Remove all NEGATIVE effects in addons (Some addons will be needed negative thinks)
Like trapper and hag... the others killers deserve that, as u know a lot of addons brown to purple have downsides, that was i guess really unfair because a lot of addons (survivor and killer) don't have any negative effect
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Yes some killers have unnecessary nerfs for their addons and powers. For example, as if wraith is not weak enough, when he is coming out of cloak, he can get stunned because of flashlights. Again as if freddy is not weak enough, he has debuffs in his dream world like fog and dark layout.
Fatigue for nurse and negative features of her addons, hatch reload for huntress make sense but having debuffs with obvious weak killers is just dumb.
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@Delfador said:
Yes some killers have unnecessary nerfs for their addons and powers. For example, as if wraith is not weak enough, when he is coming out of cloak, he can get stunned because of flashlights. Again as if freddy is not weak enough, he has debuffs in his dream world like fog and dark layout.Fatigue for nurse and negative features of her addons, hatch reload for huntress make sense but having debuffs with obvious weak killers is just dumb.
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totally agree, the wraith have more negative effects in every addon, like the nurse
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Removing these would put killers in a better state. I even think there should be a 25% chance your addons wont be depleted after the match for every kill you make. As a survivor main as long as I escape I pretty much have my items and addons forever.
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I agree with removing the downsides but not the 25% chance to keep the items. That is why killers get way more BP and tbh, I don't to play every single match against a killer with a R/UR combo.Shadoureon said:Removing these would put killers in a better state. I even think there should be a 25% chance your addons wont be depleted after the match for every kill you make. As a survivor main as long as I escape I pretty much have my items and addons forever.
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@Shadoureon said:
Removing these would put killers in a better state. I even think there should be a 25% chance your addons wont be depleted after the match for every kill you make. As a survivor main as long as I escape I pretty much have my items and addons forever.i forgot that, the survivor can have infinite toolbox or med... etc until they die
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@ZombieGenesis said:
I'd also be quite pleased if they removed the "increase the dark mist" addons from the dark web. Useless to a killer and would leave more room for actually usable addons.yeah me too hope the devs read this
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Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️3
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@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
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90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.JAZC_CR said:@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
it scares you?Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.3 -
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@Visionmaker said:
JAZC_CR said:@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
it scares you?
90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.
Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.
nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Nurse needs a rebalancing altogether, IMO. She has a high skill cap but once you achieve it she becomes a murder machine.rebalancing? in movement speed i guess
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JAZC_CR said:
@Visionmaker said:
JAZC_CR said:@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
it scares you?
90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.
Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.
nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here
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@Visionmaker said:
JAZC_CR said:@Visionmaker said:
JAZC_CR said:
@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
i say for all killer no only for nurse... soit scares you?
90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.
nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here
Lol. Pack it up people, leave the balancing to this guy.
Devs, hire this man.
i guess u have problems with her, but me and my friends play normally against vs her
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Terrible idea. Some addons would be WAY too strong. Especially for the Nurse and her addons, that would be completely ridiculous.
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Visionmaker said:Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
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Granted, iri hatchet were a big issue if I remember correctly. Buuuuut huntress has been getting nerfed left and right and there is a lot of discussion on whether or not she is even top 3 anymore (especially because hag is VERY strong right now if you play her with equal dedication, but is also a lot more fun and balanced)
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Dr_doom_j2 said:Visionmaker said:Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
Stop being so denseMaybe they should be tailoring changes for each killer instead of callously getting rid of checks and balances across the board.Stop being so dense.2 -
Some need negatives so that their addons wont be too strong.
Sure , remove the negatives but then don't forget to nerf some of the positives.1 -
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@ZombieGenesis said:
I think it's mostly her add ons. A good nurse with 4 blinks? Forget about it. She's the one killer where killer skill trumps survivor skill. Which is okay but she does it to an unfun level.i agree but the other addons, remove the negarive effects
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Yup, killers can't get anything positive without negatives, remember that. That's only for survivors.i forgot that for one moment, every survivor addon aonly have possitive thinks.... only 3 or 4 have negative thinks
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You really are dense, you can't help it my though, I get it. Did that have to be explicitly implied for you to get it, because that's pretty much what I said yet you still missed it.Visionmaker said:Dr_doom_j2 said:Visionmaker said:Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️
Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
Stop being so denseMaybe they should be tailoring changes for each killer instead of callously getting rid of checks and balances across the board.Stop being so dense.
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Freddy's add-ons definitely need the drawbacks removed. It makes most of his yellow and white add-ons pointless. White block should be -1s, yellow -1.5, green -2, and purple -2.5. Claws/Rake/Paint Thinner need a rework too (maybe it makes DW darker for survivors or something). Dresses shouldn't increase transition at all.
However some add-ons are REALLY strong so they need drawbacks. Class Photo is super powerful, so it should have a drawback to using it. +2s transition is a lot, maybe drop it to +1s transition (which in this case isn't a complete nerf since it's also giving you more time that you can see the others since it lasts the duration of transition). Red Pain Brush is strong too, but instead of drawbacks I would just rather it only affects his terror radius in dream world and nothing else (no reduced movement and no reduced transition).
Wraiths new add-ons don't have drawbacks IIRC. I think Wraith will be in a good spot once his update comes out.
Myers is another one where drawbacks are important. Judith's Tombstone is probably among the top 5 strongest add-ons in the game (along with tuft of hair) so it should slow you down considering you can just instant-kill someone.
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Lol @ Shape hitting Evil Within 3 in 10 seconds with Fragrant Tuft of Hair & Judith's Tombstone.
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Well yeah, but i'm just laughing at that possibility.
Some Survivor: "Alright, found a genera-"
Shape hits Evil Within 3 and kills someone
"...Oh."
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@thesuicidefox said:
Freddy's add-ons definitely need the drawbacks removed. It makes most of his yellow and white add-ons pointless. White block should be -1s, yellow -1.5, green -2, and purple -2.5. Claws/Rake/Paint Thinner need a rework too (maybe it makes DW darker for survivors or something). Dresses shouldn't increase transition at all.However some add-ons are REALLY strong so they need drawbacks. Class Photo is super powerful, so it should have a drawback to using it. +2s transition is a lot, maybe drop it to +1s transition (which in this case isn't a complete nerf since it's also giving you more time that you can see the others since it lasts the duration of transition). Red Pain Brush is strong too, but instead of drawbacks I would just rather it only affects his terror radius in dream world and nothing else (no reduced movement and no reduced transition).
Wraiths new add-ons don't have drawbacks IIRC. I think Wraith will be in a good spot once his update comes out.
Myers is another one where drawbacks are important. Judith's Tombstone is probably among the top 5 strongest add-ons in the game (along with tuft of hair) so it should slow you down considering you can just instant-kill someone.
don't forget wraith his addons sucks or the nurse addons, her addons punishment her so much is u use alone the addons or without alone
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@JAZC_CR said:
Like trapper and hag... the others killers deserve thatDev McClain already said in one of his streams that he was going to rework negative effects on perks, and he mentioned Trapper and Hag specifically. He said he eventually wants to get to all the killers. You just have to wait for them.
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@Visionmaker said:
Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦♂️Her perks are going to be tough to work on because her power is strong without add ons already. They might have to adjust her power first, before altering anything else, otherwise it would just be another bandaid fix.
Then again, maybe bandaid fixes is all they're going for at this point.
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I'd be down for this. Obviously some Killers and add-ons shouldn't be affected like Nurse and Judith's Tombstone/Fragrant Tuft of Hair Myers. I would love to have my 75% increased shock therapy range without the slower charge time on zappy boi.
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Yeah wonder when another 2 years ?And what the fkt up before achiwe to this point.steezo_de said:@JAZC_CR said:
Like trapper and hag... the others killers deserve thatDev McClain already said in one of his streams that he was going to rework negative effects on perks, and he mentioned Trapper and Hag specifically. He said he eventually wants to get to all the killers. You just have to wait for them.
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Every single Wraith add on has already been reworked in the next update. (3 weeks)
Freddy is apparently next. (9 weeks)
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I absolutely support this on Leatherface.
He just needs anything at this point
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@steezo_de said:
@JAZC_CR said:
Like trapper and hag... the others killers deserve thatDev McClain already said in one of his streams that he was going to rework negative effects on perks, and he mentioned Trapper and Hag specifically. He said he eventually wants to get to all the killers. You just have to wait for them.
very nice indeep
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@Peanits said:
For most, I agree. A brown add-on doesn't need a downside.Though for the super powerful ones, I'm okay with them having downsides to make them more fair. I shudder to think what scratched mirror would be like with no downsides.
i agree with some addons have negative thinks, but all the addons i guess is just unfair
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I'd settle for them fixing Leatherface's chili addons, as they currently don't add any effect, positive or negative0
