped on when an Ebony gets used 9 times out of 10. It's not fair as it currently is.
Also, killing someone on their death hook instead of taking them there could be very helpful when dealing with SWF trying to bodyblock for their friend.
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I'm a survivor main and I say leave it alone. Keys, too. Sometimes you lose.
These discussions are like people complaining about Mariano Rivera's cutter. If he threw it right, it was essentially unhittable.
If the Yankees had a lead going into the 9th, they were probably gonna win. But you didn't see other teams crying about imbalance.
They took the loss and moved on. And yes the cutter was a skill, but the principle is the same. You can't mori what you can't catch.
Suck it up, everyone. Can't win 'em all.
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I don't know if option 1 would be enough, but that could just be me being overly skeptical. Option 2 is overkill; simply making it work on death hooks would be enough to warrant it being reduced in rarity a fair bit.
(I also think Ivory Mori is problematic, but that is just me).
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I'll take the 1st option.
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i mean... you get hooked, unhooked, downed at hook, hooked again, Then get downed a 3rd time. Then die. Thats just a normal tunneling killer lol. killing a survivor still requires the same amount of downs to be killed, so i dont see a problem.
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The main issue with Ebonies is you usually get tunneled after an unhook and get mori'd on the spot. That's not even a game at that point.
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The difference is that Mariano Rivera's cutter didn't require less effort to use (I assume) and did not essentially significantly hamper or outright negate whatever momentum the opponent(s) had at that moment for less effort than usual. That is why Moris are an issue (IMO) while, say, Tombstone Piece is okay in my book.
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It was really his only pitch and he is in the hall of fame because he negated whatever momentum the opponents had better than anyone.
I'm just saying that if you have an add on or a perk and you use it to your advantage then good on ya.
So you face a mori. You're probably gonna lose that game. Why waste time getting bent?
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Any ideas? It sounds interesting
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If Ebony Moris HAD to be changed then I would go with the first suggestion you made. It's probably the best way they could change it without making them useless
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The only change needed for keys is they should require 10 second action to open so survivors can't just open the hatch in a middle of a chase.
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ebony mori's should just be gutted to be honest
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