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The Reason Some Dont Like The Free Exclusives

xRem
xRem Member Posts: 375

This is what I think and somewhat agree with

It's not that they want it all to themselves or their being rude, mean or selfish. It has more to do with how they got it, they put time into getting something that was important or cool to them. They had the game and put the time to earn something they wanted so naturally when their told after they worked and earned what they wanted its being given to everyone because of scammers they're a bit upset.

Imagine you work towards something and at the end people who didnt work get it as well, you get nothing extra for doing the work while the person who did less than you gets the same reward.

I understand people want the cosmetics and that some literally couldn't get them, but the players that earned them deserve something for working to get them.

Comments

  • Speshul_Kitten
    Speshul_Kitten Member Posts: 1,861

    the majority of people saying they donโ€™t care never owned the cosmetics. Or, claimed they did but somehow donโ€™t seem to care that they put in the grind for event cosmetics. Which is in nature, contradicting to oneโ€™s own effort to claim and hold.

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962
  • kate_best_girl
    kate_best_girl Member Posts: 2,184

    I owned Kate's slip dress and huntress's dog mask while it annoys me slightly they'll be given for free its not that bad

  • Rinthespooki
    Rinthespooki Member Posts: 255

    Tbh i want compensation for spending time getting the event cosmetics , not this stupid excuse that i "got to have em early".

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    That's actually exactly what language is. Using words to define things accurately. If you don't stick to language rules and definitions then you're just making things up.

    You're just being a purple goose.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    edited November 2019

    They're cosmetic items in a video game. They don't matter, because they aren't real. You don't actually own them, either; they're just part of the EULA that you agreed to.

    Also, Behaviour didn't prescribe any of the "work" that you did. They were giveaways to convention attendees. Behaviour has no control over how you decide to spend your human hours, so to shackle their decisions to one person's whims that are beyond their control or their scope is absurd. They are releasing exclusive cosmetics to everyone primarily to protect people from scams involving their product, and also because toxic attitudes demonstrably develop around this kind of exclusivity.

    And, this is a video game. It is, by definition, not work.

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    Then maybe you should apply this to the OP and understand where he's coming from.

  • JiggleWiggle
    JiggleWiggle Member Posts: 329

    I think people who already own them before should get rewarded with auric cells.

  • Rinthespooki
    Rinthespooki Member Posts: 255

    I even have proof that i own them (screenshots) soo yes pls.

  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213

    People aren't getting it right after though. This is years after. This is all just dumb at this point.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275

    No, that's the purpose you're subjectively ascribing to them. Do you think Behaviour's marketing team sat down and went "We really want to give these cosmetics away at [CONVENTION] to reward the human hours spent getting here"? Because they didn't.

    They just made cool promotional items as part of their branding and outreach at that convention, for fans who happened to be there. Maybe some non-players got these skins and were exposed to the game for the very first time, and so they wound up becoming fans as a result of receiving these promo items. If anything, that's the purpose of stuff like this.

    And, if you spent all the effort and money to attend a convention just to get a shirt for Claudette -- as opposed to just wanting to experience the convention overall -- I dare say you have some lopsided priorities. I'm not making a personal attack, I think this feels like the insinuation behind all the "we WORKED to get these" posts.

  • Fog_King
    Fog_King Member Posts: 688

    I don't really care. They are giving the cosmetics to everyone? Good. I have some of them and I don't have others. For example, I have cosmetics that were from events, before the shop was introduced. I did what had to be done to get them at the time, but I won't be annoyed that now everyone that was not around the game at the time or could not complete the events gets them. I got to enjou them for some time, now everyone will. And it's just cosmetics, it will not change the gameplay at all. People need to relax and focus their anger at things in the real world that need change, not about a game...

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275

    That's what an argument is -- trying to convince others that your position has merit.

    You posed the idea that these cosmetics were meant to "reward human hours spent." This is a flimsy position, and there is no strong basis for it, and I just explained how there was no way Behaviour's marketing team gave them away with that intention.

    I've provided a thorough breakdown of why it makes sense, from a big-picture standpoint, to release all of these old convention exclusives into the general pool. And, Behaviour has laid out the facts for why they don't want to do exclusive items anymore in their November developer update.

    All of the pushback I've seen to this so far amounts to these really flimsy "but we WORKED for it" arguments that aren't even accurate pictures of how anyone got these items in the first place. It's a weak-argument that really just means "but we want to feel special for being the very few people to have this skin," ignoring all of the reasons in favor.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    edited November 2019

    This quote of yours here: "People have laid down precious hour of their life on these cosmetics, showing their true dedication. They just like me want to feel special about something."

    This hits the nail on the head of a point I made in a different cosmetic complaint thread: These cosmetics are not a reason to feel special. It is important to learn, just as a human being overall, to step out of the idea of "I must show my TRUE dedication and own all the things." This is a trap, and I believe it's a real danger that exists in any kind of collector culture or fandom. You don't have to own all the things, or know all the things, or whatever in order to be a "true" fan of this game, or of anything else. Anyone who says you do, or would look down on your for not owning this or that, is just a toxic gatekeeper.

    I'm a big Halloween fan. I love the movies. I've loved the franchise since I was a kid in the '80s, (even the really bad ones like Halloween 6). I know an uncharacteristically large amount of trivia, especially about the first movie, than any normal person does. But I don't own a ton of Halloween merch. My house isn't covered in Michael Myers masks. I don't have to "prove" my fandom; it's enough to like the thing I like. And if I lorded all the things I know over someone who is a newer or less-passionate fan, as though they're not "fan" enough for me, I'd be a real jerk for doing that, wouldn't I?

    Sorry if I rambled too much. I think it's just important to put this into the perspective of how much this all matters as a reflection of you as a person or as a fan of this game, and the answer is ultimately... it really doesn't.

  • CaptainCastle
    CaptainCastle Member Posts: 536

    I love that people are trying to tell others their system for determining value is wrong. "If you care about cosmetics you suffer from a personality flaw"


    I'm a nihilist, does that mean none of the things you care about matter because they dont matter to me? Of course not. Though to be fair most of you are children lol

  • Eleghost
    Eleghost Member Posts: 1,190

    Earning them should be used loosely there as you had like a month for each event one. As for the convention ones, If you went there you have the memories and such plus i highly doubt people went to every single convention these were given away at. Basically everyone is getting something regardless. If people are upset it's probably because they paid absurd amounts of money for a code to get the cosmetic.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    edited November 2019

    I mean, OK. That post was actually trying to give you some positive reinforcement and glass-half-full mindset advice, but how you respond to it is your choice. I thought we were just having a conversation, I'm not trying to attack you.

  • CaptainCastle
    CaptainCastle Member Posts: 536

    You're literally telling him to reevaluate himself because he values something he earned.


    If you genuinely see this as you trying to be open to discussion and engage with his ideas then YOU need to reevaluate.

  • designator
    designator Member Posts: 124

    That's literally half the people on this forum. We're the entitled ones for valuing something we earned but they are not entitled for feeling they deserve something they didn't earn.

  • CaptainCastle
    CaptainCastle Member Posts: 536

    Its a good thing you're here to tell us what is healthy and what isn't.


    Thanks for being our armchair psychologist!

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    edited November 2019

    This thread is getting a little mean-spirited now.

    But @Sentient_Locker's point about this unhealthy "covet thy neighbor's goods" worldview is worth thinking about. You should not be any less satisfied with your cosmetic items than you were yesterday, just because you know more people are going to have them.

    And no one "earned" these cosmetics. They weren't toiling away at a job in exchange for them. They walked up to a person at a booth at Comic-Con or wherever, and that person handed them a card with a code on it. These are not currency. And I stand by my earlier comment about how this skewed attitude in many fandoms is really unhealthy.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,509

    The only reason people are pissed about the cosmetics being given out is because of its rarity gives it artificial value. That value deminishes when the rarity goes away. It's no longer "special" if EVERYONE has it.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,931

    The definition of petty is feeling that someone else's good fortune is your bad fortune. Stop being petty. For those of you that had the cosmetics before everyone else then that is your reward. You had a period of time where you had something unique. Nothing is forever.

  • StrickxNyne
    StrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    Sounds like someone's mad they can't scam because now the items are for everyone ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • senki527
    senki527 Member Posts: 275

    Simple explanation: egoism

  • Glory
    Glory Member Posts: 241

    "Those people WORKED to get their cosmetics"

    Yeah, they sure "worked", playing DbD is such a harrowing ordeal /s