General Discussions
General Discussions
Some data on Legion's performance since the Oni update
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Most agree that the recharge timer needs to go. So again, it should happen.
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:facepalm:
Yes so many nurse players on console that they drag down the stats of her, keep pretending as if it is the case. You know pre nerf, they didnt affect stats enough to drag her down, post nerf ofc it is due to console nurse and her 80% pick rate there. Lmao There are so few nurse players on console that they have no significance on the data whatsoever.
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Hope you devs are hearing yourself.
Legion needs a full rework. I have said this before. NO amount of buffs or nerfs will make him better.
Too little nerfs makes him weak, too little buffs makes him broken again.
He needs a rework. Face the facts. Stop trying to take the lazy way out
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That's fair. I don't think we're majorly in disagreement then. Someone else assumed (or wrote as though they assumed) the stats weren't in good faith so I just wanted to clarify
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The average kill rate stats pre-nerf did not lump all platforms together, so saying that the console rates did not drag her down isn't a supportable statement.
If you look at the last-known stats of her before she was nerfed, her average kill rates on PS4 and Xbox were at a dismal 40% across all ranks. This was back when there was only 3 platforms to keep track of. Now we have four (PC, PS4, Xbox, Switch). Since three of those are console, where Nurse is expected to perform poorly in general, it is not unreasonable that those three platforms combined would indeed have a noticable impact on Nurse's overall performance.
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People asking for Legion rework are people who want to have every killer enjoyable for THEM. You should understand there are lots of people who enjoy current Legion playstyle although he is not as strong as top 5 killers. Freddy was weak but he was fun to play (for many people), rework made him strong but less fun to play (for many people). There are 17 killers in the game, just choose your style ;)
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It's all good
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Which cooldown? XD
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Guess he mean the frenzy cd. Frenzy had always a cd, but in the first version, you could use it whenever you wanted.
The only drawback was that if you have started frenzy with as example only 20% "refill" of the cd from frenzy, that you could only use a frenzy then with a 20% of its full duration.
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We talk about faitugue one or the cooldown which allows you to use the power? XD
Sorry, I'm tired
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I guess we talk here just about that he likes to use frenzy whenever he like. So, without the need of a full (100%) frenzy cd.
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Exactly, what's the point of releasing this data to the community without context? What does it actually acomplish?
I know the dev team has the context to interpret the meager data they show us and we do not, I never said those posts using the data disclosed are valid.
What I am saying is releasing data without context, and then shutting down any attempts of trying to interpret that data with personal game experience WITHOUT providing the context or reason as to why they're shutting it down is completely scummy.
Now, we get another data post WITHOUT context where we're just supposed to take the devs word for it that THEIR assessment of things is correct.
It's not about the post itself, it's about the principle. The data posts are completely useless and irrelevant without more context or explanation for said data. It just makes those who play the characters in question and disagree with what the data show feel like their opinion and concerns are invalid.
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I'm sorry for inflating the kill rates, guys.
It's my bad... I'll start letting more survs go. I'll take a break from dbd so we can see the real data. I apologize for being so good :(
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So does this mean the devs are justified in ignoring our complaints about Legion? Does this mean they aren't going to be getting the respect they deserve instead of the half assed changes they received that weren't even what the communityy asked for? I'm specifically talking about the Mangled and Broken add-ons, we asked them to be on hit and you guys thought that was funny and didn't do that.
Does this mean Legion is fine?
Is Legion going to get that 3 second stun that everyone has been begging for for almost a year now? It's the one thing we really need and that still hasn't been implemented, this data is not good enough to deny something so simple that makes playing Legion feel good and easy to use. Frankly this post feels more like a stop complaining post and that your choices were justified.
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my boy legion is getting some kills
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I don't know about that. They still have almost no pressure against a heavily organized and sweaty team.
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Very few killers can pressure teams like that. It's not problem of Legion, but the problem of SWF not being balanced and OP against every killer.
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Nurse has always been statistically the lowest kill rate across all ranks, even before the nurse nerf.
It's her red ranks PC kill rate that always showed how busted she was before the nerf
She now sits at 4-5% pick rate and 65% kill rate
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its success for me or other most players in my region at red
she still being top tier next to spirit
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I agree, but legion suffers more proportionally than others do.
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Well, it showed no consideration for console then. Since that is where she is still weakest.
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The adjustment was exactly as designed.
Nurse was a tier all her own, the platform Nurse's and people who haven't mastered her muddy the stats. She was beyond S++ if you knew her
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The bottom is the bottom.
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The thread is about Legion, and yet...the same nurse mains try to make the thread all about Nurse.
She is still top tier. Get over it. She's not fun? Go play a different killer. What do you want? The devs to return her back to her own tier that no other killer could even get close to? Too bad. Learn to adapt.
I honestly can't believe some of the self-proclaimed nurse mains in here claiming she is "weak". Or survivors can "just run in a straight line". Like, if the survivors are just running in a straight line and you can't catch them, that's because you made a mistake. With old nurse you could get outplayed hard and still catch the survivor faster than an m1 killer would have been able to. That sort of imbalanced gameplay isn't coming back. The devs seem to have learned from the mistakes they made by creating old legion/old nurse.
Again, she ain't weak so don't even pretend she is. And if you don't think she is fun, don't play her. Freddy is really strong but I don’t find his gameplay fun, so I just don't play him.
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If only survivors had adapted. Nurse mains adapted in 2016 when she lost 1/3 of her basekit when survivors refused to adapt. When nurse mains adapted and got good, they cried for even more nerfs. Now we have an unplayable unfun double nerfed nurse. Nurse mains shouldn't have to adapt again.
The only thing ever unbalanced is high rank survivors against all killers besides old nurse. A SWF puts all other killers on a dog leash.
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