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About reporting camping and tunneling
Why do survivors insist on saying they will report a killer for camping and tunneling? Like, can a killer report a survivor if he uses the Ironworks of Misery loop on every chase? In my opinion both things can be annoying as hell, but judging by my experience it seems that after a game you never see a killer saying they will report a survivor for abusing a ridiculous loop, but you've all probably read how a survivor is threatning to report a killer for camping and tunneling.
Judging by this killers probably get reported often, my question is if reporting has any real consequences. Do you know of anyone who got banned after being reported several times by salty survivors?
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I mean it's not reportable, but some players are just unlucky and annoyed after some time
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I would say the difference between looping and tunneling/camping is that looping does NOT stop the Killer from playing the game. They can still chase, eventually catch up, mindgame, or switch to another survivor. Meanwhile, a Survivor being tunneled/camped has no choice but to sit on hook doing literally nothing, or worse, get carpal tunnel syndrome on that stupid button mashing phase.
Also, what else are Survivors supposed to do, stand still and let the killer hit them? of course they're going to loop, that's not "abusive", come on...
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What is a killer supposed to do if he checks on gens and finds nobody on them, then returns to the hook and the hook timer is about to expire and notices another survivor is coming for the save? Serious question, not from a killer perspective or survivor perspective, but from a strategic perspective.
For example; I admit that looping the killer around the Ironworks of Misery is a good strategy; he will either waste a lot of time trying to catch you or leave you alone so you can return to doing gens.
However I think you won't admit that there are some broken loops in this game, but I do.
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Comparing looping with tunneling/camping makes me really sad, and just shows what kind of wrong understandings you have.Looping isnt restricting any gameplay, while the other two issues restrict any kind of gameplay. The problem here is that the Devs doesnt consider tunneling/camping as an issue thats needs to be solved, thus its one of the worst issues the game has since beginning. Thats just frustrating. Looping 3times isnt anything to compare with.
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Does this mean that you think camping and tunneling are not good strategies under any circumstances and that camping and tunneling are absolutely wrong no matter what (from a moral/ethical perspective)?
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I had a game just a few minutes ago where someone camped the hook and their aura was revealed because of that one perk. Both my other teammates left and went down trying to save the hooked person while i did 3 entire gens and then opened the exit gate, saving a guy in the process. If my teammates weren't dumb then he would have only got one kill, which sure sucks for that guy but the killer is going to realize they're only going to get one kill a game if they keep doing it. Otherwise its an easy game, i WELCOME campers. If you're talking about camping durning the end game or "tunneling" as in downing the person that just got unhooked behind your back then hell nah lol. I mean like that guy said with looping, why would i just let myself die? As a killer why would i just let you live?
Also durning the end game i t bagged at the exit gate (because he was camping) let him down me just so i could wiggle free and escape and he ended up DCing right after i left. Then i got hate mail from the guy on the nearest hook for not unhooking him in front of the killer, likely sacrificing myself in the process so he could have a chance at living after doing nothing the whole game because i was playing "like a solo player in a team game" It wouldn't have even matter since he DCd anyway!
I swear to god no matter what i can't get along with survivors lol
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My friend pulled a survivor out of a locker during a chase (the survivor had not been hooked, yet) and they immediately DC'd, then sent a message saying they were reporting him for tunneling and he was gonna be banned from the game because "tunneling is cheating stop cheating."
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Just ignore it. If you know it has zero affect on you move on.
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From a Strategic perspective he should go after the Survivor that was just recently unhooked, as they're 1 hit downed. Even with Borrowed Time it's still worth it so they're forced to Mend. If they're downed, they should avoid them because they may have DS, and chase the farmer. Although tbh, and this is just my opinion, I wouldn't consider that tunneling. Tunneling is when you focus on a single survivor even when it's not strategic or advantageous in anyway: Just because they're a Dwight, or they teabagged, or they looped you forever and you need to soothe your wounded ego, etc...
And btw when I say "you" I'm not saying you specifically Xerge, just some hypothetical killer we all know exists, you know?
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A killer can be reported for that yes, but there the team won't any actions taken unless there were exploits involved or bug abuse. No matter the amount of reports.
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absolutely, its lazy and requires no skill. its pretty much exploiting bad game design as the game was designed for u to die in 3 hooks not 1 (assuming ur not left on the hook)
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Agreed
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Assuming you're left on the hook you can die on your first or second hook, so I don't think it's accurate to say that the game was designed for you to die in three hooks. If you happen to get hooked and you are about to reach the second stage of the sacrifice because your team isn't going to the rescue then I think the killer can take advantage of that situation from a strategic perspective. And from a moral/ethical perspective I don't think it's good to sabotage yourself when playing a pvp game if you want to win the game.
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the fact that its “out of your hands” is stupid. camping denys the survivors game in a malicious way. and no where did i say it was against game rules stop high roading
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What about griefing though? It says under Temp Bans (idc if its temporary, it's still some sort of ban) "Targeting specific users repeatedly in order to ruin their game experience" I, personally, would say this CAN fall under camping/tunneling (can doesn't mean always should though).
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If I'm being facecamping/hardcore proxy camped until death, that is ruining my game experience. Idk what BHVR thinks but I cannot play the game and have any type of fun by sitting on hook until I die.
So even though I don't because it's 'not allowed' I really have the urge to report when stuff like that happens.
There are some cases though that are not actually camping. For example:
If a teammate tries to come for the save but the killer notices, they don't have to let the person save. Or if the killer saw scratch marks nearby after hooking me, that's fine if they wanna look around.
But this is just one example of many.
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The world isn't black and white. If I hook someone and then notice the other survivors swarming like bees, in going to circle the hook and keep them at bay, which is a legit reason to camp.
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Posted the same twice, sorry. My bad.
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I think what they mean by that is that a player can get banned for tunneling you to death repeatedly in different matches with the only porpuse of being annoying to you and not because he is trying to win, pip or black pip. It's some kind of harassment.
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I got camped in the basement as many players have. I just ended up letting it go and died after struggling. First hook too. No big deal. If you want to camp/tunnel and that's your play style, go ahead. Just know that for players that do this, other players will eventually not want to play with or against you.
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What I'm saying is that the conditional is clear; "in order to ruin their game experience", not everyone who camps or tunnels you has the intention of ruining your experience, even if being camped or tunneled can be annoying. There are many things that can be annoying in this game, but that's not an indication that they are doing it in order to ruin your experience.
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