My take on the Q&A 3.

@se05239 said:
Most of these changes feel like emergency killer nerfing to help calm down the survivor masses who's bombarding the game with negative reviews after their minuscule exhaustion "nerf".

Devs went full Freddy even tho they said they will never go full Freddy again.

Exhaustion nerf had barely any effect in r1 as gens still get done in 5 mins.

@SovererignKing said:
Hillbilly420 said:

@Runiver said:

 @Tsulan said:

   @Runiver said:

     @ChesterTheMolester said:

    Mister_Holdout said:

      I think your analysis is spot on Runiver.

      My question is when are the devs going to do something about these ridiculous loops survivors still have?

      Seems to me like you should address these problems first before you go suggesting what the devs just did. Or, at the very least, handle it all at one time.

      

      Mclean mentioned on Twitter that many loops will like Fractured Cowshed will be removed/nerfed.

      If that is the case i will accept the BL nerf.

   



    Yes, if they actually remove some windows "hard" loops (the ones you cannot counter because survivors consistently have vision on you, while the vault spot remains super strong), then BL can easily go away for sure, as it's not a very healthy mecanic when it comes to pallets, especially with Bloodlust 3.

  Bloodlust 3 speed just need to go at some point as it's just a cheese and a rather toxic way to lock a survivor on a juking spot with 0 ways for him to get off of it.

 



  My prediction:

  

* more nurse player
* gens get done as fast in solo as they do in swf
* killers will struggle to rank up because of how short the games are
* long survivor ques for october (seems to be a tradition)

Possibly. Might be the case if all the changes they put on the PTB go live even if people on the forums do not agree with it, similarly to the exhaustion change. I doubt the majority was for that change, and wanted more of a sprint burst change instead.

I doubt it will be that hard to rank up, but as usual, it won't be due to the killer's skill, but rather to the survivor's stupidity and ability to make a shitload of mistakes.

@Tsulan said:

@Hillbilly420 said:

@Tsulan said:

@SovererignKing said:

se05239 said:

Most of these changes feel like emergency killer nerfing to help calm down the survivor masses who's bombarding the game with negative reviews after their minuscule exhaustion "nerf".

It basically is. It’s another knee jerk reaction by the developers. 

The problem is that the developers are trying to balance by taking one step forward with Killers, then one step forward with Survivors. Problem is that Survivors are ALREADY 2-3 steps ahead of Killers. The developers need to leave the Survivors alone and focus on the Killers. 

Map Balance for Killers first, then Bloodlust. Ect. 

But survivors don´t believe that. They think killers are OP (especially Freddy) and that even the slightest nerf is unjustified. Then they review bomb and make fun of killers that complain about serious issues.

Survivor mains and fake Survivor mains (you know, "those" guys who claim they play Survivor/Killer equally but always say "Well, I think Freddy was OP and needed the nerfs." Or "Blood Lodge doesn't have that many pallets. Killers need to git gud." One of those guys) are some stupidest people I have ever come across in any community. The mental gymnastics these guys go through to somehow convince themselves that running around a piece of level geometry is difficult is astonishing.

Running in circles clearly requires a lot of skill. I wonder what would happen if survivors and killers had suddenly the same hitbox. Probably review armageddon.

I'd love to see this, honestly. Would be so much smoother to run loops.

And no more fat shaming.

A thinner hitbox would benefit both sides. No more fat shame spots and it's harder to body block Survivors. it's win/win.

Smaller hit boxes for Killers : Looping goes away, Killers can’t body block the basement to hold the game hostage and basement saves aren’t so stupidly hard to do (Even as a Killer, I think the basement is too much atm), Nerf Killer aura reading perks (We don’t need them if Looping is gone, if we can’t find Survivors that’s our fault, not the Survivors fault if they are good at hiding.) 

Lastly : Give Killers a REAL incentive to leave the hook. I stick with Tru3Ta1ent’s idea of a debuff for every fresh hook. -10% to repair speed. I want to like the idea of secondary objectives for Survivors to slow the game down, but this doesn’t help the issue of Killers camping folks out. Tru3Ta1ent’s debuff idea kills two birds with one stone. Slows the game down AND reduces the likelihood of camping and tunneling. 

I like the idea of smaller hit boxes for killers. Body blocking shouldn´t be a thing. Neither for survivors.
BBQ was already nerfed tho.
If you want killers to stop camping, make DH a normal perk or even better: make it part of the basekit. Since Kindred is on the table, that would be a equally powerful thing for killers.

KillingInstinct said:

@deadwolfwalking said:
"We know SWF is unbalaned. We're gonna fix it. We're gonna balance SWF by making solo play just as effective. See? We need 4 ppl happy to play and one miserable bastard to host em. We ******* hate killers " - DBD dev team 2018

Omg that is so true! I can't even remember them saying ''We'll balance SWF.'' since it's been so long ago hahaha

thesuicidefox said:

@Hillbilly420 said:
Just to add onto this: if they go ahead with this change then basement parties are #########. All it takes is one guy to Kobe, you're not allowed to hit them, and they can free the rest of the hooked Survivors.

LOL no. They aren't talking about giving survivors seconds of invincibility. They are talking about giving them invincibility UNTIL THEY HAVE CONTROL OF THEIR CHARACTER. That means you can't hit them until they can act. Literally only applies the unhook/kobe animation itself, as currently you can hit them during that animation (when they have no control) and it counts. Now they have a MOMENT to dodge a hit. If you are standing right there and just wait for the animation to finish you will be able to hit them down. Just wait until you see them move after the animation is finished SMH.

@KillingInstinct said:
imo survivors don't deserve any buffs for a few patches since they review bombed the game and killers still aren't the power role. Except at rank 21. Killers are always power role there

They aren't buffs as much as they are bug fixes and QoL changes. Pallet drops are borked right now because sometimes it does the long animation which means you get hit. You guys act like there are no issues playing survivor when there definitely are. I can tell who are the killer mains here. You basically want them to just totally ignore any problems survivors have and only focus on killers because that's all that is important to you.

This place gives me cancer.

thesuicidefox said:

@Tsulan said:
The invincibility in combination with the hit registration and SB will be the like the old BT.

I don't have any problems as survivor. Maybe explain your problems. 
But remember, killers have been nerfed hard for 2 years. Survivors received now a minor nerf, and suddenly survivor is unplayable.

I play both and on rank 1. If that matters to you.

No it won't stop talking out your ass. The survivor has a chance to do something after being unhooked. If you are right there you can still easily hit them when they start moving, there aren't that many paths available to get away from a hook like that.

Problems with survivors: drop pallet and get a stun but still get hit, slow vaulting when it should be 100% fast vaults, being locked to the unhook animation making it impossible to stop and avoid a hit if the killer comes, just to name a few. Survivors do indeed have problems, most of them bugs from weird animations.

Also I am rank 1 for both too. If you don't see problems with survivor then you are just blind. You people act like the devs should just never do anything positive for survivors. Or you act like any little thing they do to make survivors better is automatically a huge killer nerf that will totally ruin killer. No, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Polishing up a few animations won't suddenly make killer unplayable.