What are survivors upset about?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!
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I don´t get it either.
They complain like they would have been nerfed hard. But it was just a small nerf.11 -
My problems have never came with the updates...
It's the face camping "get good" killers..
And the survivors that do nothing but farm the ######### outta you.. And proceed to tell you to get good.
Look at the game in whole... The whole toxic community..I mean ######### I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...7 -
Survivors are upset about the things you just said. They have this delusion that they're meant to be the power role.
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Any one stop to think maybe its doctor main pissed off that that all the survivors are now running cs? Lol...Orion said:Survivors are upset about the things you just said. They have this delusion that they're meant to be the power role.
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Main surv. here, and love the changes in the game. Guess they're trying to force the devs to run the game the way they want, i just hope the devs stay strong and keep doing their agenda. This crybabies will stop crying soon.
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It as a pretty minor update, they're just using it as an excuse to complain.
It's probably just symbolic.
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Stop crying baby killerino
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
My problems have never came with the updates...
It's the face camping "get good" killers..
And the survivors that do nothing but farm the ######### outta you.. And proceed to tell you to get good.
Look at the game in whole... The whole toxic community..I mean ######### I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...Do you play killer? Then you should know the play style of people you have played many times before. You know what they are going to do. You know they will FL and tbag given the chance. You know they are the unhookers of the game. You know you have to get rid of them first to even stand a chance. That is how tight the tolerances can be in some games. We are talking seconds or one fudgeup away from a loss. This promotes tunneling and in some cases camping. Sorry. Those are the realities of DbD for a killer.
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That tantrum isn't much worse than the ones they had on Freddys release or the one 2 weeks ago when they said BBQ isn't going to be nerfed and the Exhaustion nerf is gonna be real so they should git gud.Trotfoxx said:Main surv. here, and love the changes in the game. Guess they're trying to force the devs to run the game the way they want, i just hope the devs stay strong and keep doing their agenda. This crybabies will stop crying soon.
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@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Well, I can tell you, why ONE survivor was upset in my last killer game. I played Hag, I don't have the best perks, I managed to hook everyone at least once and killed ONE person who had a flashlight. Hag, flashlight, you get why I was happy to find her again
In the post game chat he told me, that he is upset, cause my mother didn't think about abortion, because I am such a dick and so on. So to answer your question - survivors will flame and be upset about everything, if they don't survive or troll the killer the whole game long. On the other hand, killers will always complain about survs tbagging, being too strong and so on. In the end every human being seems to have this moments.
(sorry, english isn't my native language, hope you all get my point^^)1 -
@Envees said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
My problems have never came with the updates...
It's the face camping "get good" killers..
And the survivors that do nothing but farm the ######### outta you.. And proceed to tell you to get good.
Look at the game in whole... The whole toxic community..I mean ######### I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...Do you play killer? Then you should know the play style of people you have played many times before. You know what they are going to do. You know they will FL and tbag given the chance. You know they are the unhookers of the game. You know you have to get rid of them first to even stand a chance. That is how tight the tolerances can be in some games. We are talking seconds or one fudgeup away from a loss. This promotes tunneling and in some cases camping. Sorry. Those are the realities of DbD for a killer.
I actually do play killer
I play killer just as much as I play survivor..And I myself do not camp unless someone is horribly toxic..
if someone is just running to get away and not t-bagging or anything like that I hook and walk away..
But 95% of killers camp no matter what..
I dont flashlight save I dont tbag I don't do anything toxic but run to pallets and I get camped..Last night played someone who camped everyone they hooked well i happened to find a flashlight and I knew I was gonna get camped so why not try to blind em while breaking a pallet...
Killers cry that survivors are toxic but Killer are just as much toxic as the survivors are..
You can't have one without the other..
I dont play toxic survivor or killer..
But some people they can't help but to be toxic and its thats who you are then youll probably be camped and #########..
People talk about crying survivors with this new patch ..but Ive seen the camping get WORSE since the new patch..Im rank 4-5 not a new level 20 saying this..
And no its not always like that at all..I have not played a swf since the new season..Ive gotten complete tards for teammates who dont know how to get rid or ruins or who farms you or just hides in a locker the entire game lol..
and someones play style can change..so thats not valid at all1 -
@MrsMaliciousX said:
@Envees said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
My problems have never came with the updates...
It's the face camping "get good" killers..
And the survivors that do nothing but farm the ######### outta you.. And proceed to tell you to get good.
Look at the game in whole... The whole toxic community..I mean ######### I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...Do you play killer? Then you should know the play style of people you have played many times before. You know what they are going to do. You know they will FL and tbag given the chance. You know they are the unhookers of the game. You know you have to get rid of them first to even stand a chance. That is how tight the tolerances can be in some games. We are talking seconds or one fudgeup away from a loss. This promotes tunneling and in some cases camping. Sorry. Those are the realities of DbD for a killer.
I actually do play killer
I play killer just as much as I play survivor..And I myself do not camp unless someone is horribly toxic..
if someone is just running to get away and not t-bagging or anything like that I hook and walk away..
But 95% of killers camp no matter what..
I dont flashlight save I dont tbag I don't do anything toxic but run to pallets and I get camped..Last night played someone who camped everyone they hooked well i happened to find a flashlight and I knew I was gonna get camped so why not try to blind em while breaking a pallet...
Killers cry that survivors are toxic but Killer are just as much toxic as the survivors are..
You can't have one without the other..
I dont play toxic survivor or killer..
But some people they can't help but to be toxic and its thats who you are then youll probably be camped and #########..
People talk about crying survivors with this new patch ..but Ive seen the camping get WORSE since the new patch..Im rank 4-5 not a new level 20 saying this..
And no its not always like that at all..I have not played a swf since the new season..Ive gotten complete tards for teammates who dont know how to get rid or ruins or who farms you or just hides in a locker the entire game lol..
and someones play style can change..so thats not valid at allUh, no. The ones who are most toxic are the survs. Overwhelmingly they are survs. How often do you get a killer who tells you to #########? As killer it happens so often i dont bother with end game chat. I am so nasty i even let them think that i am sticking around to listen to their diatribe and then close chat box while they are writing their nonsense.
Sure, "toxic" killers exist and i am not denying that however its mostly the survs who are that way and not the killers.
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They're upset they can't cheese their way out of hits and get a Sprint Burst 3 times per chase.
This only really hurts pallet loopers because they can't break LOS and juke the killer. Everyone else will do just fine. I play both sides and adapted to the changes immediately.2 -
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Did I make it in time for the circle jerk, guys??2
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
They're upset they can't cheese their way out of hits and get a Sprint Burst 3 times per chase.This only really hurts pallet loopers because they can't break LOS and juke the killer. Everyone else will do just fine. I play both sides and adapted to the changes immediately.
Yeah, this is honestly where most of the complaints are from. Don't get me wrong some toxic survivors are probably whining about harder flashlight blinds as well but most of the complaints seem to be directed towards exhaustion not regenerating while running. Makes sense though as I almost never see survivors walking around the trial. It's all Urban Evasion crouching or just running. Honestly, that's probably one of the biggest problems with the trials being so short. Gens are done fast because survivors get to them fast due to excessive running. The devs should just add a debuff called fatigue and have it apply to survivors that run outside of the terror radius for some amount of time. Make it prevent exhaustion perks from going off or something. All of the killers wouldn't need Hex: Ruin if the survivors walked everywhere.
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@Orion said:
Survivors are upset about the things you just said. They have this delusion that they're meant to be the power role.And this is what the bigger problem is: This whole Survivor vs. Killer propaganda.
Want to know the biggest reason this game seems to be in hell? Is because everyone can't seem to get along, it's always a he said she said kind of situation and it's even more sad that I have to point it out.
Anyway, who cares if they're upset. Go play your game and have fun.
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boy will the DS nerf be a sight to behold
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The review bombing when DS and Self Care get nerfed will be legendary. Remember to stock up your Fallout Shelter for when that Nuke hits folks.yeet said:boy will the DS nerf be a sight to behold
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Personally I think its down to survivors not wanting to try that little bit harder it may take to win chases against the killer. For survivors its 4 v 1 and for the killer its still 1 v 1. They should add a killer whose power is a flamethrower to counter survivors running across the same patches of grass and dirt to loop1
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That's the day, a new steam record will be broken.SovererignKing said:
The review bombing when DS and Self Care get nerfed will be legendary. Remember to stock up your Fallout Shelter for when that Nuke hits folks.yeet said:boy will the DS nerf be a sight to behold
Maybe they get their own achievement. Just for the 10.000+ down votes.
It will be a glorious day!2 -
@SovererignKing said:
yeet said:boy will the DS nerf be a sight to behold
The review bombing when DS and Self Care get nerfed will be legendary. Remember to stock up your Fallout Shelter for when that Nuke hits folks.
The forum will basically implode with survivor salt tbh. It will be like a tsunami of salty survivor tears crashing into the forum.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
They're upset they can't cheese their way out of hits and get a Sprint Burst 3 times per chase.This only really hurts pallet loopers because they can't break LOS and juke the killer. Everyone else will do just fine. I play both sides and adapted to the changes immediately.
The nerf to exhaustion was needed and ive since played the new 2.1.0. as surv. I used exhaustion perks but have now changed from SB to Lithe so i can use it on command and still run. With SB you cannot run in fear of settign it off. So i adapted and used lithe instead. I am doing better as surv than before the nerf so no idea what all the bitching is about.
Getting off 3 SB in a single chase was, in part, responsible for chases taking so long. They wanted chases to end sooner. Ok with me. This actually upped my mindgames game and am doing very well now with jungle gyms and some of the easier jukes that one can do. Like the vault juke. I laughed my ass off when i pulled that off. It felt good. I find surv far more stressful than killer. I must be in the minority.
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Because devs made it harder to bully bully clicky clicky
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Because survs are used to have the rounds handed and being able to meme, and are slowly feeling like they're losing control over the rounds since it's becoming slowly more and more balanced.
They now feel like they're gonna slowly have to actually step up their game, as they suggested to killers since day 1. And it just scares them because most people are totally disabled when playing this game and know they'll be eternally bad because they're incapable to think or to etablish a simple strategy.4 -
@MrsMaliciousX said:
I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...OH MY G. a hit list???? What a wonderful idea! im going to implement that in my games,i thought i wasnt going to get anything good from this post but.. wow!
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@Sehkmet said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...OH MY G. a hit list???? What a wonderful idea! im going to implement that in my games,i thought i wasnt going to get anything good from this post but.. wow!
Hit list huh?
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@Sehkmet said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
I've had SEVERAL killers tell me that they are part of a hit list and face camp certain people if they are in the lobby... Come on now...OH MY G. a hit list???? What a wonderful idea! im going to implement that in my games,i thought i wasnt going to get anything good from this post but.. wow!
I can confirm that quite a few hit lists do exist.
If some people ever wonder why they're getting consistently camped/mori'ed, it's very likely due to it. That's just what some people get for being overly toxic over the past years I guess.1 -
People actually confessed to intentional facecamping of certain users across games? Folks that is bannable, stop it.3
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Don't mistake my previous comment as disapproval. I hate the pickup blinds as much as everyone else. I just wanted to remind folks of a game rule. That way if they are ever found out they will know why they were banned.
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@Peasant said:
Don't mistake my previous comment as disapproval. I hate the pickup blinds as much as everyone else. I just wanted to remind folks of a game rule. That way if they are ever found out they will know why they were banned.I personally don't do it. But i guess they already know what they are getting into if they do understand the consequences.
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@Peasant said:
People actually confessed to intentional facecamping of certain users across games? Folks that is bannable, stop it.You cannot prevent people to have griefs against each others, even if you want it to be "bannable".
People will hate each others whatever the rules you try to put in. Especially when Toxicity is on the menu.
I personally exclusively mori people that I know are grieffers. Aka consistent ragequitters, cabling out conssitently to save items, abusive behaviors such as teabagging the whole round along with DS + Flashlight abuse, or people that just tells me to kill myself in the lategame chat, because even tho it's supposed to be "also bannable with perma", all the players I reported for telling me to "kill myself" (even repeatedly reported) are still playing with no problems right now.
So either I just let them on the go, or just ruin their day as they just try to ruin other people's day.It's just fairness, at least in my eyes. Maybe it's not, in reality, but I don't care much, it's just a game anyway.
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Eh, I just figured I'd just remind folks of the official rules as this sort of thing sounds like it falls under (repeated harassment) which is bannable. I can't stand toxic dirtbags either . . . I just don't want any more non-toxic players to leave whether it's their free will or the bad side of a ban hammer. The game needs more players.Runiver said:@Peasant said:
People actually confessed to intentional facecamping of certain users across games? Folks that is bannable, stop it.You cannot prevent people to have griefs against each others, even if you want it to be "bannable".
People will hate each others whatever the rules you try to put in. Especially when Toxicity is on the menu.
I personally exclusively mori people that I know are grieffers. Aka consistent ragequitters, cabling out conssitently to save items, abusive behaviors such as teabagging the whole round along with DS + Flashlight abuse, or people that just tells me to kill myself in the lategame chat, because even tho it's supposed to be "also bannable with perma", all the players I reported for telling me to "kill myself" (even repeatedly reported) are still playing with no problems right now.
So either I just let them on the go, or just ruin their day as they just try to ruin other people's day.It's just fairness, at least in my eyes. Maybe it's not, in reality, but I don't care much, it's just a game anyway.
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@brokedownpalace said:
Did I make it in time for the circle jerk, guys??If you missed this one another one will be just around the corner.
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@Peasant said:
Runiver said:@Peasant said:
People actually confessed to intentional facecamping of certain users across games? Folks that is bannable, stop it.
You cannot prevent people to have griefs against each others, even if you want it to be "bannable".
People will hate each others whatever the rules you try to put in. Especially when Toxicity is on the menu.
I personally exclusively mori people that I know are grieffers. Aka consistent ragequitters, cabling out conssitently to save items, abusive behaviors such as teabagging the whole round along with DS + Flashlight abuse, or people that just tells me to kill myself in the lategame chat, because even tho it's supposed to be "also bannable with perma", all the players I reported for telling me to "kill myself" (even repeatedly reported) are still playing with no problems right now.
So either I just let them on the go, or just ruin their day as they just try to ruin other people's day.
It's just fairness, at least in my eyes. Maybe it's not, in reality, but I don't care much, it's just a game anyway.
Eh, I just figured I'd just remind folks of the official rules as this sort of thing sounds like it falls under (repeated harassment) which is bannable. I can't stand toxic dirtbags either . . . I just don't want any more non-toxic players to leave whether it's their free will or the bad side of a ban hammer. The game needs more players.
As a matter of fact, non-toxic players are a rarity on this game at this point, since memes and toxicity is basically the norm now, around here. Either you embrace it, or you're better up to play another game/get ready for a huge disappointment, because even if you play fair, people will be overly toxic toward you and you'll feel betrayed.
This game is revolving about being abusive to one another. That's actually part of the marketing aspect in my opinion. Just look at Identity V if you got any doubts. It has the same exact flaws than Dbd day 1, aka abuse and infinites. I talk to dbd devs on a regular basis, and I can tell you one thing : they're not idiots. Which only leaves one way to go : it is just intentional, and basically a way to rack in players (and a majority of them, aka survivors) to keep playing the game. Once they're hooked, they just keep playing due to the added addictive factors in the game, along with the possibility of being abusive.
In doubt, just look at the eyes of any survivor streamer juking a killer, especially a baby killer. It should erase all your doubts about toxicity in this game.
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@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Survivors are mad because they're used to being favored by the devs. This is, however, changing a bit now and they replied with 440+ bad reviews on the game.
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@KillingInstinct said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Survivors are mad because they're used to being favored by the devs. This is, however, changing a bit now and they replied with 440+ bad reviews on the game.
Not to mention that throwing a tantrum, especially when it came to reviews, always served them well.
Look at where Freddy is at, right now, in any doubt, even tho he has been called "SUPER BROKEN OMG SO OP, P2W" at his release.2 -
@Runiver said:
@KillingInstinct said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Survivors are mad because they're used to being favored by the devs. This is, however, changing a bit now and they replied with 440+ bad reviews on the game.
Not to mention that throwing a tantrum, especially when it came to reviews, always served them well.
Look at where Freddy is at, right now, in any doubt, even tho he has been called "SUPER BROKEN OMG SO OP, P2W" at his release.They know this tho and are gonna give him a complete rework after the Wraith rework/buff
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@KillingInstinct said:
@Runiver said:
@KillingInstinct said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Survivors are mad because they're used to being favored by the devs. This is, however, changing a bit now and they replied with 440+ bad reviews on the game.
Not to mention that throwing a tantrum, especially when it came to reviews, always served them well.
Look at where Freddy is at, right now, in any doubt, even tho he has been called "SUPER BROKEN OMG SO OP, P2W" at his release.They know this tho and are gonna give him a complete rework after the Wraith rework/buff
Very likely. Tho, they still did a huge mistake back then and they are aware of it themselves. So there's no reasons for survivors not to try the same thing again.
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I think face camping is ok if the killer wants to do it. Killer loses a lot from doing this IF survivors make the most of the time they have which they generally don't. You can always attempt to unhook killer doesn't block off the unhook area so by all means face camp if you want but survivors be make every second count.2
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@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!By crying loud about minor nerfs they think they can prevent bigger nerfs in the future
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@Runiver said:
@KillingInstinct said:
@Runiver said:
@KillingInstinct said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!Survivors are mad because they're used to being favored by the devs. This is, however, changing a bit now and they replied with 440+ bad reviews on the game.
Not to mention that throwing a tantrum, especially when it came to reviews, always served them well.
Look at where Freddy is at, right now, in any doubt, even tho he has been called "SUPER BROKEN OMG SO OP, P2W" at his release.They know this tho and are gonna give him a complete rework after the Wraith rework/buff
Very likely. Tho, they still did a huge mistake back then and they are aware of it themselves. So there's no reasons for survivors not to try the same thing again.
basic learned behavior, it was rewarded once so the behavior is reinforced.
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@Master said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!By crying loud about minor nerfs they think they can prevent bigger nerfs in the future
I personally don't have an issue with the nerfs and so what it got review bombed by less than 500 people out of over 16k. What I find funny is when killers review bomb it for something it's ok but when survivors do it it's childish.
If only 450ish people review bombing can get under your skin you've got way more issues then. since the changes the devs are talking about again were discussed long ago. The same certain people are using the review bombs as an excuse to bash them the same as the survivors just did.
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When did the review bombing from the killer side happened? I can't recall it now.powerbats said:@Master said:
@popoles said:
I don't understand it. Nothing was done with looping in this patch, nor gentime. Just the FL saves are harder and the exhaustion is not recovering while running. Like TF?
You can still loop them for a long time. So stop being so childish and try to accept these changes!By crying loud about minor nerfs they think they can prevent bigger nerfs in the future
I personally don't have an issue with the nerfs and so what it got review bombed by less than 500 people out of over 16k. What I find funny is when killers review bomb it for something it's ok but when survivors do it it's childish.
If only 450ish people review bombing can get under your skin you've got way more issues then. since the changes the devs are talking about again were discussed long ago. The same certain people are using the review bombs as an excuse to bash them the same as the survivors just did.
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Well anything nerfing their precious Sprint Burst & Dead Hard is outrageous.
If they'd increase the Exhaustion cooldown by 1 second, already they'd bomb with negative reviews.0 -
@popoles said:
When did the review bombing from the killer side happened? I can't recall it now.Happened when the Nightmare, already a weak Killer, was nerfed into uselessness. People always try to equate Killers and Survivors complaining, but the truth is, Killers complain about balance, Survivors complain about not winning. The two sides are not equal.
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