Are there any plans to change the Nurse?
She's been taken down way too hard from the basekit nerf. It has made her tremendously unfun to play as and it gives way too much forgiveness to survivors who make mistakes against her.
Are there any plans to revert or tone back the base kit nerf so that she can actually be fun to play as again?
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no, becasue killers arent allowed to have fun in the game only survivors. sorry mate.
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Nurse was such a fun killer before this change. I understand the addons needed to be changed and I like that the problematic ones were removed, but I seriously wish that they would have left her basekit alone. It feels so unfun to play around.
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Leak patch notes show they are fixing her post blink camera shutter. Maybe they are waiting to see if people player her more after this.
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Its the WAITING to be able to use my basekit power that has ruined her for me and many other players. Reducing her camera shake isn't going to change the fact that I need to waste time waiting for my power to come back.
This is not a fix, they need to admit the screwed up and give her back her basekit the way it was. The addon nerfs was all she needed.
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Fixing a bug doesn’t change needing to wait after waiting to use her power again. Can’t see any real increase in use from that bugfix...
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I'm still playing her and i can say it's big fun, if you use cooldown addons..
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A killer should not only be fun if you have the right addons.
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*cries in Legion*
*cries in Doctor*
*cries in Clown*
I agree with you, but apparently BHVR does not.
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Legion and Doctor are fun even without add ons imo.
I certainly won’t disagree about Clown though...
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Not one red ranks lol.
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To be fair I said fun. Fun and effective are different things.
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That's true. For me fun and effectiveness are connected somehow, but it's subjective tho.
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I'm just giving reason why they might be waiting. I don't disagree with your point.
The camera shake isn't a small thing though. I couldn't really play Nurse after they turned on Dedicated servers because of it.
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Also a basekit killer shouldnt be able to easy 4k. Thats how basekit Nurse was like. Now not. Thats totally fine. They just have to fix certain issues mostly related to dedicated server, thats all.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was being confrontational to you, I agree there needs to be a change to bring the Nurse back from Daily only status.
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No it wasn't. Nurse with her basekit was very jukable actually. Now with her basekit good luck getting out of green ranks, you'll be miserable.
But even if you escape green rank, you'll still be miserable. That basekit nerf is crippling. No informed opinion on Nurse rated her basekit as too strong. It was just an appeasement attempt...
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Ah so why did so many highranked Nurses never used any Addons, if they would have been so easily jukeable? And still got their 4k? Nurse was too powerful even only with basekit. There is nothing to argue against this, cause this was a fact shown by data. Now you have to play around and cant blink mindlessly. So stop telling lies.
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I wish they would at the very least tell us if they are even looking at her anymore. They’ve gotten so much feedback and suggestions that they never even reply to.
it honestly feels like they’re just going to ignore all the nurse threads until people stop caring. :-(
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I dont know how many high rank nurses played without addons and performed outstandingly tbh. But would you mind linking me the source of the data you refering to? Id like to take a look at that.
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Are you telling me you rarely ran into Omega blink and three blink Nurses?
As for why some never used addons there are many reasons.
- Majority or the addons were trash
- Mess with muscle memory
- Found multi blinks to be unfair
- Wanted consistency over relying on addons to be good.
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High ranked Nurses never used addons because they screwed with muscle memory. It's true that it was possible to 4k with her basekit, just like it's possible to escape without items. I fail to see why getting a 4k without addons is problematic when escaping without items is seen as perfectly fine.
Also can you show me the data of what exactly the killrate was for a Nurse with no addons. I'd love to know.
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If the devs listen to their community then i would say, yes. Definatly in the near future.
but then again nurse is a free character. And BHVR is all about That cha ching lately.
so probably not...
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You shouldnt be able to easily 4k vs players of the same skill level. But that was the case within the vastly amount of games. Comparing Nurse basekit to escape without Items is quite hilarious. That doesnt compare in the slightest.
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Basekit Nurse was not able to easily 4K. You are confusing easy 4K with easier to 4K with than the rest of the cast.
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mained base kit nurse and she is so unfun now... I stopped playing killer basically and only play survivor now... hopefully devs can reply in one of these multiple threads one day...
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Bug Fix: Nurse was fun for Killers to play. She has now been correctly balanced so only Survivors have fun vis-à-vis winning.
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This is the problem, they made addons specifically around the nerf to force you to use addons.
They will never change her because it requires making new addons, and thus more time spent doing something they should be doing, instead of making cosmetics and thinking of rift challenges.
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Made a whole post explaining how not only does she feel clunky and like survivors are getting a handout in chase , the devs also failed to achieve the goals they claimed to us to be their intention..diversify nurses play styles? Great..if you dont run at least 1 cd addon good survivors will bury you..oh and they nerfed them hard before release ,/ you know, just in case you could feel ok enough with 1..Didnt want to hurt nurses play rate? Shes not only even harder than before but they slammed a heavy limit on her power with this change..you know they overdid it when using two addons cant even get you base nurse
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Survivors memed about 1 blink nurse, BHVR took it seriously.
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Survivors complain: We'll change that next!
Killers complain: Eh..Sometime next year..maybe?
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This is what I think the devs should do:
- Revert the base kit nerf. The add-on changes can stay the same.
- Change her cool down to something more appropriate. Either a longer fatigue or shortened lunge would be more acceptable.
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Not too far off
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The difference being basekit nurse is much harder to play than basekit trapper.. the cooldown on her basekit was a bit much.. I dont even play her but they should either revert it or try lessing it.. to 2.5 or 2 second base and check how that works and keep adjusting
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