Are there any no-ruin killers here?

I'm one here. To be fair I don't play enough to constantly be rank 1 or anything but I've been red ranks a fair amount of time and I still didn't need it. I think in the year and few months I've had the game, I've used it 2 times. Just to try it out.

I dont even have ruin since my hag is lvl 5 but i dont think the changes are appropriate, I dont feel like we should coddle the new players especially at the cost of the old player base, a lot of killers are heavily in need of a buff for more variaty in the game and i feel we need more strong killer and survivor perks to also help with that. Not destroy decent perks especially ones that yknow can be get rid of with a bad spawn.

Me! People are just kneejerk angry overreacting as normal. Remember the smart change to DS? This is that just all over again. Watch how in a month or so everyone will be using it again saying it's better. Just watch.

Whatever floats your boat dude. It's not a very good look to openly enjoy ruining the gaming experience for others, but... Different strokes for different folks.

Well I'm practically a killer main now because of waiting times as a survivor, and as rank 10 killer I get put in with red ranks every single match, which is bad enough, and because I know I will be playing them, I don't bother with ruin, because I know before I take my second melee hit on someone, it will gone 😂 so I just don't bother with it. If I play hag then I might, just because I know I got some kinda protection for it, but yeah I just avoid it 99% of the time and try other things

I cant say the perks I use because they might be nerfed next week

Yes and no. In the Plague build I've been spamming recently I don't use it, and generally I favour PGtW, but there's certainly some killers I like to run it on.

I'm less frustrated that they deleted nerfed it and more that they did nothing in return to fix the issue that it's a bandaid for.

80% of high rank players use it, MAYBE THAT'S COS 80% OF PLAYERS SEE AN ISSUE IN THE EARLY GAME.

Nobody cares whether it's better or worse or more fun against new players, it's the other 95% of the playerbase that knows early game gen speed is problematic.

As a survivor, Pop and Corrupt Intervention are way more effective against me. I run Small Game because Ruin is so strong on console and I usually cleanse within 30 seconds. This change won't make a difference in how I play. I'm going to run around at the start and cleanse all the totems, dull or hex. I'm not getting smacked with NOED and I know most survivors won't even cleanse one dull totem, so it's up to me.

I'm a no-ruin killer.

I hate the perk, hate seeing someone use it whenever I play survivor, and will always go out of my way to encourage people to not use it.

That said, I can understand why some people use it. Early game pressure is very important for the killer, and Ruin is an easy way to create early game pressure without much effort. Not to mention most killers can't really pressure early gens all that well compared to killers like Nurse or Spirit.

Another non-Ruin Killer reporting in. I don't need it to reach Rank 1. so the changes don't bother me much as a Killer.

Heavy Ruin user here, still sad about the changes. If it doesn't go down within the first few minutes or got a few hooks in, then it done it's job. But still, the nerf screws down killers without fast downing abilities or ones that need set up. Demo, hag, Trapper comes to mind.

I tried using Oni without Ruin for a few games, it is still doable (at least in Rank 10) because of Oni's one shot and map pressure. Same goes for hillbilly.

Still, I feel like most non-mobile killers will end up using Corrupt or Thrilling or PoP

i never used ruin and i only play killer, but sadly my opinion wont matter because everyone will just throw out hate anyways

I play hag and trapper alot using corrupt instead of ruin, to help set up a perimeter. On my best games I never leave one half of the map. Be territorial with them

I don’t use it. I got bombarded for saying you don’t need Ruin to win. Provided screenshot proofs and all and the excuses I got were my other perks or add ons, which prove the point Ruin isn’t a necessity.

Back when Nurse was fun and useable I never ran Ruin because it took up slots for better and more interesting perks.

But now that both have had their kneecaps shattered I don't see any reason to run it without a dedicated build around it.

Used ruin a few times in the past when I first got hag levelled up.

Never liked using the perk as I felt the need to protected it too much and it made me worse over time as a killer.

Took it off and never looked back.

I prefer perks which help in a chase as good survivors powered through the gens anyway. I learnt to mind Camelot better which in turn slowed the game down naturally as one being hooked, one going for the save and I'm chasing another means at least three are off gens anyway.

I also found out by leaving the hook and not patrolling they are more likely to heal for the points. Every little helps and by that point the 3rd is generally downed. Yes you get the odd instant save but I can slug or activate BT and just chase the unhooker.

It's also noticed a change in the mindset when players feel they can save more freely and feel under less pressure. I found players tried to rush more with ruin as they just wanted out and were a lot more try hard.

Lol what dude? Whispers is a great perk for early and end game. Maybe try playing something other than meta.