Lack of Purple/Red Rank Killers

Just curious, why is it so hard for Killers to rank up but so easy for Survivors?

I don't know what the formula is, but my wife makes fun of me when I play survivor. I can't loop anyone and I am lucky to ever escape a chase, but I can reach the red ranks as a survivor. As a killer I feel much more competant, but I usually won't get out of the green ranks before reset. I have had matches where I feel like I dominated with a 3k, but only get a black pip.

This is amazing and sad at the same time :'(

So did the devs ever talk about this? Or do they expect billys & plagues not to use their specials?

I played nothing but Killer up until the other day (grinding from low Green Rank to High Purple), until I decided to try Survivor for a while. I must admit that there is a lot less pressure when playing the Survivor side, due to duties being split up between four people compared to one. The chasing is probably my favourite element after having to put up with looping myself during my time playing Killer, the rush is much more enjoyable on the Survivor side.

I made my way from Yellow Rank Survivor up to today where I am now Red Rank, and continuing to enjoy Survivor due to the lack of stress and frustration hurled at you in the post-game lobby (I am aware that there is an option to turn this off, but I do like to speak to teams from time to time or even to say how well the other side played).

Not really wanted to play Killer since the Nurse nerf, nor due to the upcoming Legion nerf as it enforces a change of playstyle that I do not like/agree with due to how Feral Frenzy has been changed.

I think there needs to be an incentive for Killers now, especially with SWF bullying and bodying them at the higher ranks. I must admit that I haven't had an issue with SoloQ yet as a Survivor, although I'm sure I will likely find an issue sooner rather than later with it.

When you play survivor its very easy to black pip or single pip. Just do a gen, unhook someone, heal a bit don't die too quick and you are pretty sure to pip. You will only depip in the rare annoying games where you get tunneled quickly, or where some teammates DC early on.

Double piping as survivor is harder, but it does not matter. Basicly as long as you play regularly and don't do terrible you will keep going up the ranks.

On the killer side, things are much more swingy. Its very easy to depip if the survivors are efficient on gens. Sometimes you will work your ass off only to get a black pip, and getting the double pip pretty much require you to slug to counter the hatch.

Keys are also very common theses days in red and purple ranks and massively hurt killer emblems. You can do well the whole game and still eat a black pip because the survivors used a key and there is very little you can do about it beside mercilessly tunneling the key holder and hope nobody pick it up from the hook. That is if you even notice the key, as the bloody things are very hard to see.

Should I even mention SWF and map design at that point ? As well as voluntary ragequits and random servers DC ? I think you get the picture.

Long story short, piping as killer is much less forgiving than survivor and doubly so if you are not a fan of the big top tier killers.

I agree with a lot of people here: I think the biggest problem is with the emblem system. Speaking from personal experience, it's way easier to rank up as a Survivor than as a Killer, even if you aren't that good as a survivor.

Moving up the ranks is very difficult unless you're playing as an M1 killer. Trapper, Hillbilly, Huntress, Leatherface, Pig, Demogorgon and Plague will often get nothing more than a black pip for 3Ks and 4Ks, and will almost always depip if they get 2 kills or less. If your killer's power involves damaging the survivors and doesn't count as a basic attack, you will often be screwed over by the emblem system when you deserved to get 1-2 pips.

Also, I think the emblem system is another reason why Spirit is so popular in the red ranks: In addition to being really easy to learn and do well with, she relies on her normal M1 attack to damage survivors, so she never misses out on emblem points.

I play both sides, and I heavily agree with this. I'm almost rank 6 as Survivor and I'm just now scratching rank 13 for Killer and I've been playing both equally for the season. Really frustrating.

They need to fix the emblems, honestly. I don't think the devs are even paying attention to killers with instadowns. I stopped playing Myers just because I could never pip with him. If I went into tier 3, I was sure to bypass the chaser emblem and end up only getting a safety pip...even if I got a 4k.

I just never found Nurse fun to begin with. You have such an all-or-nothing power that's extremely punishing if you miss, but allows you to destroy even the best survivor teams if you can land a hit consistently. It just feels stupid.

It’s only for certain killers though. Billy and Plague being the main culprits. Since the meta is to not cleanse against Plague, she can kill everybody and get 28K points and not pip due to the chaser emblem. Billy has an instadown so that is obvious.

Most other killers have no problem pipping. The other instadown killers (Myers, Ghostface, Bubba) are different due to either having to work for their instadown (stalking) or being so bad that they can’t use their instadown most of the time (Bubba). So they get M1 hits a majority of the time.

I don’t find it hard to pip as most killers, but I do play Plague the most so I pip less frequently. I’m still at Rank 2 though.

It’s well known that Bubba’s chainsaw isn’t that great. It’s just so easily avoidable and survivors can force him to M1 at strong loops. I’ve seen some really good players who main Bubba. I haven’t put much time into him so maybe I’m missing something.

I just meant that Bubba is more likely to down survivors in two hits than Billy and Plague so it’s more likely he’ll pip if he gets a 4K as opposed to Billy and Vommy Mommy.

Poor Bubba can’t even pip if you can use his chainsaw effectively. The sad life of Leatherdaddy :(

They made it really hard to pip in red ranks after the plague update, i remember i got my first "entity displeased" with legion on purple ranks despite the fact it was almost impossible to de-pip with them before the update.