Why do some killers lie about this...

Well thats Why you go for safe hooks or use BT and you suppose the killer will always go back at the hook when you save somebody.

you cant e pect the killer to make you unhook and heal. Preventing that is basically a ein condition.

Same, been a staple in my builds since 2017. Kindred Addicts Anonymous when?

Sometimes are scratchmarks not necessary.

I remember as example on 1 match, were I had saw the backside of a mag behind a car on the autohaven map, while I was hooking a survivor.

What do you do as killer in such a sitation?

You try to catch the mag, but you also try to not move too far away from the hook, because there is a high chance that other survivors will also try to unhook the hooked survivor while you are running behind that mag^^ (or hooking her also somewhere up).

TL:DR Some killers may have not even need to scratchmarks, because they have directly saw the survivor :).

I have had a few situations where i got accused of camping when crouching as the pig, and we just facechecked eachother. My last few games have had me getting 3-4 kills, NOT because i camped or tunneled or whatever, it was all pure chance and following clues.

Disclosure I am a garbage tier 19 nub killer

EDIT: Also altruism is insane, so many ppl could get away if they didnt throw themselves at a hook

I honestly see about 50/50 as far as salt goes. Survivors complain about killers and their perks. Killers complain about survivors and their perks. Its almost like people forget this is a game and take it too seriously.

It's not just you, could easily be other survivors leaving scratches within view and tipping off the killer that someone else is coming. Another thing is when you hook someone and don't see anyone with bbq, tipping you off that everyone and their mother is trying to go for a save. There's a lot of potential reasons to not leave a hook if you know someone's going to unhook the second you walk away and then you just turn back around with the rescuer(or rescuee if that's your thing, whatever,) having a solid headstart. Scratch marks are definitely the most common thing that make me stay and search around the hook though.

Remember that you're not the only survivor, nor the only one who saves. I play both sides, but technically main killer, and when someone accuses me of camping, its hard to figure out which of the 8 or so hooks they're speaking of, especially when the whole team is pretty altruistic.

That being said, I don't doubt some people use this as an excuse to camp, but it's probably people in a <1% minority and their behavior likely can't be changed.

Let's talk about the survivors that yell at you for camping end game, that makes you go from a 1K to a 2K+, just because they wanted to be altruistic and act like tough #########. The survivor that then tells you you're bad, despite their death/teammates being that players own fault. Once again, likely a <1% minority. (They may be seen more due to the 4 vs. 1 nature of the game)

If I camp, it's either:

A: I know someone's nearby, so I'm staying close (not facecamping though, more of a tight patrol)

B: I'm already losing, going for at least a kill

C: The person's been a problem during the match, I NEED them gone

Marks in trees, rocks, and walls are pretty big giveway but if I have BBQ on, hook someone, and don't see anyone when I do my spin check I know you're near by and of course I'm going to do a quick check. I'd be stupid not to ignore that hint

I agree. Especially if the killer is running bbqac. If he doesn’t see an aura ( especially if he isn’t cannibal or billy) he pretty much knows if you aren’t in a locker you are close by. I think most assume cannibal & billy run this religiously. It all depends on perk build and add ons.

the trouble is within the survivor main community, you can be 50 meters from the hook and they still consider it camping. Only if you run to the far corner of the map, kick a gen, wait for the unhook and full heal is it not camping. I’ve been accused of being a noob for killing 4 survivors too quickly. Told “that’s not how you play” and “we have to do the gens”. If 4 players with add ons, perks, offerings can’t manage to get 1 teammate out alive it isn’t the killers fault. It’s theirs.

Face camping is rare. Provided as a survivor you don’t play like an #########. I have never encountered it at red rank, rarely purple & seldom green. It’s more of a yellow brown thing. Of course I also play with respect. I don’t tea bag and I never DC.

This exactly. I don't get face camped much, but if your toxic you deserve it.

Survivor main that plays killer occasionally here! I have never heard nor used said excuse. I never sweep the area unless i see survivors near or see scratch marks, then after a few seconds of looking i leave. I know the pain of being camped and tunneled so I avoid that at all costs to make the game fun for both parties.

Just because you can't see people with bbq doesn't mean they are at the hook. You can position yourself against a gen if you pay attention to where hooks are compared to where the downed survivor is or just get in a locker. I tend to use the gen to hind my arua and if I can't I usually just let it happen. I swear sometimes I question if any one understands the game mechanics.

Like others said, challenge him for a chase and you'll see if he's really camping or just looking for someone he thinks is nearby.

But if the killer says that he thought someone was there and you actually were. Does it really matter why he though it?

I play both. You have to give me a reason not to camp you. When I play killer I leave extremely fast if I start losing gens...or ruin. (You lose pretty quickly if you camp) But on the other hand as survivor now I understand just how killers know where I'm at. Without checking the perks at the end of the game you can't learn to counter what they're doing. Maybe they saw 2 ppl with bbq from across the map. Even without perks you can hear people breathing and footsteps and stuff. We know you're there.