Its not toxic
If I hook a survivor and the other three are near the hook, I'm staying in that area. Its not toxic to stay where survivors are. I will not go across the map where there's no gens or survivors. I get camping is bad but I'm not leaving the hook if all of you are in my face. A message from literally every killer player
Edit: well this got everyone miffed now didn't it, before you reply that I'm a toxic sweaty killer main I have to say I play killer AND survivor smh. Even if I was a killer only player that doesn't change the point. #notallsurvivors since it wasn't understood that this post was only directed at those who get salty over this.
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many survivors called me a camper in cases like this, idk why they think killer will leave a hook where 3 survivors is near
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Of course it is not,they forced you to do that.They'll camping the hook too soo..
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I came across that earlier. 1 person was already dead and I hooked another one right after hooking the survivor I literally saw 2 different sets up scratch marks going to that area. At the end of the game I get called a face camper even tho I wasn’t immediately in front of the hook and was patrolling the area looking for the other 2. Same thing tho why would I leave, there’s no gens being worked on and both of them are nearby why leave
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Even if they aren't by the hook and you just want to camp, it's still not toxic. Someone not liking something doesn't make it toxic.
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... A message from literally every killer player, and every reasonable survivor player as well.
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They might be mistaken in thinking protecting the Generators is the main goal.
Generators are only good to visit cause Survivors, the true main goal, have to be on them constantly.
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I remember I hooked somebody on Coal Tower, near the main building. When I went to leave, I spotted all three waiting on the second floor of the building, so I didn't leave. They tbagged and pointed at me and were salty about it later. Like they really expect me to respect their blunders and give them an edge... when they would never do the same for me. Best way to deal with dummies like that is to ignore them and let them learn from their own mistakes.
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Had a scratched mirror game like this the other day. One person dead, one on hook and one gen left to go. If these guys had so much as TOUCHED a gen, id be forced to act. As it stands... we pretty much had a staring contest until their buddy died. In a situation like this where you refuse to pressure the killer by doing gens, the only one on a timer is the guy on the hook.
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Surely common sense would tell them otherwise, though.
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Idk, every now and then, i do hear someone saying Killers should patrol Generators, keyword being "should".
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A bunch of people hating something does. Camping is toxic, teabagging is toxic, clicky clicky is toxic.
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Depends on circumstance.. If a gen's already popped, all survivors are alive and you see 2 people on gens with BBQ (i.e. survivors are pressuring you), I think you definitely should patrol generators even if you know there is a survivor near the hook, but I think that's just common sense. If you know for a fact that no one is on a gen (or heading towards a gen), then there's not really anywhere to go.. It's the survivors' job to pressure you.
Similarly,survivors will just pump out gens when the killer hasn't put enough pressure on them and they just don't have anything else to do.
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That wasn't my point.
Survivors don't get to dictate how Killers should play, and vice versa.
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I completely agree with you. I was just adding my 2 cents to the argument, based on a situation I was in a while ago - hooked a survivor, saw a set of scratch marks right in front of the hook and 2 people on barbecue on gens. I thought if I found and chased the person who was clearly waiting for the unhook, I'd be pressuring the other 2 to leave their gens and come for the save. Long story short, I ended up chilling around the hook looking for that 1 survivor, 2 gens popped by the time I finally managed to get a hit on them. 3 escaped, bar the hooked one, who ended up dying there on their second hook.
After the game I got messaged the exact same words you used "you should have patrolled gens" and all I could think was "fair enough, you're absolutely right".
That's why I said that it depends on circumstance and even post-game salt could be used as genuine constructive criticism.
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"No, no, no. You're supposed to play the game like this"
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No, a bunch of people hating something doesn't make it toxic. Camping is not toxic. It's an intended tactic to play the game, with actual counters. There's even perks to facilitate it. It's a legitimate tactic.
Even if 10,000 people hate it, it's still not toxic.
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Wow! I think I'm the only one that leaves the hook and let them get the save😄😆😂🤣
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No, you're not. I do that as well. I'm just saying - camping is not toxic, should you decide to do it.
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Go for it, that's what borrowed time is for. I couldn't care less if you go across the map.
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I'm not saying camping is toxic if you want to camp do it.
In my eyes if you camp you're a bum
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I mean, in the original DBD killer tutorial videos, they literally demonstrated the Trapper camping the hooked survivor.
That would be like me saying "if you loop, you're a bum" - "if you tea bag, you're a bum" - "if you do your objective, you're a bum"
See how silly that sounds? That's you right now ;)
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If you think so m8.
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Whatever you say man. You're the one just standing there doing nothing looking for an easy win
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As long as you dont get into any chase with those survivors its just toxic camping. Nothing else.
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Camping, in any case, is not toxic.
If camping wins a killer the game, it's the survivors fault. The counter is to do the gens and leave, which is EASILY done in the time a survivor is on the hook.
If a killer somehow gets an easy win from camping a hooked survivor, it literally takes the survivors throwing the game.
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The thing is. If you bm me. I will get you out of the game first. I be face camping ya. But befor i leave that area. Im always looking around for the other survivors. And most of time i get call camper. But i dont really care. Im not there to please them. Im there to earn point and get my kills.
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Thanks for the education lesson.
I rather earn my kills then them being handed to me
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Again, if a group of survivors all die to a camper, they pretty much have to throw the game. Survivors cause camping by falling for it. 100% of the time. If it didn't work so god damn always because survivors are so damn naive and careless most of the time, killers would do it less.
Camping works because survivors ALLOW it to work. Blame survivors, not killers.
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As a survivor main I agree with you 100%. Camping is a winning strategy only when survivors make it a winning strategy. If survivors would just do gens when a killer camps it would quickly become a horrible strategy. Killers would generally only get 1 or 2 kills per match by camping.
Instead over half of survivors want to be a hero by grabbing someone off the hook regardless of whether or not the killer is standing there or not. I've said it before. I HATE camping, but not because killers do it. I hate it because it makes 50% or more of my matches nothing more than watching 2 or 3 other survivors play hook carousel with the killer. Of course that makes it significantly more difficult for those of us who actually have the goal of escaping.
When I see survivors playing that way I'm rooting for the killer every single time.
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Dude I'm not blaming anyone I said if you want to camp then do it. But in my eyes it's just a bum move.
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You were the one literally talking about "wanting to earn your kills" and "camping is looking for an easy win". I merely stated that if an easy win happened, or killers had kills handed to them by camping, it was the survivors who ALLOWED it to happen. Don't call killers bums for using a viable strategy. Call survivors bums for being careless enough to make it viable.
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Exactly. It the survivors fault. Not the killers. So it doesnt give the survivors ne kind of rights to trash talk to a killer. When they allowed it to happen
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You like to camp
I don't like to camp
How about we leave it like that
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I never once said I like to camp. If you're going to respond, perhaps read what you're responding to.
You don't have to camp to know camping is a viable strategy and why.
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Wow I never knew. Thanks for letting me know!
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I agree. I would've written something as thoughtful as this had OP not been biased.
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You're defending it so you like to camp. And you said it's only a winning strategy if the survivors are rushing the hook.
I'm entitled to my opinion about camping
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I mean, if you're going to put words in my mouth, sure. It just makes your argument look weaker than it already was (which I didn't think was possible).
I don't have to camp to know why it's a viable strategy. You're entitled to your opinion, yes. You're also just entitled.
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You're right, you're not toxic and assuming all are around the hooked person, and at least 1 or 2 others will know it. You are camping if no one is "Obviously" around, meaning they were dumb enough to run in close, or hide in the open, around a corner whimpering, etc. Camping the hook is when no one is there, or you don't know someone is there, like they were in Chili range when someone hooked, and you had to search every square inch to find him/her. Camping is essentially when you are intentionally watching that hook, waiting for someone to pull the survivor off so you can either go right back after them, or the person who saved them. Saving is as much part of the game as killing is. Killers seem to want to punish you though for it.It makes 0 sense when a killer say's "It's my job to kill so you should do something else!" when that is part of the survivors job as well.
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You said it right here
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I mean, the killers only objective is to kill survivors. That's literally their only objective.
I did say its a winning strat if survivors let it be one, but I fail to see the part where I said I camped. I assume that's just a broad generalization to try and strengthen your paper thin argument.
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You're the one arguing with me. I know how to counter a camper and all that bullshit. I came here to say one thing and you're the one that jump on me.
I didn't say camping is toxic.I said I don't camp and you keep jumping on me with your bullshit.
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I always blame the other survivors for running the killer right next where I'm hooked. It's happened so many times that i'm hooked in the basement and this person is running from the killer in the killer shack, the others just stay around in case he goes somewhere else but don't dare coming because the running survivor keeps the killer in the shack... so annoying, just leave.
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I never said it wasn't their only objective, just as a survivors only objective is to get out. But the points you earn aren't based solely on the objective of each side. the game doesn't give you 8k points for killing a survivor, just as the game doesn't give survivors 32k just for escaping. You earn points based off the actions you take. The unfortunate thing is this is where the points become lopsided, A killer can just camp a hook and earn 20k+ points, while a survivor, if they do just gens and escape with probably earn 13k if they max on objective. if you want a better score, and more bloodpoints, you have to try and save, heal, run the killer, all of which is hampered by a killer just camping. However a camping killer doesn't have to move. Survivors come in range and he gets points for survivor found, close enough to initiate a chase, and he gets points, He chases people for a second away from the hook and he gets points. Point wise, the game is definitely in the killers favor. He can camp and do almost nothing and get points.
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Unless its facecamping its fine.
as survivor I get what happens in certain cases and most of the time is survivors fault for not having gen pressure or being dumb in cooperation.
in fact I get this to happen way less when I get to rank 1
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Killers need to camp if a swf group won't leave the hook; don't dm me about face camping if you were all trying to get your buddy off the hook all at once. How is this biased? Stating common knowledge isn't bias.
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Frfr and then you get fed and it's the worst
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But that's not camping, A SWF trying to save their buddy with all 4 around, making noise, leaving scratch marks, that's not even close to camping. That's them being dumb and something that you should punish them over. Understand what actual camping is, and when people complain, well if you know what it is, then flock them. Let them be salty for dancing around the hook.
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it's simple if you don't hear a survivor and you don't see scratch marks then leave the hook but if you see scratch marks then fine stay there trying to look around but don't stand in front of the hook and right before you leave just look around quick and then leave
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