if the developers buff weak killers, as fast as the nerf strong killers game would be fun
first the nerf nurse, not even a month has passed spirit is next, means that developers are able to respond quickly, but apparently only in situations that are important for the game (survivors fun btw)
Why not better buff other killers to playable level, this means every killer should be in match power role, this is only what I want, survivors should struggle, have stategy, plan, working as a team to defeat killer, instead this game looks like it's not 1 vs 4 but 1 vs 1 when one survivor can LOOP killer for 5 gens ect.it depends on survivor mistakes ect. everyone know this, it's real tragedy
Next patch: note: Killers are not allow to have fun./Pretty good job so far
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Killers are already not allowed to have fun, sadly. They clearly don't want people playing it, that's why I've given up and moved to survivor. Got to tank 2 in just a few days, it's so easy compared to how stressful and difficult killer is.
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i'm just bored of playing killer bc in this game there are so few playable killers that it's ridiculous
(forgive me the comments "play something else" "play survivor" ect. u can keep this for u
just make more killer playable
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It'd be more fun for everyone. I'd love to actually see a nice balance of every killer in my games. Instead, at red ranks, you generally only run into the same killers, so survivors whine and complain that the few killers capable of dealing with them they see all the time are OP and they get nerfed. Obviously any killer can be viable, just like you can have 4 potatoes as survivors, if you are good. But just because something can do well, doesn't mean said thing is fine.
Here's the reality you need to accept: The devs are too afraid to balance their game because it continues to be successful. Obviously they're not afraid to tackle some more controversial things, but regardless. Look at Freddy, a basic concept killer that is strong. A good rework. Then look at Nurse, Legion, Trapper, Doctor. Their "reworks" just end up making things worse half the time. Imagine being reworked twice and still being garbage.
At least when I play survivor now I'm never stressed, I never care, I never have the same mentality that comes across to me in a 1v4 scenario. Sure, being camped or tunneled sucks, but it's nothing compared to that sometimes lol
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"Quickly" to nerf killers. Sure. Thats why they just understood how stupid OP Nurse and Spirit was (even though Spirit still is), or how annoying it was to play against "No gen Freddy" after such a "short" time. LOL
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Imagine thinking Nurse and Spirit were OP
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Where is the LOL or Vote Down button when you need it
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Buff Trapper
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Where is the biased button, cause I need to create 1m account and spam it on you, lol.
Now srsly who is gonna take you seriously with that name?
Anyone with at least 1 brain cell knows nurse and spirit were ridiculously strong.
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Hello,
This would, on someone who is learning a lot about balancing cause I wanna try to help balance out games, not change fun to certain people.
Take the legion rework, sone people found that fun, others found it boring. Nurse can be the same here along with all the other killers. This would, however create various killers that would be played in red ranks
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Yes the real reason why survivor's cry about spirit nurse is bc they meet this killers EVERY SINGLE MATCH if all killers are on similar level the game be more healthy for everyone, like new nurse is perfect example of this, i believe as a nurse main shes stronger than spirit, freddy but SHES NOT FUN TO PLAY AS, I would rather play this other two killer instead of nurse, shes annoying to play as, constantly looking at her cooldown bar, its just NOT FUN even when u 4k against legacy players in SWF
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Ok @laurelstroodle . Why is your name exactly more "serious" than @Rin_is_my_waifu ? Just askin.
Nurse and spirit were ridiculously strong, but the nurse rework made her unfun for most players and basically impossible to learn for newer players.
SWF is on the same level than old omega nurse and gen grabber spirit btw.
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I mean, you can't ignore that in the past they have given big buffs/reworks to:
- Wraith
- Freddy
- Trapper
- Hag
- Legion (talking about the most recent speed buffs, I know not everyone will agree)
and Doctor's is upcoming. I don't think it's fair at all to say they've only been nerfing strong killers.
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I think they should fix maps instead of buffing killers.
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They were ridiculously strong idk man imo omega nurse in my eyes was more balanced than PBB Spirit bc without Spine Chill or no grass around gen u're just dead but that's only my opinion, nurse now yes shes unfun even for nurse mains with +1300hrs on her so idk what must feel new players LoL
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Yes, I just agree at some point but still this killers cant win against optimal teams, bc u know if i dont have killer who cant deal with the most sweaty squad why I should play him, to be on mercy other players?
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Every killer is "playable" if you want to take the term literally, but a lot of them do need buffs. Killers like wraith, Trapper, Clown desperately need a couple of QoL improvements, and killers like legion and bubba need to just straight up get reworked. The recent buff to legion really didn't solve anything. Sure the faster move speed is great and useful, but the ability just doesn't do anything impactful at all, it's a joke.
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A lot of the weaker killers only need small number changes to be more viable. But a lot of the unfun of games comes from bad map design.
A lot of maps are way to big, have some form of god window or just have a multitude of strong loops that spawn into each other than can be used for a 5 gen chase.
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Problem is that their idea of balance is adding MORE loops, but slightly smaller, and have a long safe side and a short unsafe side... aka they are still safe loops.
I still cant stand springwood with safe pallets in the school and buildings, and a smattering of loops that lead into each other around the grounds... they hardly changed anything.
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Springwood is a balanced map, yes there are a few safe pallets bit the majority of them are mindgamable. Having 0 safe pallets wouldn't be any good.
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but why in horror game should be safe zones for survivors idk, this is ridicolous idea, and people think "nah...that's ok" god...
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Nurse addons were strong..spirit was debatable but now theres really 0 room to whine
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This being a horror game has nothing to do with balance, after 100 hours this game will never be scary anymore, so what's your point?
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Spirit remained in her busted state for over a year.
Nurse remained in busted for over 2 years.
No, they're not fast to nerf anything. The only fast nerf they gave for a killer was Oni, and guess what, they also buffed Ghostface extremely fast when he was garbage in the PTB. The devs are getting faster with balance changes in general and that's a good thing.
Gotta drop some facts to see if the echo chamber gets a bit quieter, because oh boy, this ######### gets old fast.
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*Nurse remained busted for 3 years
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Maybe for killers. Killers are nerfed so that the game can be more fun. The game is not fun if you have no chance of escaping or counterplay. Killers will get buffed once both sides are satisfied. Buffing low tiers doesn't make high tiers less oppressive in an asymmetric game.
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Funny. Got something serious to add?
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Spirit became better and more fun for me after the “nerf”.
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Ever played in a coordinated 4man on r1? It's easy. Really easy.
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I think fastest nerf may go to old Freddy ;)
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Depends on map/killer, but that could just be me. Others might be having the same experience every game.
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Yeah I mean those were barely nerfs in the first place.
It upsets me a bit that Spirit took a year to get touched and only got a slap in the wrist while they didn't let us have fun Oni for long. Oh well.
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If there are no safe pallets might as well just not play. Having a couple in a match like the shack pallet is fine as long as all the others are weak.
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Nurse basekit is STILL utterly broken. But yuh know. All the things you stated. I'm just gonna do like the rest and pretend that I didn't see them, and only listen to the people who will nod and agree with me.
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