The No-Mither Debate

Because bp

I'd prefer an actual use instead of just a BP bonus but that would still be better than what it is now. Just saying "it's hard mode" is not really a good reason for a perk to be total garbage

To be fair, both sides have 1 perk for “+100% to all”. However, giving bps to Boldness makes sense. You have to be bold to even want this perk!

Maybe Survival as runner-up, but you’re not very likely to get the 8,000 base points to make the bonus worth it.

double BPs would be a little much, considering we also already have a double BP survivor perk.

also, double BP could potentially backfire, as now everyone would run the perk, therefore making x2 BPs, but no one escapes anymore.

i think x2 BP for Survival would be fair, as it would give you a bonus, but doesnt attract everyone to the perk to get more BPs, but actually only the ones who think they can get out and do well.

There should be a reward for you playing on "hard mode".

I think there should be an "other" category. I think survivors should gain a 25% stackable bonus to all bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 100% for completing a generator or fully healing an ally. If you want to go the BP route anyways. WGLF is useless, might as well put a useful condition on a perk that's already hard to play with.

Any reason for Survivors to gain more BP I will support.

that would be too easy though.

what we need imo is more blood score events for the Survival cathegory instead.

currently we have:

• healing yourself with selfcare
• mending yourself
• cleansing yourself
• escaping a Reversed Beartrap
• escaping the killers grasp
• wiggeling on the killers shouder
• struggeling on the hook
• escaping the hook
• entering Endgame Collapse
• surviving
• surviving as the obsession
• dying as the obsession

sadly, majority of these are eigther incredibly hard to pull of or depend on vertain perks / killers being used.

the ones that are always available for every survivor are:

• escaping the killers grasp
• wiggeling on the killers shoulder
• struggeling on the hook
• surviving
• escaping the hook
• entering Endgame Collapse

thos done give too many points though or are very hard to achieve, which is why that is the BP category you are almost guaranteed to make the least BP in.

i think however we can change this by adding some more possible score events. especially when thinking of No Mither, one in particular comes to mind:

• standing back up from the ground

besides that, i also have a few ideas to what else we could add:

• staying within a close are to the killer without being spotted (stealth buff)
• escaping the Endgame Collapse (more points the closer it is to death)

please note that this is not supposed to give you a lot of survival points on top now, you should still work for this category and you should not be able to gain many BP in it with dying.

the idea is to encourage good players to give the perk a shot for bonus points, however having bad team mates equipt the perk because of some 2x BP mechanic would hurt the survivors a lot more than it would help, so the bonus points need to be hard to earn.

Give extra BP in everything because you're likely to be focused for using No Mither anyways.

I don't agree with No Mither being hard mode either because most people who run No Mither run other perks with it. Hard mode would be running no perks at all or just running No Mither which no one does. They only run No Mither to combo with the gen rush build.

Also my other opinion is No Mither is only the way it is so survivors can use Dead Hard immediately. Unless the devs clarify this is the only way I can interpret why this perk was designed the way it is. Never looked at it as a challenge mode perk just a bad one.

No mither was not designed to be a perk everyone should use. It's meant to be a hard challenge perk for those who think they have the skill to use it for an extra layer of difficulty.

What you don't want is player using it without being able to play well simply for the extra bloodpoints as it puts all the others in the match at a disadvantage.

The extra bloodpoints would help make this perk a little bit better, but really it just needs a rework.

I thought this was going to be a debate on how to pronounce mither.

It's an English word on an English character. So it isn't pronounced "myther". It rhymes with hither.

Survival category, 100% bonus bloodpoints.

Also. No grunting or moaning. And turn the ruddy loud injured music off.

Survival category... because you ain't getting much points in this category