Can People Get Banned For Using The Basement Now?
Ever since this update, and the addition of the basement hook instakill, I've been running into killers specifically aiming for only basement hooks. And, as killer, I get messages during the pregame lobby of people asking me to avoid the basement. Meaning, it's clearly a problem.
Can people get banned for this? It's a big exploit and there seem to be lots of people abusing it.
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No. Devs fault
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No, they are testing it now to make a hot fix rather than banning people for the bug they created.
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I'm sure you're right since it's a serious issue, but can you confirm?
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No, it is not bannable.
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Some killers dont know or dont have a choice if its the only hook.
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To be honest, I had no idea when I played my first round as killer. During my second round, I was forced to do so because there was no other hook I could get to, I do plan on avoiding it as best as I can.
Though, it is far from bannable, remember wake up? That was bugged for weeks with no punishment. So far I think the only bug the devs have ever created and banned people for using was the legion double blades.
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It's not really fair to ban for a bug which isn't the players fault and can be done without knowledge of it.
Its basically saying all players should just avoid the basement hooks now which can't be done and some even run basement builds and have done for a long time.
It's a bug and they are working on a fix so we will just have to wait.
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No, for multiple reasons.
- There's Tome challenges that revolve around the basement.
- Sometimes the basement is your only option for a hook.
- Some Killers just don't know
- People have ran basement builds forever.
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Not everyone knows, tome kinda forces it, survivors can win a game in 2:18 so I see this as a balance currently
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You could simply say something in game, ban those who continue too abuse it, and then compensate everyone for delaying the Archive challenge in shards or Fragments.
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If it was bannable survivors would begin running to the basement in order to be downed in the area so the killer wouldn't be able to hook them there.
The same principle existed when hooks remained broken by sabotage.
An area would be cleared of hooks during a match and survivors would run to the area to avoid being hooked since they could escape before the killer could reach a hook.
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Well that just makes too much sense.
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that would be okay, if the basement challenges wouldnt be needed to continue the rift.
yet they are, so it wouldnt be fair to just stop the rift progression for those who havent hooked 5 in the basement yet.
also, what if there are no hooks nearby and only the basement's left?
the survivor wont stop wiggeling, just because there is no other hook left in that area.
and to top it off, they cant say what exactly happens in the trials.
players could literally just report you for abusing the bug and the devs wouldnt be able to tell weather you actually did it or not. thats why they always say they need video evidence of hostage situations after all.
it would be better to just leave it alone and hotfix it asap imo.
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no, no and ofc not.
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You say that like there aren't 40+ more hooks all over the place; including directly outside the basement.
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I really would like to point out that the dev's clearly track data on where you are hooked, otherwise they wouldn't be able to have perks that work on the basement hooks, nor would they be able to do the rift challenge if they were unable to tell if you were hooked in the basement.
That being said, I still don't think it should be bannable, though I think killers should attempt to avoid purposely causing the bug and use another hook instead. But as I said before, I had a game last night where I had no choice but to use the basement, so I used the basement.
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Ive been playing killer as of late (survivor queue long) and i didnt know about the basement thing when doing my challenge till like my 3rd game in they told me, i felt so bad because its not fair. i thought the people who stayed down there gave up -_-
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You say that like they really wouldn't run directly to the basement anyway.
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Can't really ban people if they are just trying to get there archive.....take the L and move on to the next match. This isn't eSports....it's really not that serious and be honest....the devs have done a pretty good his so far.....I mean we have the Oni...he looks really neat.
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You say "the L" like it only happens one time or that it's rare...
No... More than 50% of killers right now are going for basement only hooks. I'm 90% sure they aren't all working on that ONE archive challenge either.
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So what....it will get fixed....go play something else...like really ....do you think the devs are just oblivious to the issue.....you screaming at them on this post about it being some great injustice is ridiculous and you need to move on. If you choose to play now....expect a killer to go to the basement.....you know it's broken so take the L or don't play...super simple zoomer.
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Yes, the devs are just oblivious to the issue. They went through the entire testing phase (however long or short it may be) and never once used the basement? That seems pretty oblivious if you ask me.
I fail to see how I'm "screaming". This is a very serious issue that massively affects the game health and the majority of the community (people who play both sides and people who play survivor)
All you're doing now is telling me that you're one of the people who is abusing the exploit.
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Love this new basement buff. It should not just be another hook, it's the basement for gods sake. Stay away from it if you are a survivor, this only adds to the game being more creepy. Close to the basement? Yeah you better run :)
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No way to tell if they know about it or not if they know and still do it it it abusing the exploit and that is banable offense but you Don't know if they know or not
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Letting people abuse bugs is not something that should be tolerated. If someone is reported for abusing the bug then they simply need too look into it. It's no different then any other report, you simply need too look into it.
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One? There are multiple in each level of the archive...
Ones asking to use Agitation, ones asking for monstrous shrine and ones asking for x amount of basement hooks in general.
Plus the multi trapper traps ones are easier with a basement build...
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there is a clear difference between me "abusing a bug" and "a bug appearing while i am playing / trying to unlock the archive challenges that involve the basement".
they said they'd already be testing a fix, so there will be a hotfix coming up soon.
but as long as the player does not specifically state that they are aware of the bug and are trying to abuse it, you should not ban players for using the basement, because there may or may not occur a bug down there. the killer cant controll the bug, it just happens sometimes.
as ive said before, there are scenarios where the basement is your only option.
this is also very different from exploids like the crotus prenn asylum exploid where one could teleport through a wall and stand outside the asylum on its 2nd floor. this time the bug is directly affecting the killer's gameplay and its unavoidable in certain scenarios.
the best option here is to fix it asap instead of starting to ban players for this.
there are good reasons why this shouldnt be a bannable offense - and the devs already stated they wont be banning players for this.
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Someone actually reported me for hooking them in the basement today, like sorry?... Can’t do the Monstrous Shrine challenge without someone trying to say that I’m “exploiting” bugs.
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There are a ton of other challenges that you can do that do not involve the basement.
You're fully aware of the bug and yet you decide to do things that involve it anyway. You're using the exploit.
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Fun stuff: just had 3 survivors dc since the punishment inside the game yet. All after I had slugged the entire team, I was bringing one a long walk to the basement for my challenge. They chose to struggle out, run to the one person on the hook and unhook. I down them + the unhooked when someone else gets up. The gets up person ran me around for 2 minutes (this was pretty early into the game on badham, so tons of pallets). finally down this person after they circle around clciking flashlight (they knew they reached a dead zone) then they dc'd. Boy sure is nice to not complete this challenge without being mean to survivors by first hooking them in basement.
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Killers have 1 challenge before the basement to destroy / damage pallets/gens 30 times. Then it's 5 hooks in the basement. As fun as it is to play survivor as I have been doing all these luck-based tome challenges, I should be allowed to work on my killer challenges without having to stop altogether.
If they REALLY want us to not use it, they'd announce it in-game via message and auto complete (or at least allow progress past) the challenge rather than forcing us to do only the basement challenge.
See my above comment for how nice survivors are about letting me do a challenge when the game was already over and why killers may not care there's a glitch while doing their challenge.
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For real. It’s annoying having to have the game completely out of your hands at that point.
Welp, back to running Boil Over. Believe me, it actually saves you from the basement sometimes.
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