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How do I play Legion and win?

The title says it all I tried buying Legion and I typically run Ruin, Monitor, Thana, Barbecue, and I consistently get smashed into the ground and am lucky to get one death where if I run Freddy or GF I can 2-3k pretty well. I try and not tunnel at all, I use my power to hit one surv then find as many as I can and tag them as well but by the time I tag 2-3 survivors my ruin is gone and 1-2 gens are done.


Basically what I am asking is how do you play this legion in a non-toxic way and get any results?

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  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    stabstabstabstabstabstabstab


    Ok but actually most of it just comes down to knowing when to chase other people on Killer Instinct, and when to realise they are just too far away and continue trying to down the person you just stabbed w/ Frenzy.

    How experienced are you with the game in general?

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    If the survivors got one lower rank you win. Against good survivors you loose. That's how legion wirks nowadays sadly.

  • Khar
    Khar Member Posts: 640

    Try using Pop Goes The Weasel alongside Ruin. Also, If you stab someone and don't hear any heartbeats, or it seems the other survivors are too far, then cancel frenzy and commit to the survivor you just injured. You may not want to tunnel, but if you find the same survivor, go for them anyway if there's no other option.

    Discordance is good for helping locate multiple survivors, too. The main thing to remember is when to stop a chase that seems like you're not going to down the target. It's tough, but you gotta get back to disrupting gen progress often to keep things in your favor.

  • EverflowingRiver
    EverflowingRiver Member Posts: 562

    What others have said about knowing when to commit to a chase is great advice. I, however, don't use ruin. The gamble isn't worth it to me. I use Thana, sloppy, monitor, and pop. I don't want the survivors to heal because of Thana and shorter chases. If they do want to heal, it's longer heal times for them and they are not doing gens.

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    Keeping everyone injured is important but knowing when to pinball and when to keep chasing is even more important. If you find your first victim next to a Gen I wouldn't activate FF yet, just M1 them since they're near an objective. After that hook is when you start pin balling since everyone's priorities are scattered, try to get as many as you can injured because DW sucks and the Devs agreed.

    I would suggest Knockout, with Knockout you can slug one person and if you have 3rd Seal you can make it harder for them to be picked up. With them on the ground and Thanatophobia you're forcing the Survivors to do more than Gens and distract them with healing and helping their friend, best case scenario is getting 1 Survivor on a hook while someone else is till on the ground.

    Corrupt Intervention is good for chase Killers like Legion as the area for them to do Gens is smaller and therefore easier for you to use your ability.

  • TheRoyalOwl
    TheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 749

    Don't use thana, because its trash, and sloppy because legion is being changed so FF don't count as normal hits.

  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    I think Legion is the one killer that Thanatophobia is good on.

  • EverflowingRiver
    EverflowingRiver Member Posts: 562

    I disagree, thana is strong when you get it rolling. I have used sloppy for awhile now, and the changes are not in effect yet so it's still a strong pick for Legion.

  • PistolTimb
    PistolTimb Member Posts: 1,413

    Run meta perks and get good with mindgames

  • Spooky13
    Spooky13 Member Posts: 1,471

    I would go with Thana, Dying Light, Sloppy, and either Nurses, Ruin, or BBQ, your choice. Slow the game down as much as possible, make sure no one heals, and stab as much as possible :D

  • TheRoyalOwl
    TheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 749

    Yeah that extra 10 seconds to gens times is really gonna help.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    The Fanatical Legion Main here to tell you: WELCOME TO THE LEGION! Here's your mask, knife and the hatred of Thousands that can't let Old Legion go! (Which may or may not include the Devs) I would ask you to come by my Thread in feedback after you play Legion a bit for any ideas you might have on improving them!

    Perks! This might sound weird but I get ALOT out of Thrilling, Surge, STBFL (though, honestly with the patch coming up.... will need a new one here) AND Corrupt Intervention!

    As far as playing goes.... I honestly don't use the power too much cause it really feels like it punishes you more than helps! BUT you want to get used to knowing when to chase that Killer instinct and when to cancel and M1 the one you just slapped. Try to get everyone hurt and mending (or just hurt) as much as you can, and then punish them if they don't heal! If they do heal, Feral Frenzy them till they stop it.

    Playing Legion is an uphill battle honestly, They need ALOT of help and the new patch coming out WILL NOT HELP THEM THAT MUCH! Though the Vault pallet speed is sexy.... the rest isnt enough for loss of Perk synergy... I'm going on a tangent arnt i?

    Just play and do the best you can! It gets easier with practice... just don't expect to always win as Legion.

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    Very simple my friend. Equip this skin on Julie and you will 4k instantly every time:


  • Coriander
    Coriander Member Posts: 1,119

    Use Feral Frenzy. If everyone is Mending or Healing, they are not Repairing. Easier said than done, I know, but I see too many running around just going for basic attacks. Deep Wounds forces them to break the chase desperately or go down regardless. I'm a low level Legion so maybe I need more experience before I have the right to discuss pointers, but this has helped me in the past.

  • EverflowingRiver
    EverflowingRiver Member Posts: 562

    Yeah, actually it does when gens are typically done so quick. I wish I was as good as you though where apparently 10 seconds doesn't matter.

  • ahandfulofrain
    ahandfulofrain Member Posts: 528

    Thanataphobia, Dying Light, Sloppy Butcher (or Pop) and Ruin with Iri button and Stolen Sketch Book.

  • underlord99
    underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    I run STBFL on him but ik that it will be getting changed :*(

  • DarthRane
    DarthRane Member Posts: 198

    Generally against a good team you're gonna be sold

    But in the effort of actually bring helpful, try to find a weak link as others have mentioned often times if you can find at least one you can exploit them to force survivors into unsafe situations.


    Additionally since you already have an ability that helps with damaging everyone I recommend bring than and sloppy at all times. The other 2 personal choice. I find hex the third seal helps a bit and if you're against good randos makes their job a lot harder also running deer stalker is a good choice as you're going to be slowing them down anyway and right now the meta really isn't to bring unbreakable.

    Guaging distance with the heart be can be a bit difficult because it's not very well defined. Generally if they aren't in my line of sight and it's a big map I commit to whoever I just hit.


    Additionally if they are altogether often times they will start mending right in front of you, if you can mind game them and cancel mid chase and come back and hit them for a free down it works wonders.


    But he's just a hard killer to have any chance of winning with honestly.

  • TunnelVision
    TunnelVision Member Posts: 1,375

    Easy, send a message to the survivors when in a lobby and ask nicely.

  • RIP_Legion
    RIP_Legion Member Posts: 428
    edited November 2019

    As odd as it sounds depending on your game knowledge (having a good idea where survivors are gonna be) you can get rid of BBQ, Legion is very good at finding people because as soon as you find one you'll find everyone. My build is Ruin, Sloppy, Thana, and Pop. I run it because I know his only real redeeming value is his stall potential and I look to maximize it and abuse it to the fullest. Obviously you're going to lose against a full 4 man sweat squad that actually knows what they're doing welcome to having 0 power in chase, it's just something you'll have to accept but against your average player you'll clean house, They'll waste so much time wanting to heal because Thana but when they do start to heal it takes forever (sloppy).

    Chase wise I would try to mindgame at spots where they can't see you directly as much as possible, what I like to do is say someone is camping a pallet, I'll act like I'm going around and then comeback and lunge hiding my red stain till the last second and hit them, that's something you'll want to practice and make the most out of as a small killer seeing as how he has (almost) nothing else going for him in chase. Another tip is to focus people who need to mend, they will get a screen effect that greatly darkens their screen and it can make them an easy down because of it.

    Mindgame wise you have a good bit available being a small 115% killer, faking one direction (hiding the red stain) and walking backwards towards where they're waiting is something you'll need to learn as Legion in particular is amazing at because he is so small. But to be fair don't overdo it, do one trick a couple of times only specifically against the same person and then switch it up randomly to fool them, early game good survivors are learning what you do in chase and how you operate, don't let them read you too well and keep them guessing.

    One last tip is don't try to mindgame (or moonwalk more than once) at a pallet loop where they can clearly see you, do it too much they'll catch on and it'll just drag on how long they can keep that pallet safe.

  • Predator3174PL
    Predator3174PL Member Posts: 302

    Here's the thing. YOU DON'T

    joking aside, learn when and how to use FF effective and juggle a lot between survivors. A lot of his gameplay is typical for M1 killers so learn how to mindgame these damned survivors.

    Perk wise, Ruin and/or PGTW is mandatory on him. Thanatophobia is also good on him. I would suggest not to use Sloppy or STBFL now on him, so you won't be surprised after the "rework" (unless they revert basic attacks not counting as basic attacks during FF). BBQ&Chilli is also good on him. I would consider Nemesis or Beast of Prey, unless they will change it.

  • Marcus
    Marcus Member Posts: 2,047

    Best way to win with Legion : play someone else.

  • TheRoyalOwl
    TheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 749

    10 seconds when everyone is injured, that's pretty bad, considering most people just heal at the hook anyway.

  • EverflowingRiver
    EverflowingRiver Member Posts: 562

    Keep in mind that's 10 seconds per gen in theory so almost a minute of extension.

  • TheRoyalOwl
    TheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 749

    50 seconds if everyone is injured

    48 seconds for 3 full heals

    You activating your FF and hitting three people does almost more than thana will do the whole game

  • LazyPayday
    LazyPayday Member Posts: 420

    I strongly recommend sloppy butcher, survivors will spend ages healing back up and that'll give you more time to breathe.

  • EverflowingRiver
    EverflowingRiver Member Posts: 562

    If I have sloppy heals take longer per person plus thana slows down the healing itself so the cumulative time it takes to heal and get back on gens is worth it. If they chose not to heal, then thana slows down the gens and I get quicker downs. It's not rocket science and is a very common build with Legion. Don't know what else to say at this point...

  • LazyPayday
    LazyPayday Member Posts: 420

    I strongly recommend sloppy butcher, survivors will spend ages healing back up and that'll give you more time to breathe.

  • Lillika
    Lillika Member Posts: 38

    I do pretty well with legion, the key is to be patient. I find Pop is great for him. Stalling the game out, getting a good 3 gen and the end is key. Don't chase too long. Break off when you can. I like to farm BP with Legion and try to hook everyone at least once and get lots of hits and lots chases. You can even pip if you down just 1 if you hooked them all. For me winning is pipping and I can do this alot with Legion.

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