It needs to go and they also need to change it so the killer can't tell if a SWF joins to help keep them from dodging. While we are at it, offerings should all be secret to keep people from dodging a possible mori. I think better queue times is more important than knowing the ranks. If as a solo survivor you get stuck with a 20, too bad, play your game and move on. Same goes for a killer that gets stuck with a 4 man swf, play and move on. You win some and lose some, stop trying to pick best case scenarios for yourself.
General Discussions
General Discussions
Official petition to bring back lobby rank 'bug'
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Yes
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It needs to go and they also need to change it so the killer can't tell if a SWF joins to help keep them from dodging. While we are at it, offerings should all be secret to keep people from dodging a possible mori. I think better queue times is more important than knowing the ranks. If as a solo survivor you get stuck with a 20, too bad, play your game and move on. Same goes for a killer that gets stuck with a 4 man swf, play and move on. You win some and lose some, stop trying to pick best case scenarios for yourself.
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For me this was one of the best things to come into the game in recent times even if it was a 'bug'. Sad to see it go and hope its brought back.
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Can this be abused? Yes.
Can other things in this game be abused and supported by the devs? Yes. Too much so!
Are people going to dodge for other reasons? Of course.
Is lobby dodging affecting the community that badly? Pfft. Nope.
While I did dodge lobbies more with the old "bug" it was mainly because I was in high purple, teaming with another purple and/or a red, then getting level 1-5 character yellow ranked survivors or lower. Sometimes I'd solo-queue into a low green team, maybe a mix of green and yellow, then find out later that the killer was 5 ranks higher than some survivors.
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This + see teammates perks and I’ll be more inclined to play DBD again. Well I try now and then, but these features not existing lead to situations where I end up too frustrated to play DBD.
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I agree with most of what you are saying. Especially the offerings. But you are quoting the minority of people on here about dodging lobbies. Most of the people here have stated they just want to know what they can expect from the people they are playing with. I have never dodged a lobby as survivor unless we were stuck at 3 for 10 minutes. And only ever dodged once as killer when 4 of the exact same blendettes with tool boxes popped up and i just really wasn't in the mood for it.
But survivors should be able to view offerings from other survivors as well as perk loadouts in the information menu in game. That sounds fair.
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im all in
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I really liked this bug. It helped me know what to expect from my team and play accordingly
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If that were really it, they wouldn't let the killer see the items we're going to bring in, because what I see most is a killer lobby dodging with characters P3 or flashlights, that's no excuse
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Yup, if they don't bring it back then that means they either want to force solos into swf or force them out of the game.
signed
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signed!
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Wow, you are being very nice, I was expecting worse for my stance on this. I agree most people wouldn't use it to dodge, but some would and i guess i am just for doing anything and everything to improve queue times.
I don't like the idea of seeing perk loadouts though, that would make survivors even stronger and they already seem to have enough going for them as is.
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Killers dodge flashlights?? Maybe wraith.... I would be fine with items not being shown as well.
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Signed (100 signatures wow pretty good).
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Plz bring it back. Signed
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Come on devs how can you ignore something with this much attention.
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This was one of the best things Behaviour added.
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I agree. I just wrote about this. It was so nice to have a choice and kind of choose team among my own ranks. I play solo, so I need this option.
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Im not going to insult you because i disagree with you. I prefer friendly or at the very least cordial discussions
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Doubt it was a bug with how nice it looked.
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Sorry boy it aint happening apparently even with the support
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So maybe we all just start dodging lobbies for zits and giggles? Lol!
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Peanits responded in another thread that it's never coming back. It was a bug. Reason being that it promotes lobby dodging
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Yes, please. I loved it. It was nice seeing if they were using their level one character.
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So were supposed to just accept having rank 20s on our team because of swf and the matchmaker? Thats like putting bronze people in other games into master games and telling them goodluck.
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Yup. I'm just relaying what I saw a dev say. It's in the thread titled "Why?"
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Yeah i know...
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This feature was only used for lobby dodging if the matchmaking system failed in the first place and mismatched players, so I find that argument entirely invalid.
And I don't know about you guys, but I see WAY more killers dodging than survivors, especially since survivor queue times have been much longer than killer queues recently (for me anyway).
Signed.
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It isn't necessarily the matchmaking, the problem is swf. If a 20 teams up with a 4, then they are both treated as 4's. I am not saying matchmaking is perfect, but that is how it is designed now with swf.
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Exactly the only time i dodged was if 20s were brought in because im a 7 even if they are smurfing thats not everyone so thanks to swf again we lose something good.
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“tRyInG tO bRiNg SoLo’S uP tO SwF”
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That's a good point actually! However, I still found some lobbies where all were solo but ranks were mismatched occasionally. So both swf and matchmaking are an issue.
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I know BHVR is claiming "people used this to dodge lobbies" but that sounds like a hollow excuse. Do they have data to back up the mentality of those who left a lobby? I dodge lobbies from ping as a survivor and as a killer typically only against 3-4 toolboxes.
I can only speak for myself but the lobby bug was amazing insight into how I wished to play as a solo survivor and it makes no logical sense (to me) for it to be removed. If I see a level 20 in my lobby when I'm at rank 4 (just an example) then I assume its a SWF and I can play around that as a solo.
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I voted this up just so that folks can see my Prestige marker again. That way I don't have to strut in looking like a confused cranberry farmer.
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Wait...
It was a bug? How ironic, that this game had a useful bug! That didn't break the game. And they got rid of it fairly quickly, cause it's a "bug" yet they can't seem to fix any other bugs, like oh I don't know, the footsteps being quieter every new patch.
Funny...
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It isn't a hollow excuse, people on this very thread are saying to bring it back because they don't want to be stuck with a low rank survivor in their matches, that is lobby dodging. Granted, they are the minority, but they aren't going to leave it in if it is being abused at all.
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You wanna have a bronze player on your team when your a master/diamond or whatever in other games? I know i wouldnt same thing applies here.
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I get it and I totally understand your point. The problem is that your point is the exact reason why they will not bring it back. They don't want lobby dodging. So in the same post that you are asking them to bring it back, you are giving them ammunition not to do that.
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How am i and the others supposed to survive with 1 or 2 dead weights because lets say the killers smart and goes after the weakest links and we lose both the 20s with 3 gens left thats me and another rank 7 vs a high level killer. Were #########. And ill just dodge any swf now and any low level survivor like others have said what they gonna do completely black out the other survivors?
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I am not arguing for or against it, I don't care. I am just trying to tell you that this is why they are not bringing it back.
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When the bugged version is actually better. BHVRed!
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Maybe if we get it to 150 upvotes theyll actually comment on the fact everyone wants this and they said this game is for the players if the players want it back why not? (Probably not but its on 140).
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It's sad that despite all of the upvotes on this post, devs will not bring it back
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Yeah even though they said they appreciate feedback.
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I liked it as solo, but given the way that SWF matchmaking currently is, it promoted dodging.
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Now were just gonna dodge every swf which will make it even worse though?
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How will you identify SWF?
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Everyone joins at the same time or within like a second of eachother?
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I usually just load into full or 2+ man lobbies....I'm never the first :(
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