So, who thinks Deliverance and Borrowed Time should work together?
I believe it should, because I spend lots of my time unhooking others just to be left on the hook when I play solo. So I just want to be able to unhook myself and have a borrowed time hit to get away from the killer if need be. Normally I play with friends and they unhook but if I could do it safely myself it could work better. Since deliverance is an unhook why would borrowed time not work? What does everyone think?
P.S.: I play both sides fairly equally, rank 4 in both.
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Yes let's buff deliverance and borrowed time (again) before buffing weak survivor perks. Gigabrain idea my good lad.
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I don't think survivor perks needs buffs.
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Sole survivor, Vigil and no mither wants a word
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Lol, okay I get it other stuff needs buffs too but I was just thinking it would be good because it's an unhook.
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Sure. And let’s make Mad Grit give 100% cool down on missed attacks while a survivor is slugged since were ignoring requirements for perks to activate.
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If these perks got buffed the game will be a lot stressful for killers because it is DUCKING OP
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Absolutely not. These perks are very strong now. I don't see any point of that.
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is it immortal mode youre asking for?
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Well it's not like they haven't changed perks before.
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No. Wait for the killer to leave
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Lol that doesn't stop the killer from coming back fast
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No, not at all. There's enough second chances without being able to stack them on yourself.
The exact penalty of using Deliverance is that it makes you more vulnerable when you
screw over your teammates unhooking when they're coming for youtotally beat camper or some nonsense. Borrowed Time stacking with it would completely void that and turn it into "free survival points every match, consequence-free."4 -
I suppose that makes sence but if noone is coming for you, I don't wanna be forced to run kindred considering it's situational. I get left on first hook alot
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Kindred is far less situational than Deliverance.
It works on every hook, not just the first one.
It also gives your teammate the same benefit of safe rescues because of the information you get while they're hooked.
It doesn't get disabled by being the first person found.
It doesn't rely on a safe unhook first.
Deliverance doesn't even make much sense, you use it because you could get camped so nobody comes for you, but if you're being camped that early then they probably aren't going to give you a safe unhook to start with anyway.
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Stack DS with it...
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Then hoof it?
If you unhook and the killer makes it back in 3 seconds you unhooked with him too close
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Quote, yes but that's what Deliverance is made for. That's not what Borrowed Time is made for. And I am actually pretty sure that it will be more abused for toxicity then used for edge cases. Like DS is abused to get the invulnerability mode "I unhook into your face! Grab me and eat the stun, nuff time for me to unhook anyway". People would just jump from the hook into the killer face to make sure BT will not run out before they get hit.
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As a survivor that would be crazy op tbh, imagine someone running that alongside decisive strike and mettle of man lol you become ######### Jesus, they definitely shouldn't and won't work together bud trust me
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You are in favor of BT and Deliverance working together?
Sadly, I have to disagree because BT is a team perk, not an individual perk and besides, what's wrong with DS?
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What do you mean they don't work together? You can literally hook bomb with BT + Deliverance and get a free deliverance every time.
Deliverance is probably the best anti-basement perk that exists. You can trade for the person in the basement and just get yourself out with DS + Deliverance. Check these clips, I traded in the basement for this streamer and then deliverance out into a key escape for a 4 man out.
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No mither is fine, literally designed as a hard mode perk
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Oh hell no, let’s make deliverance broken near exits now
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How is it broken? If you are deliverancing yourself off near an exit gate, that just means the killer hasn't even hooked you the ENTIRE game, while you sacrificed an entire perk slot just for this moment.
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Right, let's give keep giving them to killers.
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I don’t understand, they don’t work together? Do you not activate Deliverance if you save with Borrowed Time?
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Nothing wrong with DS i use that too but I just think since it is a unhook perk it could be good yo work together.
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No, I get that. I do it all the time too! But I'm specifically talking about unhooking myself and getting borrowedtome for myself.
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You do activate deliverance if you save someone else with borrowed time. But I am talking about unhooking myself and getting borrowed time.
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Nope shouldn't work at all...
1) it would break the game
2) just bring a med-kit with styptic agent... you'll get the same effect
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The description for Borrowed Time clearly states that it only affects other Survivors. Not yourself. Bill ain’t selfish like that, he sacrifices himself to save your souls from The Entity.
If Borrowed Time doesn’t trigger for regular self unhooks, then why should it for Deliverance.
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Just run decisive strike.
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No Mither should be a bloodpoint perk. It has barely any function. It's like a ######### unbreakable and a ######### iron will as well as a hindrance in most situations other than a perma tier 3 myers so you have dead hard immediately. David King should just be the bloodpoint character. I feel like that's the only reason No Mither doesn't give a big bloodpoint bonus is because he already had We're Gonna Live Forever and they didn't want to double up. But the way I see it you're playing with an arm tied behind your back for big bloodpoint gains
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This is absurd.
This is exactly why mori’s need to be reworked. I feel like it should be on a timer the moment you have the opportunity to mori someone.
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if you run deliverance you'd better have d strike. no killer likes a kobe even if its guaranteed.
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They should try to do something about it in the endgame, because if the killer hooks you, it's practically game over. Some people have deliverance and use it in the endgame, but without decisive strike, it's useless. People only use deliverance if teammates don't or can't come to the rescue, and the killer is camping them. Deliverance itself is useless
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What if my ally's name is Ashy Slashy?
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*grumble*your a puppet...*grumble*
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Just run ds and unbreakable you'll be fine
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Well, hard mode or not, it should have a benefit for using it.
If devs keep making perks like this and they deny to rework/buff them, I expect them to never see the meta change.
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I am not a pro and I didn't play Death by daylight for quite a long time now but isn't it better to concentrate your perks on not getting hooked ? Because if you don't get hooked you don't have to worry about getting abandoned by your team.
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It should also work together with Head on for that matter so you can kobe in killer's face, stun him, get armor and still be able to escape.
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