SWF need to be nerfed
THIS IS NOT A SWF HATE DISCUSSION! THIS IS NOT A SWF HATE DISCUSSION! THIS IS NOT A SWF HATE DISCUSSION! Alright, now i can move on.
BHVR want to balance around SWF, and are trying to get solo surv to the same level first. This... is impossible, solo & SWF can never be close to each-other in power atm unless something like voice chat is introduced, and well, DbD does not need to have 12 year-olds screaming at each-other on top of the rest of the toxicity. Knowing BHVR, they aren't gonna start buffing killer to deal with 3-4 mans until all survs are equal. The only way solo could reach SWF without adding comms is if SWF was weaker outright. So, this is a thread to discuss what could happen to SWF to bring them down a notch so that solos can compare.
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An idea of mine is to reduce perks available to SWF, as BHVR want to use perks to bridge the distance between solo & SWF. So maybe give SWF less perk slots, they're either playing for fun with friends, or playing to win, and i don't think a few mates are gonna care about having to limit builds. Yes, this is not THE solution, and people won't like it(hell, i'm not too big of a fan myself), but it's A solution.
1-2man: 4 perks | 3man: 3 perks | 4man: 2 perks
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I'm not a fan of that strategy they're doing because we know what the devs consider a "strong" killer and it's weak and non viable. I can't believe that they would buff the killers enough to compensate for getting solo''s to SWF level.
The best solution in my opinion is a ranked and unranked queue. A cross platform player base would be big enough to handle this. Ranked is solo OR up to 2 SWF. Unranked would allow any amount of SWF. People would play unranked still for higher blood points and when they wanted to practice different killers or builds without losing rank. Obviously this would all only work if we also finally got ranked rewards as well.
In regards to your nerf to SWF, there's no way to directly nerf SWF without hurting solo's.
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The devs are not gonna nerf SWFs because a couple buddies wanted to play together.They're already working on tweeking killers, theyve been pretty vocal on their plans to do so. We can actually expect some love to Doc soon, which is gonna be nice.
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Their statement about doctor not necessarily getting a buff but being changed to be more fun to play against didn't really fill be with hope.
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SWF are never going to be nerfed because people don't want to be punished for playing with friends.
Can we please stop asking for SWF nerfs? What we need is to balance killers to be able to go up against survivors with comms, not balance SWF to be weaker just because they are playing with friends.
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It did for me. They're not gonna visit a killer who is already unpopular in an attempt to nerf him. Them tweeking him and making him less addon reliant to do even kinda sorta alright is in their best interest. You can continue being a negative Nancy with your "sky is falling" lvl of paranoia though, as a long running Freddy main...I know what theyre capable of giving us.
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Still a no. I hate to be that guy but just get better against people on comms. It wont kill you and not all swf groups are out to make your gameplay miserable and not all of them will even be good at it. Just deal with it
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the thing is if they buff killers to be able to go agaisnt SWF solos are gonna be demolished like actual #########. so yes SWF should be nerfed.
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You know, according to BHVR's stats (Specifically, a post made by @Almo), SWF doesn't really affect escape rates most of the time, because they tend to get super-altruistic and refuse to leave unless they can get everyone out.
It only has a significant impact on escape rates with high-ranking groups that have been playing together for a long time.
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As you mentioned slightly, at rank 1 it increases their survival rate significantly. I know people play at different ranks, but for those of us at rank 1 it is busted and ruins the game balance completely.
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and then solos get squashed. atm BHVR is(and rightly so) trying to get solos to around the level of SWF so that they can buff killer without solos getting left behind. Solos aren't getting to that level with just getting perks that give info SWF gets for free, if BHVR keeps trying to bring solo up without adding some kind of chat feature(which they shouldn't) they are never going to be close to SWF as is. This isn't about killer being able to deal with SWF, this is about solo being nothing compared to SWF.
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Got an idea. Take the concept from “We were here” that way it takes coms away. Just shooting an idea out there, don’t hate on it :D
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Solo survivor needs buffs instead
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Survivors need to be nerfed in general
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Swf starts with 1 player already on a hook and in struggle phase. If he's not paying attention and spamming the struggle button at the start of the game, that's 1 free kill for the killer from the get-go.
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Swf cant be nerfed. There arent ingame mechanics differenziating "solo" and "swf", theres only "survivor".
People grouping up or using external communication tools to coordinate will always be stronger than people who dont.
Even if they add ALL those survivor hud changes or info-tools, adding voicechat to it or "actively using such tools to win as a team instead of joking around" will always result in grozps being stronger than 4 randoms.
Additionally it would only reintroduce lobby hopping. You know, "4 randoms who happen to be friends and on discord"
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I prefer the plan to buff solo survivors to that level and then balance killers accordingly. Buff>Nerf.
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That's the right way.
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why just not buff solos the buff killer aswell instead of punishing people just trying to play the game together with their friend
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Hey, how about the most easy and obvious way to buff solos: just give them more built in aura reading.
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