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Monitor & Abuse. Worth it?

Member Posts: 681

I have 2200 shards so i need to be talked into this.

Do you like it? Is it worth it?

I mainly play hag. I would do a ruin/sloppy/nurses c/ m&a.

Any strong feelings for m&a? thx

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  • Member Posts: 681
    edited May 2019

    Sold! I sure wasn't dissapointed by a nurse's calling (last week?) @Poweas

  • Member Posts: 5,873

    @53nation you'll have a ton of fun. I've heard it's quite good on Spirit too.

  • Member Posts: 2,529

    Monitor & Abuse combined with Nurses's calling is nasty and extremely deadly combination. You can see healing outside your terroradius. High mobility or sneaky killers (Nurse, Spirit, Pig, Myers) can really capitalise on that.

  • Member Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2019

    Short killers like hag,freddy and legion it's amazing, stealth killers like pig and mikey good. Definitely more so for me on the short ones though (you say you play hag, then you won't regret it), they're less likely to be able to compensate by paying attention.

  • Member Posts: 458

    Its amazing how close you can get to survivors beforr they notice you. I use M&A on many of my builds.

  • Member Posts: 681

    Sounds almost like it's the difference between approaching a gen and seeing scratch marks vs approaching and seeing 2-3 ppl flee. Sounds fun

  • Member Posts: 1,367

    Isn't it kinda bad though while phasing since decreased terror radius means that Survivors can hear you phasing from further away?

  • Member Posts: 3,059

    M&A is amazing

  • Member Posts: 1,456

    It's a very good perk imo, low TR is always great for any killers and the better FOV helps at spotting people running around.

    Personally i use it on almost all my killers unless i can't afford the slot at all, i need it otherwise i get motionsick after 2 games of killer.

  • Member Posts: 15

    Would you say it's worth running on new Legion? Cuz of that huge terror radius now.

  • Member Posts: 5,897

    I can't say if it's worth it as I haven't gotten to use it yet. I can say I'm looking forward to trying it out.

  • Member Posts: 504

    Very worth it!

  • Member Posts: 814

    Its top tier perk

  • Member Posts: 3,059

    M&A with dead rabbit is amazing. Survivors won't notice you until you're right next to them XD

  • Member Posts: 23

    If I were you I'd find room for make your choice in your Hag build as well.

  • Member Posts: 939

    M&A = 16m terror radius Freddy = Absolutely Deadly.

  • Member Posts: 681

    @Akiro ya i can look into that. Swap out SB I'm guessing

  • Member Posts: 3,732

    I love the perk, especially on my Legion before the nerf. Though I still run it on them anyways. The F.O.V is lovely.

  • Member Posts: 224

    M&A is an awesome perk!

    I run it on my plague since it allows her to surprise survivors to land some easy vile purge leading into broken and then downed survivors.

  • Member Posts: 13,037

    The perk is lethal on small terror radius killers, such as myers and hag

  • Member Posts: 182

    Its a good perk. Actually it works suprisingly well on the new legion. Freddy/Hag can make most use out of it, especially with tinkerer or discordance.

  • Member Posts: 1,737

    It's good on Myers, but that's it.

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    It absolutely is and i can't recommend M&A enough. It's almost always amazing, and when it wasn't i still didn't regret having it. I personally have a hard time finding reasons to not use it in any build.

  • Member Posts: 2,773

    M&A is most definitely one of my favorite perks. That little extra distance you can get closer to survivors before they scatter makes a difference. Especially for killers like hag.

  • Member Posts: 681

    @blue4zion you changed your psn name but not forum!

    Btw if you couldn't tell.. I'M WATCHING YOU!

    Entity told me too..so it's fine.

  • Member Posts: 2,582

    Imo Monitor and Abuse is easily one of the best killer perks available. You won't always see it working but it can really make getting that first hit easier. Especially fun on Leatherface as of it lets you get within chainsaw range faster.

  • Member Posts: 1,911

    Its one of the most fun perks in the game. it can even work with doc using his ninja build. Its a perk you often using with killers who have built in anti loop or are hit and run.

  • Member Posts: 458

    Oh god yes. One of my favorite perks on any killer.

  • Member Posts: 204

    On killers with low tier radius is good. On Hag is really good.

    It's useless on Huntress and Freddy

    Can work on nurse and billy ( good combo with higher chainsaw movement speed addons)

  • Member Posts: 1,143

    I say it depends on killer if you run a killer like wraith I would go with shadowborn since he is already weak to flashlights an tr is not much an issue for him but all the others definitely need m&a

  • Member Posts: 650

    M&A in my opinion is a top tier killer perk.

  • Member Posts: 2,919

    Great perk on low terror radius killers. Amazing on Hag and Myers...it’s only really useful on Spirit if you use Prayer Beads (please don’t use them) otherwise she benefits more from Distressing.

    It can also give low mobility killers like Clown and Leatherface a better chance at catching immersed players.

    Billy can also heavily benefit from M&A.

  • Member Posts: 2,773

    oh um oof hi

    also I think I tried once for like 10 seconds but I couldn't figure out how to change the name on here.

  • Member Posts: 4,225

    Not as much as before but still good, because you can compensate your short hight with it a bit and you have extra Killer instinct radius during a chase.

  • Member Posts: 4,225

    I love M&A. For me the standard perk on Myers, but also great on Hag, Freddy, Legion and Spirit. Provides a fun build with Doc using M&A, TOTH, Any Hex, Discordance with the tape that gives you the 20m beam and the electrode (green).

  • Member Posts: 1,113

    Totally worth it specially on 24 meter TR killers

    Also dont forget the improved field of view, good against those survivors who like to crouch juke you

  • Member Posts: 3,919

    I've seen MnA do wonders on your average 32 meter TR killers, as the reduced TR means survivors cannot get as far as away as they normally would. Not to mention I've seen survivors "stealth away" right into the killer's arms because they couldn't quite tell where he was.

  • Member Posts: 83

    I just started using it on pig. It actually makes a huge difference. Her standard terror radius of 32m is usually just a bit too large to approach survivors on a gen and get a clean hit with her Ambush attack before a chase can begin. Reducing the terror radius to 24m basically saves a lot of time in chases. Also, combined with the add on Amanda's Letter, which allows pig to see survivors at 12m, the Ambush attack is pretty much inescapable.

  • Member Posts: 241
    edited December 2019

    Funny how it's a Doctor perk and he's like the only killer that doesn't benefit from it much, because you generally don't chase in treatment mode. I prefer a "my terror radius is half the map and you can't tell if I'm nearby or far away" build.

  • Member Posts: 7,976

    Hag already has a short terror radius, so makong it even shorter makes her very sneaky

  • Member Posts: 1,256
    edited December 2019

    Amazing for Hag, Nurse, and Spirit, and is used on Myers almost universally.

    An argument could be made for it being good on Huntress; while it doesn't affect her hum (22-45 meters?), it will affect her minimized terror radius, so you could pop up on people a bit easier. They will stop hearing the hum, and not immediately hear the terror radius.

  • Member Posts: 1,413

    Jeez, this is one OLD post

  • Member Posts: 2,919

    I don’t see how it is good on Spirit. You don’t want a smaller terror radius. She has no reason to sneak up on survivors. Not to mention that they can more easily hear your whooshing since her terror radius is so smaller. I find Distressing better on her since it’ll confuse survivors more often than M&A would. I wouldn’t use either though.

  • Member Posts: 1,256

    M&A + A Nurse's Calling.

    She can spot people closer and phase to them with less of a warning. Comparatively, this is easier to setup due to the husk retaining the TR. It makes her harder to predict.

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