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Franklin's + disconnect

Just wondering, because it just happened and yea a killer using Franklin's demise and then disconnect for the sake of the survivor losing the item followed by taunting in messages ( xbox ofcourse), reportable or not?


Thx

Answers

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342
    edited December 2019

    So if I understand you correctly, the killer used Franklin's Demise to knock the survivor's item out of their hand and then disconnected so the survivor lost their item?

    Unfortunately, I don't think that's reportable. Disconnecting from games is bannable, but not reportable (there's an automatic system that handles it).

    This is scummy behaviour for sure, but technically it's not breaking any rules other than the aforementioned DC abuse, mostly because there's no way to prove that they disconnected to deprive the survivor of their item and not for some unrelated reason.

  • Andy111777
    Andy111777 Member Posts: 62

    A screenshot of the guy's build ( only Franklin's) and then followed by a message saying bye bye flashlight doesn't suffice as proof of intentional DC for the sake of it?

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I suppose it would serve as proof, but again it technically doesn't break any rules. I just checked to make sure. I know it's not the answer you want - it's not really the answer I want to give either - but unfortunately I think that's the truth of the matter. If a developer were to correct me, I'd be glad to hear it.

    However, if he does it to the same survivor over multiple (like 5+) games, that may be grounds for a harrassment report, so keep an eye out.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314
    edited December 2019

    @Andy111777 @Fibijean

    The only thing this falls under is "Unsportsmanlike conduct" or "Griefing" in the report options during post-game... but that's it. (Unless he's specifically targeting one person, than that's harrasment as well, but it doesn't seem to be from how this post was written... if it was than that's also grounds for a possible temp-ban)

    It's not perma-bannable, but you can report for those two reasons above and if the criteria is met than they could be temp-banned for a set amount of time... repeated temp ban offenses can actually result in a perma-ban eventually.

    So actually Fibijean they can get banned if the criteria is met... that's up to BHVR to decide if that is worthy of a temp-ban though... he was technically griefing and abusing game-play through a DC... technically... again it's up to BHVR.

    But you can do those two reports in-game if you haven't done so already... if not it's too late.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342
    edited December 2019

    I meant to say that harassment was only if it were targeting one player specifically, but I realise my comment wasn't worded specifically enough, so my bad.

    However, I disagree that the circumstances outlined in the OP meet the criteria for a report or ban. The only things listed under "Unsportsmanlike Conduct" in the official Game Rules post (which is more up to date than what it says in-game, I believe) are botting, lag switching and disconnects (which are bannable but not reportable, as I mentioned). The only things listed under "Griefing: Intentional Gameplay Abuse" are working with the opposite team, targeting specific users repeatedly, and holding the game hostage. None of those things are what the killer was doing in the OP.

    I agree that it sounds like it should be punishable, but I answered the way I did because I think it's a bad idea to encourage people to report for things that sound reportable or that they think might be reportable if they're not explicitly listed in that Game Rules post, because that creates the potential for a lot of false reports on the basis of how one interprets a loose term like "griefing".

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    I'm just going off of the game rules temp ban names, I'd assume that also would count but I guess not.

    Anyways, the in-game report reasons should really be updated tbh... Maybe some of them are still up to date? Who knows, idk why they're still the same if they're not up to date...

    Regardless, he can still report him for those reasons, since it's stated in-game as a report reason... will he be temp-banned for it? Unlikely.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I believe Mandy mentioned that they were looking into updating the report system in the near future to make clearer what is and is not reportable so at least there's that.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314
    edited December 2019

    That's good to know...

    Now people can understand what is and isn't reportable a TAD bit more...