How Legion Mains feel right now

So survivors with BT are no longer forced to mend or is this just for deep wounds?

How Oni mains feel-- Oh, wait. They don't exist.

Yeah, for one week max. Then poeple will realize how laughable he is, and switch back to their usual killers.

Why would you play him over the hillbilly?

Not really.

I betcha it will because wraith freddy and others can still avoid it by just waiting for the unhook.

BT by design is an anti camping perk. It not working as intended due to an added mechanic makes sense that it then needs a change. A killer shouldn't be able to camp and negate a perk specifically designed to help with it just becasue they have no TR.

They can rework it so farming doesn't work and make it not activate for 20 seconds after a hook so a killer has a least some time to leave for example so honest killers won't be affected.

I think it's time to delete deep wounds, put borrowed time how it was before deep wounds and rework legion. DW is such a joke

Yeah at this point Legion really needs a rework, his power doesn't do anything. Anything he does with his power just punishes the Legion.

BT got buffed this patch, as a result of the Legion nerf.

You’d essentially have to make BT not work when the exit gates are powered if you’re going to include “honest killers” as a whole but pretty much if a killer runs a perk to counter BT: i.e. insidious which is already weak (could use a buff where you could walk for a few seconds then it can be used at pallets etc to mindgame)... or someone takes pig, or someone takes wraith etc... BT shouldn’t work. That’s like the killer bringing a perk to permanently turn off exhaustion perks the whole game etc.

It’s a bad concept.

yeah exhaustion add-ons need a rework - forgot about those.

You can’t just eliminate plays from the killer... I play nice up until it’s a tryhard swf... sometimes you need to make a play etc... swf’s would beg the devs to remove any counterplay to their powerlevel no doubt... and it’s already unfair... do you see insidious at high ranks? Not since the emblem system came... do you see borrowed time in high ranks? Always been there and only been buffed which is daft... yet both perks can be obnoxious to the opponents but really insidious is just a juke and nothing more that’ll only work once if the person saving doesn’t check. Really neither perk deserves to exist at high ranks or both perks deserve to... can’t have it one way to make it un-impartial.

I’m going to guess you’ve never had several swf games with bt’s and ds’s... it’s extremely unpleasant to vs.

and no survivors aren’t entitled to be saved (taking the killer’s momentum)... to make a save you do gens regularly so the killer doesn’t go near the hook (And use stealth to make the save not rushing with scratchmarks)... only the best survivors know this and there’s so few of them.

People saved before BT existed you know? You don’t have to gen-rush the killer, just simply do the odd gen to let them know you’re busy and don’t hook rush. I like insidious players because they punish hook rushers... hope devs actually revive it.

Beating a good killer is incredibly hard as a solo survivor because most survivors you get teamed up with don’t do gens to draw killers away from hooks but instead all try to hook hive with BT.

The devs balance around 4 man swfs with bt/ds... the devs should nerf those groups for the better health of the game because it’s the solos and the killers that suffer.

The only thing I see DW doing so far now is preventing a use of bottled time. Aside from that, it's worthless. With the new DW mechanic, and FF attacks no longer counting as basic a attacks, the Legion now has no perks that synergize with their power. At all.

That all being said, the increased FF speed and vaulting do make FF a lot more fun. Now, if only we could do away with missed attacks ending FF.

But those plays can only be done with killers who have the undetectable status.

Trapper, clown, Billy, Leatherface, Doctor, Myers in T2/T3 can't use those plays. It's about consistency for all so it can be balanced correctly and not just be strong on most of the weakest killers.

Your last point tends to say you do camp and that is why you are seemingly annoyed by the suggestion.

Leatherface has a one hit down and his ability to hit multiple was ill thought out on how it could be used by some players. He was never designed to be a camping god it was the players who started to use that strat. His ability was designed to one hit and catch people off guard and have multi hits now and again.

If people want the game to be more balanced certain things to be consistent as if not it buffs some but weakens others creating more of a problem.

I played leatherface when he was viable, I’d slug the person rescued and punish hook rushers but otherwise played normally - I killed what I didn’t like as teammates when I solo’ed but yeah I’d camp SWF and you might have some clue how op they were back in the day... they’re still op but nowhere near the current level... I played hag after and now nurse. I wouldn’t ever sit on the hook all game because I wanted to win... unless it was the obsession (original DS) because killing that was necessary if you managed to dribble it to a hook in order to win because they could just do so much with DS to ruin your chances of winning... simply going down in-place of a teammate by bodyblocking near the end of the game would mean you’d get no momentum left.

If you’ve watched the leatherface films he ambushes people he kills looking through peep holes and jumping out. The devs probably wouldn’t admit it but I can pretty much they bet they thought of him being paired with insidious... at-least some of them.

No, the play to play around hook-rushers (who are trying to steal the killers momentum) would be removed and that needs counter-play. BT or not, survivors meed to rescue not on their terms but based around what the killer is doing. If someone actually insidious camps against good survivors... the good survivors will do gens letting the teammate hit stage 2 and then rescue them if they can and the killer will lose because the gens have been done. And it’s bubba... good survivors will just loop him well enough. There’s tonnes of pallets on every map and he’s a standard 115m/s... a lot more evadable than high mobility killers.