Amanda should get a buff

@ChesterTheMolester said:
ShrimpTwiggs said:

@RotBb said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

Title: Amanda should get a buff

@RotBb said:

  I am not saying she needs a buff

Bruv, finish the sentence, or even read the title.

I read both. They're still very contradictory. But despite that, I agree. What I think would be a nice change is working on her lunge. Getting rid of the loud sound cue when she lunges would help more. I agree that if a survivor dies on the hook while wearing the trap, she should be able to pick it up. I like the idea of raising her view when crouching as well. As for MYC, it does tell you when it activates, right? After somebody rescues someone, you can see the timer start on the perk.

Thats not what @RotBb meant. Devour Hope lights up once you are far enough away, MYC doesnt.

Ah, that's true. Yeah, it would be better if you could tell when you're far enough away for it to work.

Literally the only buff the Pig needs is something to better deal with exhaustion perks. Either something that will cause exhaustion on a survivor without hitting them or something to extend her sprint attack so that it will outlast the survivor's Sprint Burst. (And by outlast, I mean just a second, maybe a second and a half longer so that if a survivor sprint bursts at the same time the pig does, the pig will still get a hit. If the survivor sprints away before the Pig, then the survivor will still get away.)

@Peanits said:
I could get behind some of these. Although the one I don't really like is decreasing the RBT time. It's not really meant to be a killing tool, it's meant to force that survivor off of generators or to prevent them from leaving. If anything, I would like to see a change that makes it not 100% RNG. It's infuriating when you stick a trap on someone and the very first box they search has the key they need. It would be nice if the first box was guaranteed not to have it, making it a minimum of two boxes searched to remove a trap.

not_queen confirmed in reddit questions and answers that she will receive a rework but there is no date.

@RotBb said:
ShrimpTwiggs said:

Title: Amanda should get a buff @RotBb said:   I am not saying she needs a buff

She doesn’t need a buff, but she deserves one. She’s not underpowered enough to be useless, but she’s still a little to weak. A hardcore player could be god tier with her, but its unlikely that they’d put in the effort with her current state.

I don't even know if a really good player can master her to that level. They can be > @ProfoundEnding said:

ShrimpTwiggs said:

Title: Amanda should get a buff

@RotBb said:

  I am not saying she needs a buff

It makes perfect sense. The OP says that Amanda doesn't NEED a buff, but she SHOULD get one. It isn't something that she NEEDS but something she would LIKE lol.

It's not that confusing. Also I screwed up when editing this.

They're still contradictory points though. It's pretty much saying "I'm not saying she needs a buff, but she should get a buff." Those statements clash, thus creating confusion. It makes sense, but it's still convoluted. I knew what you meant because, like you said, it's not that confusing, but I wanted to make that comment for a joke. Like I said, I agree with you. She should be buffed. I think her lunge falls short and being able to see when you're a good enough distance from a hook for MYC to work is a good change. I'm not sure about less time for her RBT though. Like Peanits said, they're designed to make the survivor waste as much time as possible.

Dwight_Confusion said:

The Pig? A buff?

Sure. Simple.

Make her default trap time 2:00. Isn't it 2:30 now?

Reduce it by 30 seconds. That directly buffs her.

@RotBb said:
Nickenzie said:

Dwight_Confusion said:

The Pig? A buff?

Sure. Simple.

Make her default trap time 2:00. Isn't it 2:30 now?

Reduce it by 30 seconds. That directly buffs her.

Then your dead if the Pig uses "Tampered Timer" and "Jigsaw's Sketch". 1:30 with 5 boxes, you need RNG on your side to have a chance to survivor or communicate to the other survivors to not do a generator lol. Nice suggestion tho!

Luck offerings boost survivor RNG, Spine chill boosts speed, resilience boosts speed, sprint burst and balanced landing get you there faster, and it’s unlikely a SWF (most lobbies have at least two people) group would even activate the timer. Reducing the speed of the timer is a good buff because survivors who are efficient counter it. 

Spine Chill only works if the killer is looking in your direction from X meters, you have to be injured to use resilience (Which you probably are), even then. 90% of my matches, the Pig won't leave my ass if I have a trap on.

They are constantly patrolling the cages, they might as well crouch walk around behind me if they are just gonna play like that.

Also for #7, Make Your Choice does tell you when its activated. You have to be X meters away when they get unhooked for it to activate.

Buffs for Pig

RBT (Bold means that she really needs these buffs)

• RBT should kill a survivor if they jump through the hatch.
• Jigsaw Boxes need to be harder to search (skill checks need to be more difficult)
• Survivors shouldn't be able to get the RBT off if it's not even activated.
• Rules Set 2 needs to be added to her base kit.
• The Pig should be able to see the RBT timers.

Ambush

• Terror Radius and Red Stain need to disappear immediately when crouching
• Combat Straps needs to be added to her base kit.
• Either make her faster when in ambush or increase the time she's charging.

• Rework Amanda's Secret, and Amanda's Letter.
  (This is from another thread of mine to change Amanda's Secret)

• Removes the charging sound of The Pig's ambush. (the lion roar will be removed but Amanda's scream would still be heard)

• Moderately increases the Ambush Attack charge time.
• When a survivor is downed from the Ambush Attack, all other survivors' auras are revealed to you for 5 seconds.
• Stacks

Love,
A Pig Main

You said she doesn't need a buff then you make a whole list of buffs you want for her? (Are you stoned?) Anyway I agree she needs a buff, the biggest one I want for her is to remove the "roar" when she does a dash attack out of crouch. It's totally unnecessary to have it all it does is say "hey, survivors I am about to attack you, better run away now". Developers should NEVER have put it on Amanda to begin with.

I made a suggestion a while ago, that went some what like this:

Once the Pig uses a trap on you it's going to stay on you till all generators are completed. Searching a box at this moment grants you a key to your trap, but not to open it, merely to delay it snapping shut. If you don't get a key before a generator is completed, the trap shuts partially. (Think Hoffman in the sixth movie.)

The partial shut sends you into the next hook phase immediately, so from not hooked to summoning and from summoning to death hook. The thing I don't like about Amandas' traps are that they can be lost so early, especially with a lucky first box. This way once you got it on a survivor it will stay till late game, the rng merely affects the key search for it to partially shut. Once you have reached late game and the exits are powered, the actual timer starts. From there it goes on as normal.

I had more ideas but those are too much to put in a mere comment.

I definitely agree with most buffs to her crouching ambush, but the trap itself should get a small rework, not a buff.

@Salty_Pearl said:
Buffs for Pig

RBT (Bold means that she really needs these buffs)

• RBT should kill a survivor if they jump through the hatch.
• Jigsaw Boxes need to be harder to search (skill checks need to be more difficult)
• Survivors shouldn't be able to get the RBT off if it's not even activated.
• Rules Set 2 needs to be added to her base kit.

Ambush

• Terror Radius and Red Stain need to disappear immediately when crouching
• Combat Straps needs to be added to her base kit.
• Either make her faster when in ambush or increase the time she's charging.

• Rework Amanda's Secret, and Amanda's Letter.
  (This is from another thread of mine to change Amanda's Secret)

• Removes the charging sound of The Pig's ambush. (the lion roar will be removed but Amanda's scream would still be heard)

• Moderately increases the Ambush Attack charge time.
• When a survivor is downed from the Ambush Attack, all other survivors' auras are revealed to you for 5 seconds.
• Stacks

Love,
A Pig Main

I agree with mostly everything you said, I just want to add a few things

I agree with you that the current Rules Set 2 should be added to her base kit, especially since on most maps, most of the boxes are in obvious places (Literally on the top of a hill in some cases with the older maps), not to mention that they make noise. I also have an idea for how Rules Set 2 could be changed:

• Rules Set 2 (Ultra Rare Add-on):
• After a generator is completed, triggering the Reverse Bear Trap, each subsequent completed generator removes 30 seconds from the timer.

I'm not sure if 30 seconds is too much (again, consider that this is an ultra rare,) but I think having an add-on that penalizes continuous progression of generators would be a great idea, especially since it could come off as a surprise since survs won't know if you're running it.

For the base box skill check, I think it's fine. What would be nice if there were add-ons that increased the difficulty of the bear trap. Right now, we only have add-ons that increase the probability of triggering a skill check and increasing the penalty of failing a skill check.

• Workshop Grease (Common Add-on):
• Slightly increases the Skill Check trigger odds when interacting with a Jigsaw Box.

• Slightly increases the difficulty of a Skill Check when interacting with a Jigsaw Box.

• Razor Wires (Uncommon Add-on):

• Moderately increases the Skill Check trigger odds when interacting with a Jigsaw Box.

• Slightly increases the difficulty of a Skill Check when interacting with a Jigsaw Box.

• Interlocking Razor (Rare add-on):

• Tremendously increases the penalty of failed Skill Checks on Jigsaw Boxes.

• **Moderately increases* the difficulty of a Skill Check when interacting with a Jigsaw Box.

  Maybe making it so that these add-ons also make the skill checks harder as well as what they already do would benefit the Pig.

Ambush:
I think that