Is MLGA still allowed
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Only if they can detect it.Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
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Yes and no.
The Devs themselves will not ban you for it but MLGA is at risk getting blasted by EAC (Anti-cheat) at any moment. BHVR stated they wont do anything to unban you if that happens.
Since it runs with scripts the chances are high. My advice is to stay away.0 -
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
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if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
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@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
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ok so from your post i got the following statements:Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.3 -
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff. So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you. @Lowbei said: Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it. Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
ok so from your post i got the following statements:
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
It was not cheat related. At one point (not sure if this is still the case) you were able to see the IPs of the people you were playing with. For obvious reasons, this is not something you would want to endorse.
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Couldn't have said it any better.Lowbei said:
ok so from your post i got the following statements:Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
Any news on the devs position on that new program that detects SWF?1 -
@Peanits said:
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff. So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you. @Lowbei said: Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it. Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
ok so from your post i got the following statements:
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
It was not cheat related. At one point (not sure if this is still the case) you were able to see the IPs of the people you were playing with. For obvious reasons, this is not something you would want to endorse.
You can still see people's IP addresses and all you need is a tool that Windows comes with (and all other OS probably too), it's the cmd (command prompt) or basically any other tool that monitors your network connections.
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anyone can do that within about 5seconds of alt tabbing, which is the risk you run playing peer to peer.Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff. So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you. @Lowbei said: Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it. Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
ok so from your post i got the following statements:
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
It was not cheat related. At one point (not sure if this is still the case) you were able to see the IPs of the people you were playing with. For obvious reasons, this is not something you would want to endorse.
that being said, you are saying that a “shady” 3rd party app, that you CAN* detect, was providing users with other users private data, especially in a game where people get very angry and threats are common, and it wasnt blacklisted because...?
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The thing with MLGA is that EAC is not allowed to detect it without breaching privacy rules.
EAC is only allowed to scan the ram for files which modify the DBD ones, MLGA is another app which to put it simply is an overlay, basically you are just bringing it to the front of the any other app your using, it does not utilise any of the DBD files when running so if you say the DBD can detect it something isn't right with what they are doing.
To also say that because it used to show the IP address and that is not something they wish to endorse also makes no sense, you can open up the task manager once in a lobby and you have the other persons IP address right there, also if they don't want certain info why allow the option to see other people profile at all at the end of the game? it doesn't make much sense saying that to be honest.
For what I can see MLGA was complained about, the dev's know they cannot do anything about it so they make the statement it is no longer whitelisted, said use at your own risk and walked away to appease the ones complaining, its a problem they cannot fix without using dedicated servers.
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@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
It is definitely against the rules, even if they cant detect it. In that case you violate the rules, but you cant be punished because the devs dont know. That detection thing is a different story, but usage of MLGA is definitely a bannable offense
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Yes and no.The Devs themselves will not ban you for it but MLGA is at risk getting blasted by EAC (Anti-cheat) at any moment. BHVR stated they wont do anything to unban you if that happens.
Since it runs with scripts the chances are high. My advice is to stay away.
Excuse me?
EAC is the cheat engine of the game, it literally tells the devs who to bann etc.1 -
@Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
By the TOS, not being on a whitelist means that usage of such a 3rd party programm is bannable.
As a mod you should know that (or did they change the TOS and I am wrong now?)0 -
@Peanits said:
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
But it is some soert of cheating - the game is ment for survivors to not know who the killer is, but MLGA can detect if the killer is on your "blacklist", and then you can dodge him.
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Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.
Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
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@RSB said:
@Peanits said:
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
But it is some soert of cheating - the game is ment for survivors to not know who the killer is, but MLGA can detect if the killer is on your "blacklist", and then you can dodge him.
@RSB said:
@Peanits said:
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.
So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
But it is some soert of cheating - the game is ment for survivors to not know who the killer is, but MLGA can detect if the killer is on your "blacklist", and then you can dodge him.
The fact that devs put it in their whitelist in the beginning shows clearly that they consider it to be in that cheating category, but they said its ok.
Now by removing it from the whitelist, it is 100% clear that using it is a bannable offense. The only question left is whether they can detect it and bann you for it or whether it will be your secret
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@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
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@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
Okay, maybe im stupid...but i also asked my friends, they also do not know what you are talking about. How can someone ruin your game experience if they leaving your lobby before the game has even started? And btw, if you taking this as a reason, why does nobody cares about the campers/tunnlers ruining the gameplay experience for survivors? Technical: Me leaving a lobby, before even the trial started is not okay, because it is ruining someones experience. But Killer beeing a hardcore camper+tunnler is okay and does not ruining anyones experience, he is "just" doing something we dont like?...lol...what an argument xD
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@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
Okay, maybe im stupid...but i also asked my friends, they also do not know what you are talking about. How can someone ruin your game experience if they leaving your lobby before the game has even started? And btw, if you taking this as a reason, why does nobody cares about the campers/tunnlers ruining the gameplay experience for survivors? Technical: Me leaving a lobby, before even the trial started is not okay, because it is ruining someones experience. But Killer beeing a hardcore camper+tunnler is okay and does not ruining anyones experience, he is "just" doing something we dont like?...lol...what an argument xD
Well MLGA will be used to block good players who demolish survivors with their nurse for example.
By blacklisting, you make those players unable to play the game anymore, thus ruining their experience.
Camping and tunneling doesnt ruin the survivors experience because IT IS PART OF THE GAME. If you cant accept that they you bought the wrong game, go ahead and watch dev diary #3 if you dont trust me words.Actually lobby dodging as killer is not ok too because this way they can make survivors unable to play too (they can safe their steam profile link e.g. and always dodge them), but its significantly harder to pull off and we dont have an automated program for that yet, so its kinda be okish because it cant be abused heavily atm.
Edit: you said you and your friends dont understand what I am talking about. This makes me think that you are a SWF player. You will understand how a program like MLGA can ruin a players experience if that new program that detects SWF becomes more popular. Will you still say that such a program is fine when you have to wait 30 min+ because almost every killer is using such a program?
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@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
Okay, maybe im stupid...but i also asked my friends, they also do not know what you are talking about. How can someone ruin your game experience if they leaving your lobby before the game has even started? And btw, if you taking this as a reason, why does nobody cares about the campers/tunnlers ruining the gameplay experience for survivors? Technical: Me leaving a lobby, before even the trial started is not okay, because it is ruining someones experience. But Killer beeing a hardcore camper+tunnler is okay and does not ruining anyones experience, he is "just" doing something we dont like?...lol...what an argument xD
Well MLGA will be used to block good players who demolish survivors with their nurse for example.
By blacklisting, you make those players unable to play the game anymore, thus ruining their experience.
Camping and tunneling doesnt ruin the survivors experience because IT IS PART OF THE GAME. If you cant accept that they you bought the wrong game, go ahead and watch dev diary #3 if you dont trust me words.Actually lobby dodging as killer is not ok too because this way they can make survivors unable to play too (they can safe their steam profile link e.g. and always dodge them), but its significantly harder to pull off and we dont have an automated program for that yet, so its kinda be okish because it cant be abused heavily atm.
Edit: you said you and your friends dont understand what I am talking about. This makes me think that you are a SWF player. You will understand how a program like MLGA can ruin a players experience if that new program that detects SWF becomes more popular. Will you still say that such a program is fine when you have to wait 30 min+ because almost every killer is using such a program?
Lol, first to your edit. So me asking friends mean automatical that im a SWF person? Well, idk how your reallife or your life with your gamer friends works, but i have friends i do not have to play with in a SWF to show them your (sry for that) but bad arguments and to ask for their opinion. And iam totally fine by waiting 30min+ for a good Killer who is not afraid to play against a swf.
tbh iam a better solo gamer than a swf gamer. Idk what Killers think we are doing then we playing with friends, like in the army just giving useful informations away? If i play swf its for fun, not for bullying someone etc. I want to have a good experience.
I use MLGA just for blocking Killers who ruining my gameplay experience, and if you saying MLGA wille be just be used to block good players , you are totally wrong in the most cases. I enjoy playing against a good Killer, especially nurse. I love to play against her. So, if you just getting the idea by urself to block good players, something on your side, with your thoughts is wrong. I just want the same that killers have, the oppertunity to choose who i play against.
Edit: You cant say that the gameplay experience not get ruined by campers/tunnlers. In fact you have to say then also: The gameplay experience not get ruined by people leaving your lobby or swf. Because it is a part of the game
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@Master said:
@Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
By the TOS, not being on a whitelist means that usage of such a 3rd party programm is bannable.
As a mod you should know that (or did they change the TOS and I am wrong now?)This is not true. The whitelist is a "Go ahead, use it all you want, you're safe." The blacklist is the "Don't use this, you will be banned." MLGA currently sits somewhere in the middle, where it's not officially endorsed nor blacklisted. It means that it's not something we actively ban for (because we don't have a reason to), but it's no longer a "safe" program to use.
RE: Other people saying that you can find IPs via windows: You can, yes, not going to go into details. The key here is that this is obscured from the average person and the only time you'd see it is if you're going out of your way to specifically find it. The difference being, here's a whitelisted program which had them from and center. That's not something any developer would want, as it opens up possibilities for malicious behavior. The program itself is fine, it's just not something you would want to suggest your players check out.
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@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
Okay, maybe im stupid...but i also asked my friends, they also do not know what you are talking about. How can someone ruin your game experience if they leaving your lobby before the game has even started? And btw, if you taking this as a reason, why does nobody cares about the campers/tunnlers ruining the gameplay experience for survivors? Technical: Me leaving a lobby, before even the trial started is not okay, because it is ruining someones experience. But Killer beeing a hardcore camper+tunnler is okay and does not ruining anyones experience, he is "just" doing something we dont like?...lol...what an argument xD
Well MLGA will be used to block good players who demolish survivors with their nurse for example.
By blacklisting, you make those players unable to play the game anymore, thus ruining their experience.
Camping and tunneling doesnt ruin the survivors experience because IT IS PART OF THE GAME. If you cant accept that they you bought the wrong game, go ahead and watch dev diary #3 if you dont trust me words.Actually lobby dodging as killer is not ok too because this way they can make survivors unable to play too (they can safe their steam profile link e.g. and always dodge them), but its significantly harder to pull off and we dont have an automated program for that yet, so its kinda be okish because it cant be abused heavily atm.
Edit: you said you and your friends dont understand what I am talking about. This makes me think that you are a SWF player. You will understand how a program like MLGA can ruin a players experience if that new program that detects SWF becomes more popular. Will you still say that such a program is fine when you have to wait 30 min+ because almost every killer is using such a program?
Lol, first to your edit. So me asking friends mean automatical that im a SWF person? Well, idk how your reallife or your life with your gamer friends works, but i have friends i do not have to play with in a SWF to show them your (sry for that) but bad arguments and to ask for their opinion. And iam totally fine by waiting 30min+ for a good Killer who is not afraid to play against a swf.
tbh iam a better solo gamer than a swf gamer. Idk what Killers think we are doing then we playing with friends, like in the army just giving useful informations away? If i play swf its for fun, not for bullying someone etc. I want to have a good experience.
I use MLGA just for blocking Killers who ruining my gameplay experience, and if you saying MLGA wille be just be used to block good players , you are totally wrong in the most cases. I enjoy playing against a good Killer, especially nurse. I love to play against her. So, if you just getting the idea by urself to block good players, something on your side, with your thoughts is wrong. I just want the same that killers have, the oppertunity to choose who i play against.
Edit: You cant say that the gameplay experience not get ruined by campers/tunnlers. In fact you have to say then also: The gameplay experience not get ruined by people leaving your lobby or swf. Because it is a part of the game
Enjoy your own argument.My edit wasnt meant as an offense, I just tried to explain the problem MLGA creates by describing a similar problem that could affect you soon from your own perspective. If you are willing to wait 30 min for a game, sure, but hoenstly I doubt it and the last time queues have been so long, there has been countless complains about exactly that problem.
Sure, you might play SWF for fun and not for bullying intentions, but I know from my own experience playing with my own friends that you will always give away information, the killer is chasing me atm, the last gen is at XYZ, I am lieing in the big house next to the gen (while the killer uses knockout). You cant deny that the voice comsm of SWF provide you with an insane advantage, even if you dont actively exploit it by trying to bully the killer with flashlights and DS like some other "individuals" do.
I dont care what the reasons are you use MLGA for, fact is that its useage is bannable by the TOS. Their formulation is pretty precise in such a case and we dont need to discuss that.
From your explanation I assume that you would be ok if all killers would use that SWF detection program too?
Camping and tunneling are both indended game mechanics even though they might be annoying for the survivors, did you watch the dev diary #3?
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@Peanits said:
@Master said:
@Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
By the TOS, not being on a whitelist means that usage of such a 3rd party programm is bannable.
As a mod you should know that (or did they change the TOS and I am wrong now?)This is not true. The whitelist is a "Go ahead, use it all you want, you're safe." The blacklist is the "Don't use this, you will be banned." MLGA currently sits somewhere in the middle, where it's not officially endorsed nor blacklisted. It means that it's not something we actively ban for (because we don't have a reason to), but it's no longer a "safe" program to use.
RE: Other people saying that you can find IPs via windows: You can, yes, not going to go into details. The key here is that this is obscured from the average person and the only time you'd see it is if you're going out of your way to specifically find it. The difference being, here's a whitelisted program which had them from and center. That's not something any developer would want, as it opens up possibilities for malicious behavior. The program itself is fine, it's just not something you would want to suggest your players check out.
The TOS state that the use of ANY third party program yielding an ingame advantage is a bannable offense UNLESS it is whitelisted.
A so called "blacklist" doesnt even exist to my knowledge. At least thats how it was written down when I last checked the TOS.
But even if they changed the TOS, I even wrote an email regarding an overlay program I wanted to use and asked whether its use is bannable.The devs were unable to answer me and redirected me to the EAC support that didnt even bother answering at all, but thats another story.
Fact is that the use of any third party program which is not whitelisted is your own risk and you can get banned for it if EAC detects it, or I am mistaken?
But since you are a mod, I have a request.
I was never able to get an official list of allowed programs from BHVR, only some vague comments under some threads.Where is this so called whitelist, or even a blacklist if such a thing exists.
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@Master said:
@Peanits said:
@Master said:
@Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
By the TOS, not being on a whitelist means that usage of such a 3rd party programm is bannable.
As a mod you should know that (or did they change the TOS and I am wrong now?)This is not true. The whitelist is a "Go ahead, use it all you want, you're safe." The blacklist is the "Don't use this, you will be banned." MLGA currently sits somewhere in the middle, where it's not officially endorsed nor blacklisted. It means that it's not something we actively ban for (because we don't have a reason to), but it's no longer a "safe" program to use.
RE: Other people saying that you can find IPs via windows: You can, yes, not going to go into details. The key here is that this is obscured from the average person and the only time you'd see it is if you're going out of your way to specifically find it. The difference being, here's a whitelisted program which had them from and center. That's not something any developer would want, as it opens up possibilities for malicious behavior. The program itself is fine, it's just not something you would want to suggest your players check out.
The TOS state that the use of ANY third party program yielding an ingame advantage is a bannable offense UNLESS it is whitelisted.
A so called "blacklist" doesnt even exist to my knowledge. At least thats how it was written down when I last checked the TOS.
But even if they changed the TOS, I even wrote an email regarding an overlay program I wanted to use and asked whether its use is bannable.The devs were unable to answer me and redirected me to the EAC support that didnt even bother answering at all, but thats another story.
Fact is that the use of any third party program which is not whitelisted is your own risk and you can get banned for it if EAC detects it, or I am mistaken?
But since you are a mod, I have a request.
I was never able to get an official list of allowed programs from BHVR, only some vague comments under some threads.Where is this so called whitelist, or even a blacklist if such a thing exists.
To keep it simple, EAC handles the detection part. When something is whitelisted, they know not to detect it. When it's blacklisted, it'll ban you when it detects it. If it's neither, it's somewhere in between. This is where the "use at your own risk" part comes in. We no longer guarantee that it won't flag you.
The whitelist isn't so much a physical list, it's just a 'blessing' type deal. If you're ever wondering if something is whitelisted, feel free to ask.
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@Peanits said:
@Master said:
@Peanits said:
@Master said:
@Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff.So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you.
@Lowbei said:
Jonathanskilz said:Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it.
Ha, if.
By the TOS, not being on a whitelist means that usage of such a 3rd party programm is bannable.
As a mod you should know that (or did they change the TOS and I am wrong now?)This is not true. The whitelist is a "Go ahead, use it all you want, you're safe." The blacklist is the "Don't use this, you will be banned." MLGA currently sits somewhere in the middle, where it's not officially endorsed nor blacklisted. It means that it's not something we actively ban for (because we don't have a reason to), but it's no longer a "safe" program to use.
RE: Other people saying that you can find IPs via windows: You can, yes, not going to go into details. The key here is that this is obscured from the average person and the only time you'd see it is if you're going out of your way to specifically find it. The difference being, here's a whitelisted program which had them from and center. That's not something any developer would want, as it opens up possibilities for malicious behavior. The program itself is fine, it's just not something you would want to suggest your players check out.
The TOS state that the use of ANY third party program yielding an ingame advantage is a bannable offense UNLESS it is whitelisted.
A so called "blacklist" doesnt even exist to my knowledge. At least thats how it was written down when I last checked the TOS.
But even if they changed the TOS, I even wrote an email regarding an overlay program I wanted to use and asked whether its use is bannable.The devs were unable to answer me and redirected me to the EAC support that didnt even bother answering at all, but thats another story.
Fact is that the use of any third party program which is not whitelisted is your own risk and you can get banned for it if EAC detects it, or I am mistaken?
But since you are a mod, I have a request.
I was never able to get an official list of allowed programs from BHVR, only some vague comments under some threads.Where is this so called whitelist, or even a blacklist if such a thing exists.
To keep it simple, EAC handles the detection part. When something is whitelisted, they know not to detect it. When it's blacklisted, it'll ban you when it detects it. If it's neither, it's somewhere in between. This is where the "use at your own risk" part comes in. We no longer guarantee that it won't flag you.
The whitelist isn't so much a physical list, it's just a 'blessing' type deal. If you're ever wondering if something is whitelisted, feel free to ask.
Well I asked for example whether an overlay program was acceptable, I wrote an official email to the DBD support. They only redirect you to EAC and those completely ignore you.
Are you saying that there exists nothing like a whitelist or blacklist officially? Thats kinda ridiculous then, how is a player supposed to know whats ok to use and what not
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@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
@Master said:
@Pandakecks said:
Iam curious, how does MLGA affect the DbD gameplay, because so many talking about "cheat" or bannable offense. Instead of discussing MLGA who is just there because Dev's thought it is okay to remove the ability to see the killer is not more than all Killers have. The right to choose who you want to play against. Iam pretty sorry, but iam gettin sick of playing over and over against a total hardcore camping and tunneling ass. But MLGA doesnt change anything about the gameplay or give anyone a positive effect on the game itself.Lets talk about Zekeo, who is really cheating and using 3rd party software to fly, speedhack and wallhack. Why this ######### doesnt get banned.
Because devs are really slow workign through the pile of reports, I dont wanna even imagine how many reports for camping and tunneling they have to discard every day.... damn that job must be horrible
We dont actually need to discuss how MLGA affects the gameplay. Fact is that DBD devs had to whitelist it in the first place, thus by removing it from the whitelist its usage now is bannable
Basically its the same as DCing, You cant simply ruin someone elses experience just because they do sth you dont like. Dcing is a bannable offense too, but for some reason it isnt punished unless you DC like in 80% of your total games.
Okay, maybe im stupid...but i also asked my friends, they also do not know what you are talking about. How can someone ruin your game experience if they leaving your lobby before the game has even started? And btw, if you taking this as a reason, why does nobody cares about the campers/tunnlers ruining the gameplay experience for survivors? Technical: Me leaving a lobby, before even the trial started is not okay, because it is ruining someones experience. But Killer beeing a hardcore camper+tunnler is okay and does not ruining anyones experience, he is "just" doing something we dont like?...lol...what an argument xD
Well MLGA will be used to block good players who demolish survivors with their nurse for example.
By blacklisting, you make those players unable to play the game anymore, thus ruining their experience.
Camping and tunneling doesnt ruin the survivors experience because IT IS PART OF THE GAME. If you cant accept that they you bought the wrong game, go ahead and watch dev diary #3 if you dont trust me words.Actually lobby dodging as killer is not ok too because this way they can make survivors unable to play too (they can safe their steam profile link e.g. and always dodge them), but its significantly harder to pull off and we dont have an automated program for that yet, so its kinda be okish because it cant be abused heavily atm.
Edit: you said you and your friends dont understand what I am talking about. This makes me think that you are a SWF player. You will understand how a program like MLGA can ruin a players experience if that new program that detects SWF becomes more popular. Will you still say that such a program is fine when you have to wait 30 min+ because almost every killer is using such a program?
Lol, first to your edit. So me asking friends mean automatical that im a SWF person? Well, idk how your reallife or your life with your gamer friends works, but i have friends i do not have to play with in a SWF to show them your (sry for that) but bad arguments and to ask for their opinion. And iam totally fine by waiting 30min+ for a good Killer who is not afraid to play against a swf.
tbh iam a better solo gamer than a swf gamer. Idk what Killers think we are doing then we playing with friends, like in the army just giving useful informations away? If i play swf its for fun, not for bullying someone etc. I want to have a good experience.
I use MLGA just for blocking Killers who ruining my gameplay experience, and if you saying MLGA wille be just be used to block good players , you are totally wrong in the most cases. I enjoy playing against a good Killer, especially nurse. I love to play against her. So, if you just getting the idea by urself to block good players, something on your side, with your thoughts is wrong. I just want the same that killers have, the oppertunity to choose who i play against.
Edit: You cant say that the gameplay experience not get ruined by campers/tunnlers. In fact you have to say then also: The gameplay experience not get ruined by people leaving your lobby or swf. Because it is a part of the game
Enjoy your own argument.My edit wasnt meant as an offense, I just tried to explain the problem MLGA creates by describing a similar problem that could affect you soon from your own perspective. If you are willing to wait 30 min for a game, sure, but hoenstly I doubt it and the last time queues have been so long, there has been countless complains about exactly that problem.
Sure, you might play SWF for fun and not for bullying intentions, but I know from my own experience playing with my own friends that you will always give away information, the killer is chasing me atm, the last gen is at XYZ, I am lieing in the big house next to the gen (while the killer uses knockout). You cant deny that the voice comsm of SWF provide you with an insane advantage, even if you dont actively exploit it by trying to bully the killer with flashlights and DS like some other "individuals" do.
I dont care what the reasons are you use MLGA for, fact is that its useage is bannable by the TOS. Their formulation is pretty precise in such a case and we dont need to discuss that.
From your explanation I assume that you would be ok if all killers would use that SWF detection program too?
Camping and tunneling are both indended game mechanics even though they might be annoying for the survivors, did you watch the dev diary #3?
Denying a player to play the game however is indeed ruining their game experience and ofc must be prevented by the devs.I would be completly okay then Killers would use that Programm. They choosing to not playing against a SWF, like i choose to not playing against hardcore campers/tunnlers.
And for sure, you giving some informations away, but to be really honest with you. I have many friends who do not give like any informations away. If they getting chased, they are so brain afk, that they forgot even to tell they getting chased. For sure there are "individuals" like that ochido dude, who think they are funny and trying to make a game for a killer the living hell. But cause of my own experience as killer ( play both sides 50:50), i rarely get swf groups like that. So i just take it if they occure and done.
I just think since day one they removed the ability to see who the killer is, that this is a unfair thing. The killer can choose the whole time, if they want to play against a swf, against flashlights, toolboxes or against that "individual" people. But the survivor have to take that. It should be fun for both sides. And i have the best games against good killer, and even if i die i give a +rep if he played fair and iam also beeing nice in postgame chat.
And for sure i saw every Dev stream, iam a veteran , im playing since day one. Doesnt change anything about swf got into the game like around two months after DbD got released. So, for me its a part of the game like all other things. it can be strong, fore sure. But mostly swf groups are over altruistic and that is a high advantage for Killers. I have the best games against swf groups, its challenging and fun.
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@RSB said:
But it is some soert of cheating - the game is ment for survivors to not know who the killer is, but MLGA can detect if the killer is on your "blacklist", and then you can dodge him.
There's actually some new features that got implemented that actually cross the line including but not limited to being able to chat in the survivors lobby as killer. You could as a survivor swap to a killer in the lobby and so there'd be 2 killers.
The hackers decided to go full bore jerk against 1 developer after he nailed one of their other programs. So now instead of bare bones basics they're adding everything and the kitchen sink. So if you use either program EAC will actually be able to catch you much easier.
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@Pandakecks said:
Lol, first to your edit. So me asking friends mean automatical that im a SWF person? Well, idk how your reallife or your life with your gamer friends works, but i have friends i do not have to play with in a SWF to show them your (sry for that) but bad arguments and to ask for their opinion. And iam totally fine by waiting 30min+ for a good Killer who is not afraid to play against a swf.
tbh iam a better solo gamer than a swf gamer. Idk what Killers think we are doing then we playing with friends, like in the army just giving useful informations away? If i play swf its for fun, not for bullying someone etc. I want to have a good experience.
I use MLGA just for blocking Killers who ruining my gameplay experience, and if you saying MLGA wille be just be used to block good players , you are totally wrong in the most cases. I enjoy playing against a good Killer, especially nurse. I love to play against her. So, if you just getting the idea by urself to block good players, something on your side, with your thoughts is wrong. I just want the same that killers have, the oppertunity to choose who i play against.
Edit: You cant say that the gameplay experience not get ruined by campers/tunnlers. In fact you have to say then also: The gameplay experience not get ruined by people leaving your lobby or swf. Because it is a part of the game
Enjoy your own argument.you are okay with waiting 30 minutes to play a 5-10 minute game?
but you arent okay with staring at a killer for 1 minute and 30 seconds while he camps you to death?i sense some problems with these 2 statements
i wouldn,t play any game with a 30 minute waiting period myself
and if i get camped in game i just alt tab and turn on some music and have a good old stare off with my new
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A lot of people in the community use MLGA the program isn't whitelisted by BHVR but it is whitelisted by EAC because they find that there is no problem with it unless BHVR says to EAC we want this program blacklisted well you probably won't get banned
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@Master said:
@Warmbeano said:
A lot of people in the community use MLGA the program isn't whitelisted by BHVR but it is whitelisted by EAC because they find that there is no problem with it unless BHVR says to EAC we want this program blacklisted well you probably won't get bannedWhere are you pulling that info from?
Here is the official whitelist of EAC:
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/MLGA is nowwhere mentioned, please clarify and provide a link for the whitelist you are talking about
https://m.imgur.com/a/QUUWd2l here someone contacted EAC and asked them If it is bannable or not
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@Warmbeano said:
A lot of people in the community use MLGA the program isn't whitelisted by BHVR but it is whitelisted by EAC because they find that there is no problem with it unless BHVR says to EAC we want this program blacklisted well you probably won't get bannedWhere are you pulling that info from?
Here is the official whitelist of EAC:
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/MLGA is nowwhere mentioned, please clarify and provide a link for the whitelist you are talking about
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https://m.imgur.com/a/QUUWd2l here someone asked EAC if it is allowed this was after the devs said it was no longer whitelisted EAC said that they won't ban for it edit:also I dunno why my original post sent like 90 times sorry about thatMaster said:@Warmbeano said:
A lot of people in the community use MLGA the program isn't whitelisted by BHVR but it is whitelisted by EAC because they find that there is no problem with it unless BHVR says to EAC we want this program blacklisted well you probably won't get bannedWhere are you pulling that info from?
Here is the official whitelist of EAC:
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/MLGA is nowwhere mentioned, please clarify and provide a link for the whitelist you are talking about
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@Peanits said:
@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:@Lowbei said:
Peanits said:
Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff. So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you. @Lowbei said: Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it. Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
ok so from your post i got the following statements:
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
It was not cheat related. At one point (not sure if this is still the case) you were able to see the IPs of the people you were playing with. For obvious reasons, this is not something you would want to endorse.
People used it to be able to see if the person is blocked or not with devs dont wanna support, personally i dont block people for that i only wanna see my ping
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Last I checked, it is no longer whitelisted. That doesn't mean that it's banned, but it's now use at your own risk. When it was whitelisted, you were safe to use it, but now it's fallen back into shady territory. I use italics to put emphasis on stuff. So basically we won't actively hunt you down and ban you for using MLGA. But if EAC starts to detect it and bans you for it, we won't be able to help you. @Lowbei said: Jonathanskilz said:
Is using a 3rd party app that affects the way the game is played, against the rules?
Only if they can detect it. Ha, if.
if they could detect a 3rd party app that affects gameplay, it makes no sense that it wouldnt be blacklisted like all other hacks aka 3rd party apps that affect gameplay. so the logical explanation is that they know they cant detect it, and thus ignore it.
It's detectable. The issue isn't detection. The whole reason why it was originally whitelisted was because it added features that people wanted, and it wasn't too intrusive. At some point more features were added that got into shady territory (stuff developers wouldn't want to actively support), so it was removed from the whitelist. It's still not cheating, it's just not something that would get a seal of approval.
ok so from your post i got the following statements:
bhvr can detect mlga.
it was whitelisted because it added the ping checker in the lobby, despite bhvr currently working on a ping checker of their own. a baffling decision.
mlga then added something considered “shady”, but instead of blacklisting this 3rd party “shady” app that affects gameplay, we simply moved it into the grey area.
“its still not cheating” despite the fact that any other “shady” 3rd party app that affects gameplay is considered cheating, and EAC is set up to catch them.
Its pretty obvious that EAC cannot detect MLGA, and its current grey area is due to there being nothing they can do about it.
It was not cheat related. At one point (not sure if this is still the case) you were able to see the IPs of the people you were playing with. For obvious reasons, this is not something you would want to endorse.
People used it to be able to see if the person is blocked or not with devs dont wanna suppose personally i dont block people for that i only wanna see my ping
That's you. You are not a representative of the whole. Fact is, people were blocking for any and all reasons under the sun, greatly increasing lobby wait times, breaking lobbies left and right, and so on.
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