To all the review bombers

@SenzuDuck said:
"Huge Buff"

Lol.

Would you call the exhaustion nerf a huge nerf or a minor nerf?

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
"Huge Buff"

Lol.

Would you call the exhaustion nerf a huge nerf or a minor nerf?

I'd call it the right direction.

It passed the PTB - The people wanted it, so it happened. Just like this up coming "huge" buff. If it passes it'll go in, along with the bloodlust change IF IT PASSES.

It hasn't even passed the PTB and you're already making posts moaning about it.

Just adapting to survivor main behavior.
I wonder if killers will sabotage the PTB just like survivors did, or if they actually give the devs some data.
If they sabotage it too, then the devs could just remove the PTB, since it´s pointless anyway.

@Twix said:
More crying lol, not surprised tbh. I’m mostly a survivor main (I do play killer tho) and I was happy with the Exhaustion changes along with the perk reworks, but now you talk about Survivors getting some kind of buff and in comes the crying once more.

I´m not crying. I just asked a reasonable question. Since the review bombers have damaged the reviews of DbD and got themselfs buffs for it. I´m curious what´s the next step for them. Or if it´s just a "on the fly" thing to upvote or down vote a game depending on the daily mood.

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
Well how would you call the last PTB where survivors just didn´t participate because there was nothing in for them? I´d call that sabotage.

People that aren't interested in beta testing are apparently sabotaging the game.

Kek.

Might wanna reread everything. I said sabotage the PTB. Not the game. There is a difference there.
But then again, i´m talking to you.
LuL

@Twix said:
Tsulan said:

@Twix said:

More crying lol, not surprised tbh. I’m mostly a survivor main (I do play killer tho) and I was happy with the Exhaustion changes along with the perk reworks, but now you talk about Survivors getting some kind of buff and in comes the crying once more.

I´m not crying. I just asked a reasonable question. Since the review bombers have damaged the reviews of DbD and got themselfs buffs for it. I´m curious what´s the next step for them. Or if it´s just a "on the fly" thing to upvote or down vote a game depending on the daily mood.

You’re not asking any question, you’re simply trying to spread more toxicty by poking at said “review bombers” to initiate what I’ll assume is some sort of arguement. Grow up would you? 

Balance works both ways (even though I don’t agree with some of the planned changes), you guys got pallet nerfs, exhaustion nerf, specific killer buffs, amazing perk reworks(for both sides), incoming DS nerf, etc. 

@Tsulan said:
After the last Q&A, are you going to revert the negative reviews, since you get a huge buff? Or will you keep it and pressure the devs for even more buffs?

^ those are questions

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
"Huge Buff"

Lol.

Would you call the exhaustion nerf a huge nerf or a minor nerf?

I'd call it the right direction.

It passed the PTB - The people wanted it, so it happened. Just like this up coming "huge" buff. If it passes it'll go in, along with the bloodlust change IF IT PASSES.

It hasn't even passed the PTB and you're already making posts moaning about it.

Just adapting to survivor main behavior.
I wonder if killers will sabotage the PTB just like survivors did, or if they actually give the devs some data.
If they sabotage it too, then the devs could just remove the PTB, since it´s pointless anyway.

Sabotage the PTB? All the changes went through? Lmfao.
You Mains Vs Mains are delusional sometimes.

Well how would you call the last PTB where survivors just didn´t participate because there was nothing in for them? I´d call that sabotage.

Where did i say i´m a main? Are you sure, you´re not the delusional one?

The same reason I stopped playing the PTB - I like earning blood points and spending them on my characters.

I consider the PTB a huge chance to actually influence the upcoming changes by giving the devs vital information. Maybe they could add the gained BPs to the normal account to give players some further incentives to balance the game.

@Twix said:
Tsulan said:

@Twix said:

Tsulan said:

@Twix said:

More crying lol, not surprised tbh. I’m mostly a survivor main (I do play killer tho) and I was happy with the Exhaustion changes along with the perk reworks, but now you talk about Survivors getting some kind of buff and in comes the crying once more.



I´m not crying. I just asked a reasonable question. Since the review bombers have damaged the reviews of DbD and got themselfs buffs for it. I´m curious what´s the next step for them. Or if it´s just a "on the fly" thing to upvote or down vote a game depending on the daily mood.



You’re not asking any question, you’re simply trying to spread more toxicty by poking at said “review bombers” to initiate what I’ll assume is some sort of arguement. Grow up would you? 

Balance works both ways (even though I don’t agree with some of the planned changes), you guys got pallet nerfs, exhaustion nerf, specific killer buffs, amazing perk reworks(for both sides), incoming DS nerf, etc. 

@Tsulan said:

After the last Q&A, are you going to revert the negative reviews, since you get a huge buff? Or will you keep it and pressure the devs for even more buffs?

^ those are questions

Once again, you disguise it as questions, but it’s just a poor attempt at starting an argument with said “review bombers.” I’ll repeat myself - grow up. 

I´d say we are arguing (on a poor level, because no one is really trying to argument, but hey, it´s better than nothing).

Since you clicked and commented, is it save to assume you are one of the review bombers?

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
"There´s a difference there" means it´s the equivalent of playing the full game?
What??
BTW. How did the perks i recommended you work out for you? Ohh wait, yes i almost forgot. You were only trolling. Nevermind then.

I'm not the one that brought up that players who aren't interested in PTB are sabotaging the game.

Also it's amazing how you bring up those perks up when I clearly stated that I was trying to find 4 survivor perks that all work around the same time that help extend chases. Since you claimed before that killers can't use 4 perks at once during a chase to help end it.

BTW if we're going to bring up everything unrelated to this topic, tell me. Did you feel happier now that down votes are gone? If memory serves you made 2 separate posts because you couldn't handle that you got down voted while arguing about 'Whataboutism'.

Poor you.

Aww man i love to get in touch with one of my fans! You really brought a smile on my face.
Don´t forget to smash that Awesome button on my comment!

You asked me for 4 perks that synergize for survivors at all time, while bringing the killers version of Deja Vu (pre patch) as a useful perk (Fire UP), just to get 4 perks for killers. Then you changed to "4 perks that synergize during a chase". Then you changed again to "4 perks that help prolong the chase", and so on, and so on.
Basically you changed the subject each time i presented you 4 survivor perks that synergize perfectly. Unlike killers which really struggle to get 4 perks that synergize (that´s why you had to bring in Fire UP)

Now to the unrelated topic of the "whataboutism". I expressed an unpopular opinion and got a ton of downvotes from survivor mains. Which thought this forum works like Reddit, where people can burry a comment under downvotes, so no one can see that opinion. Funny how a survivor main commented on the survivor sub forum about how bad it is, that survivors can´t even comment on their own forum without getting toxic comments. While failing to present ANY toxic comments from others.

Thx again for all the attention. You just made my day, by showing me, that you really care about what i write.
Sadly i can´t remember any of your threads. (appart from the 1 mentioned above).

Have a glorious day!

@Twix said:
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@Twix said:

Tsulan said:

@Twix said:

Tsulan said:

@Twix said: Tsulan said:

@Twix said:    More crying lol, not surprised tbh. I’m mostly a survivor main (I do play killer tho) and I was happy with the Exhaustion changes along with the perk reworks, but now you talk about Survivors getting some kind of buff and in comes the crying once more.        I´m not crying. I just asked a reasonable question. Since the review bombers have damaged the reviews of DbD and got themselfs buffs for it. I´m curious what´s the next step for them. Or if it´s just a "on the fly" thing to upvote or down vote a game depending on the daily mood.        You’re not asking any question, you’re simply trying to spread more toxicty by poking at said “review bombers” to initiate what I’ll assume is some sort of arguement. Grow up would you?     Balance works both ways (even though I don’t agree with some of the planned changes), you guys got pallet nerfs, exhaustion nerf, specific killer buffs, amazing perk reworks(for both sides), incoming DS nerf, etc.     @Tsulan said:

After the last Q&A, are you going to revert the negative reviews, since you get a huge buff? Or will you keep it and pressure the devs for even more buffs? ^ those are questions

Once again, you disguise it as questions, but it’s just a poor attempt at starting an argument with said “review bombers.” I’ll repeat myself - grow up. 



I´d say we are arguing (on a poor level, because no one is really trying to argument, but hey, it´s better than nothing).

Since you clicked and commented, is it save to assume you are one of the review bombers?



Uh, I literally said I agreed with the exhaustion changes and perk reworks?...

It’s either 1) too late for you, in which case you should go sleep or 2) you need glasses.

There’s a difference between arguing and suggesting that you should grow up and not attempt to rile up “review bombers.” See, I’m trying to do good and stop spreading toxicity as an ambassador for both Survivor/Killer play, but you on the other hand just want to start arguments. 

Ex: I agree with some killer buff and survivors nerfs, just like I agree with some survivor buffs and killer nerfs. 50/50 

I just love a good argument. I even have several comments on my profile from people that were surprised how nice i could argue. I don´t insult or attack anyone on a personal level. (maybe you noticed how i got attacked).

I didn´t mention the exhausion changes, since i didn´t found that relevant to the current discussion.

I´m really just trying to get into the mind of those review bombers to find out how they tick. What´s their motivation (obviously reverting the changes, but maybe there´s more), and what their plans are. Since i don´t use the steam forum anymore and i don´t want to ask every review bomber personally, i opened this thread.

I play both survivor and killer on rank 1. I find playing survivor incredible relaxing, where i can play and drink at the same time. Have a good laugh if i play in SWF, and enjoy myself. At the same time, killer is really stressful. I feel under constant pressure, because gens pop so fast while i just can´t reach that survivor who is supposed to be slower than me.

For me it feels like the roles are reversed. Killers job should be relaxing and survivor should be under constant pressure. Or at least that´s the impression i got from every horror movie ever.

Well, the review bombs started, because of the exhaustion nerf, so while it might not be relevant to the “questions” you’re asking, it is relevant to the reason as to why DbD got review bombed. 

Anyway, it’s choice 1 for me, so I’ll leave you to your argument/discussion with those review bombers you want to talk to, good luck and I hope no one gets upset.

Since no one of the review bombers answered yet (maybe they don´t visit the forum). What do you think about the review bombs and the last Q&A video?

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
You asked me for 4 perks that synergize for survivors at all time, while bringing the killers version of Deja Vu (pre patch) as a useful perk (Fire UP), just to get 4 perks for killers. Then you changed to "4 perks that synergize during a chase". Then you changed again to "4 perks that help prolong the chase", and so on, and so on.

My words exactly. Name 4 perks that do the same for survivors. Not synergies well with each other.

Killers want to end chases quickly. The survivor equivalent of that is to extend them. Since survivors love to be chased as evident by how many killers are complaining that they can't catch that one guy that plays so perfectly.

It's also completely disingenuous to dismiss Fire Up since it's a perk that helps with chases. It doesn't matter how little it actually benefits you as killer, it still helps you consistently throughout the match.

Inbefore Thanaphobia can't be used with other generator stall perks to synergies a build with them (Like Dying Light, Overcharge, Ruin).

You get the idea.

Basically you changed the subject each time i presented you 4 survivor perks that synergize perfectly. Unlike killers which really struggle to get 4 perks that synergize (that´s why you had to bring in Fire UP)

I brought in Fire Up because it helps in chases. Lol ######### are you on?

Now to the unrelated topic of the "whataboutism". I expressed an unpopular opinion and got a ton of downvotes from survivor mains. Which thought this forum works like Reddit, where people can burry a comment under downvotes, so no one can see that opinion. Funny how a survivor main commented on the survivor sub forum about how bad it is, that survivors can´t even comment on their own forum without getting toxic comments. While failing to present ANY toxic comments from others.

Because everyone who disagree with you are survivor mains. Of [BAD WORD] course. Stop with the killer versus survivor mentality.

Jesus Christ the victim complex.

Thx again for all the attention. You just made my day, by showing me, that you really care about what i write.
Sadly i can´t remember any of your threads. (appart from the 1 mentioned above).

Mostly because I don't make threads kek.

Oh sorry, i really thought you never actually played killer because you considered Fire Up a uselful perk.
Would you consider using DH, Lithe and Adrenaline in the same build?
I already demonstrated that i play both, since i brought up useful builds for both survivors and killers. Where am i victimizing or saying that i´m a main?

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
Oh sorry, i really thought you never actually played killer because you considered Fire Up a uselful perk.
Would you consider using DH, Lithe and Adrenaline in the same build?

Before the exhaustion nerf, I would definitely say you would have had a good build.

Now I'm not so sure... Maybe replace one of them with something else that takes longer for the killer to get you.

I already demonstrated that i play both, since i brought up useful builds for both survivors and killers. Where am i victimizing or saying that i´m a main?

You just said you were down voted by survivor mains. That alone brings up the victim complex.

Oh i also got downvoted in a different thread from killer mains.
Now what?

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
Oh i also got downvoted in a different thread from killer mains.
Now what?

Oh, did you really?

I feel so much relief that you know who mains who over something as simple as the down vote option.

Not only a down vote button. But people claiming to be a killer or survivor main.
You know, those people that try to make their point more valid by saying in the first phrase "i´m a sandwich main"

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
Not only a down vote button. But people claiming to be a killer or survivor main.
You know, those people that try to make their point more valid by saying in the first phrase "i´m a sandwich main"

Oh god, I [BAD WORD] hate those people sometimes.

It's like a Tumblr argument. As a Non-Genetic, you're wrong.

I mean I'm guilty of the same ######### sometimes, but I don't go parading my opinion as fact whenever it happens. It's mostly just to bring discussion into the table.

Good!
We finally agree!
Isn´t it nice to have something in common?

@Mc_Harty said:

@Tsulan said:
Good!
We finally agree!
Isn´t it nice to have something in common?

We're BFFs now

Yeah man!

@EqMonkVeeshan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
"Huge Buff"

Lol.

Would you call the exhaustion nerf a huge nerf or a minor nerf?

I'd call it the right direction.

It passed the PTB - The people wanted it, so it happened. Just like this up coming "huge" buff. If it passes it'll go in, along with the bloodlust change IF IT PASSES.

It hasn't even passed the PTB and you're already making posts moaning about it.

did they release the stats on the survey they did for the exhaustion changes on said PTB that it passed? I personally never saw a survey on it. I honestly think a lot of the uproar over the exhaustion changes is that they didn't bother to do a survey, or get the survey out to the people and take the community's thoughts on the changes into account. rightfully so even the killer side of the community would be kinda pissed about a change that they had no opportunity to critique or give feedback on. but i suspect we will see the anger from them when bloodlust changes come in and with it the infinite loops return to glory. all with out the killers getting that very chance to feedback and critique. see I am a survivor main and I feel the exhaustion changes was great, but it shouldn't have effected some perks like dead hard. and I would have gladly gave feedback to that very aspect in a survey.

I think they didn´t do a survey, because most of the survivors didn´t bother to even play the PTB. Which was a shame, cause it could have changed some numbers on the actual nerf.

@Sinner said:

@Tsulan said:

@EqMonkVeeshan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
"Huge Buff"

Lol.

Would you call the exhaustion nerf a huge nerf or a minor nerf?

I'd call it the right direction.

It passed the PTB - The people wanted it, so it happened. Just like this up coming "huge" buff. If it passes it'll go in, along with the bloodlust change IF IT PASSES.

It hasn't even passed the PTB and you're already making posts moaning about it.

did they release the stats on the survey they did for the exhaustion changes on said PTB that it passed? I personally never saw a survey on it. I honestly think a lot of the uproar over the exhaustion changes is that they didn't bother to do a survey, or get the survey out to the people and take the community's thoughts on the changes into account. rightfully so even the killer side of the community would be kinda pissed about a change that they had no opportunity to critique or give feedback on. but i suspect we will see the anger from them when bloodlust changes come in and with it the infinite loops return to glory. all with out the killers getting that very chance to feedback and critique. see I am a survivor main and I feel the exhaustion changes was great, but it shouldn't have effected some perks like dead hard. and I would have gladly gave feedback to that very aspect in a survey.

I think they didn´t do a survey, because most of the survivors didn´t bother to even play the PTB. Which was a shame, cause it could have changed some numbers on the actual nerf.

Well survivors probably don't read the forums so much since it's only noob killers here whining all day.

Devs even mentioned it on the dev stream. Or do only noob killers watch dev streams?