Exploiting

Calling an ad-on an exploit then comparing it to a legit bug is kinda petty and silly, don't you think?

@Master said:
Just occured a survivor timing his instaheal such that he was fully healed after a hit, effectively exploiting the insta heal.
Guess thats fine, but when it comes to tinkerer 2, the world is ending

Btw, that insta heal exploit has been a thing for ages now, I bet that tinkerer 2 will be fixed in no time

@FrenziedRoach said:
Calling an ad-on an exploit then comparing it to a legit bug is kinda petty and silly, don't you think?

Using Insta-heal as you get downed is an exploit. Confirmed by devs, and on its way to the fix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0P39oh3AAA
For anyone wondering about how it looks in game.
Same for Tinkerer 2, which is a bug.

Could be a poorly timed heal, they might not have meant to do it, however you don't see the healing thing often and it's been around for ages yet survivors haven't really been abusing it I've had it happen once a few months back.

But hey, tinkerer is being exploited up the booty right now. They'll both get fixed soon.

@Master said:

@SenzuDuck said:
Could be a poorly timed heal, they might not have meant to do it, however you don't see the healing thing often and it's been around for ages yet survivors haven't really been abusing it I've had it happen once a few months back.

But hey, tinkerer is being exploited up the booty right now. They'll both get fixed soon.

Sure, the survivor accidentially stops in the middle of the chase and waits till the killer is close enough for the hit just to pop the insta geal, "poorly timed heal".

No idea how you can defend this behaviour, but I guess you are someone of the abusers

Yes, lets assume I exploit because I gave an alternative option instead of accusing immediately.

Never use insta heals tbh they aren't fun to me.
I've had plenty of survivor stop mid chase to insta heal - coincidences happen.

@SenzuDuck said:

But hey, tinkerer is being exploited up the booty right now. They'll both get fixed soon.

Are you sure? I played something between 30 and 40 matches as survivor since the patch and i never had a permanent tinkerer killer. Just the normal version + billy out of nowhere jumpscare. Who recovered his terror radius after a few seconds.

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

But hey, tinkerer is being exploited up the booty right now. They'll both get fixed soon.

Are you sure? I played something between 30 and 40 matches as survivor since the patch and i never had a permanent tinkerer killer. Just the normal version + billy out of nowhere jumpscare. Who recovered his terror radius after a few seconds.

I haven't experienced it much - but I have. I'll give you the reason I don't see it much. I'm rank 1 survivor so I feel mostly people have ranked their killers or aren't willing to spend their points on a killer they don't play at rank one to hopefully get tinkerer 2.

I have however watched a lot of streams with it happening and I've also had people come into my stream and tell me they've just played a match against a killer with no heartbeat, etc.

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
Dead by Daylight > Bug Reports - PC > Topic Details
Is where it was posted.
Not the general forum at all.

Stop trying to make out your trolling wasn't deserved of a ban.

Also - curious as to your opinion on facecamping, seeing as your own evidence to dispute what it is directly contradicts what you think it is.

The thread was moved AFTER i made my post.
Please don´t make stuff up. Yes, now it´s on the bug report forum. But it wasn´t when i made my post. Maybe 1 mod moved it and another mod banned. Since i rarely visit the bug report forum anyway. Also i´m not really a troll, or have you seen me trolling new players or insult people?

Care to specify the face camping thing? My opinion is, that facecamping (survivors being unable to unhook, because the "press M1 to unhook" promt didn´t appear) has been removed. Yes, it´s still possible to stand next to the hook, but survivors can still unhook.
My rant is basically because i´ve seen streamers accuse Freddy of being a facecamper. (duh)

You said "Here is how the devs describe camping" and they literally describe camping facecamping as being 1m within the hook, hard camping as 1-8m of the hook etc etc.

I specify facecamping as you know face to face with the killer until i'm dead FACECAMPING. Blocking the hook was a separate issue - they're still in the same position.

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
Dead by Daylight > Bug Reports - PC > Topic Details
Is where it was posted.
Not the general forum at all.

Stop trying to make out your trolling wasn't deserved of a ban.

Also - curious as to your opinion on facecamping, seeing as your own evidence to dispute what it is directly contradicts what you think it is.

The thread was moved AFTER i made my post.
Please don´t make stuff up. Yes, now it´s on the bug report forum. But it wasn´t when i made my post. Maybe 1 mod moved it and another mod banned. Since i rarely visit the bug report forum anyway. Also i´m not really a troll, or have you seen me trolling new players or insult people?

Care to specify the face camping thing? My opinion is, that facecamping (survivors being unable to unhook, because the "press M1 to unhook" promt didn´t appear) has been removed. Yes, it´s still possible to stand next to the hook, but survivors can still unhook.
My rant is basically because i´ve seen streamers accuse Freddy of being a facecamper. (duh)

You said "Here is how the devs describe camping" and they literally describe camping facecamping as being 1m within the hook, hard camping as 1-8m of the hook etc etc.

I specify facecamping as you know face to face with the killer until i'm dead FACECAMPING. Blocking the hook was a separate issue - they're still in the same position.

But they explained in that very video, that it was previously impossible to unhook and even showed what we have now. The possibility to unhook from every angle.

Face camping WAS blocking the hook as killer. Making it impossible for other survivors to unhook. Now it is possible. I´ve played with SWF groups, where someone claimed to be face camped, while the killer was 10 meters away. The name is being missused. Yes, a killer still can stand in the face of the survivor, but other survivors can unhook (not the wisest choice if the killer is Leatherface, but at least they have the possibility).

He literally says "Facecamping is where you're within 1m of the hook looking at the survivor". Just because they explained you can now unhook from any side doesn't take away from the fact they're in the same position.

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
Dead by Daylight > Bug Reports - PC > Topic Details
Is where it was posted.
Not the general forum at all.

Stop trying to make out your trolling wasn't deserved of a ban.

Also - curious as to your opinion on facecamping, seeing as your own evidence to dispute what it is directly contradicts what you think it is.

The thread was moved AFTER i made my post.
Please don´t make stuff up. Yes, now it´s on the bug report forum. But it wasn´t when i made my post. Maybe 1 mod moved it and another mod banned. Since i rarely visit the bug report forum anyway. Also i´m not really a troll, or have you seen me trolling new players or insult people?

Care to specify the face camping thing? My opinion is, that facecamping (survivors being unable to unhook, because the "press M1 to unhook" promt didn´t appear) has been removed. Yes, it´s still possible to stand next to the hook, but survivors can still unhook.
My rant is basically because i´ve seen streamers accuse Freddy of being a facecamper. (duh)

You said "Here is how the devs describe camping" and they literally describe camping facecamping as being 1m within the hook, hard camping as 1-8m of the hook etc etc.

I specify facecamping as you know face to face with the killer until i'm dead FACECAMPING. Blocking the hook was a separate issue - they're still in the same position.

But they explained in that very video, that it was previously impossible to unhook and even showed what we have now. The possibility to unhook from every angle.

Face camping WAS blocking the hook as killer. Making it impossible for other survivors to unhook. Now it is possible. I´ve played with SWF groups, where someone claimed to be face camped, while the killer was 10 meters away. The name is being missused. Yes, a killer still can stand in the face of the survivor, but other survivors can unhook (not the wisest choice if the killer is Leatherface, but at least they have the possibility).

He literally says "Facecamping is where you're within 1m of the hook looking at the survivor". Just because they explained you can now unhook from any side doesn't take away from the fact they're in the same position.

https://youtu.be/DzEosOqhDpk?t=26m58s
"what it stops, is that right now if the killer stands right in front of the hook, there is no way to unhook"

Right, so the swivel hook stops hook blocking, they never mentioned face camping at all.

@Tsulan said:

@Master said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Tsulan said:

@SenzuDuck said:
Dead by Daylight > Bug Reports - PC > Topic Details
Is where it was posted.
Not the general forum at all.

Stop trying to make out your trolling wasn't deserved of a ban.

Also - curious as to your opinion on facecamping, seeing as your own evidence to dispute what it is directly contradicts what you think it is.

The thread was moved AFTER i made my post.
Please don´t make stuff up. Yes, now it´s on the bug report forum. But it wasn´t when i made my post. Maybe 1 mod moved it and another mod banned. Since i rarely visit the bug report forum anyway. Also i´m not really a troll, or have you seen me trolling new players or insult people?

Care to specify the face camping thing? My opinion is, that facecamping (survivors being unable to unhook, because the "press M1 to unhook" promt didn´t appear) has been removed. Yes, it´s still possible to stand next to the hook, but survivors can still unhook.
My rant is basically because i´ve seen streamers accuse Freddy of being a facecamper. (duh)

You said "Here is how the devs describe camping" and they literally describe camping facecamping as being 1m within the hook, hard camping as 1-8m of the hook etc etc.

I specify facecamping as you know face to face with the killer until i'm dead FACECAMPING. Blocking the hook was a separate issue - they're still in the same position.

But they explained in that very video, that it was previously impossible to unhook and even showed what we have now. The possibility to unhook from every angle.

Face camping WAS blocking the hook as killer. Making it impossible for other survivors to unhook. Now it is possible. I´ve played with SWF groups, where someone claimed to be face camped, while the killer was 10 meters away. The name is being missused. Yes, a killer still can stand in the face of the survivor, but other survivors can unhook (not the wisest choice if the killer is Leatherface, but at least they have the possibility).

He literally says "Facecamping is where you're within 1m of the hook looking at the survivor". Just because they explained you can now unhook from any side doesn't take away from the fact they're in the same position.

https://youtu.be/DzEosOqhDpk?t=26m58s
"what it stops, is that right now if the killer stands right in front of the hook, there is no way to unhook"

Right, so the swivel hook stops hook blocking, they never mentioned face camping at all.

I give up. You keep calling it whatever you like.

Some guys are just a hopeless case

You can argue with some people. But not with everyone.
Maybe he trolls, maybe he just want´s to see how far he can take me before i start insulting, or maybe he´s convinced of what he says. I don´t know.

Anyway, this went off topic and i´m to tired to discuss this with him any further.

Literally every bit of evidence you've given hasn't proven your point and has contradicted it - devs have stated what face camping is, it's on the support website, nowhere does it say face camping is gone, lol. Hook blocking is gone however, lul.