Marth88 leaves DbD due to game unbalance.

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  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    MuteNewt said:

    Thank you! Im glad I wasnt the only one that noticed his ego was well out of order. I wish people would stop promoting him like this. All he ever did was crap on the devs and the game anytime he lost a match.

    Where do you see his "ego"? I don't notice any ego, please tell me what you mean exactly. Don't be rude, just asking nicely.
  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    Nickenzie said:

    Why do we all care about what a youtuber thinks?

    He played the game for two years basically for both survivor and killer, he has been trying to tell the developers what's basically wrong with the game. I didn't post this because "OMG MARTH88 LEAVING!!!", it's because I want this to get the developers attention that the game is not in a great spot ATM. However they are making progress, BABY steps but that's better than taking steps backwards. Additionally if you don't care about what he thinks then why click on this thread?
    Yep news just in
    Devs are gutted Marth88 has left so are now gonna implement all his requested changes.....😂
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @maximus909 said:
    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Could you elaborate on that bump all killers got? Unless 2 killers = all killers.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @thesuicidefox said:
    If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

    People can change their mind. I know some alcoholics which sweared to stay sober...

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @maximus909 said:
    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Classic survivor main, heres nothing to see for you

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @pandorayr said:
    Marth has left playing because the developers they scold him for making rush-gen with friends, is so stupid to say "don't repair so fast" first fix your game, they can not hide the sun with a finger.

    Its like literally "dont play optimally, let the killer have a chance too" but on the same time they refuse to balance the game, just ridiculous.....

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Tsulan said:

    @thesuicidefox said:
    If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

    People can change their mind. I know some alcoholics which sweared to stay sober...

    No most players do it for attention TBH. It's always the same thing "game is broken, I'm not playing". 6 months later they show up at a tournament and get top 8. Seen it plenty, and I have been involved in multiple eSport communities and ran tournaments for almost 10 years.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @thesuicidefox said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @thesuicidefox said:
    If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

    People can change their mind. I know some alcoholics which sweared to stay sober...

    No most players do it for attention TBH. It's always the same thing "game is broken, I'm not playing". 6 months later they show up at a tournament and get top 8. Seen it plenty, and I have been involved in multiple eSport communities and ran tournaments for almost 10 years.

    Mhh interesting. I would like to elaborate this, but maybe on another thread. So we don´t derail this one.

  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    Paddy4583 said:

    Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.

    Eating is not a regular job
     ^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child. 
    I hope you aren't surprised.
  • Mesme
    Mesme Member Posts: 177

    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Mesme said:
    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    edited August 2018
    Who are you?   To say this below


     ^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child. 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Mesme said:

    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    In NO other game the balance issues were as outstanding and ridiculous as in DBD, and I've played a lot of unbalanced games^^

    Dbd is sick indeed and if we can believe the latest q&a then the devs plan to send a sick runner to a marathon.... we will see if he dies :wink:
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    Tsulan said:

    @Mesme said:
    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

    For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...
  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    Master said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mesme said:
    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

    For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...
    Rofl What skill does it take to basement camp? And select a Hex that will last 30 seconds lol

    I'm tired of these entitled face camping killers who thinks anybody cares what they think.

    Tell me when you walk more than 4 meters away from a hooked survivor then we can discuss skill
  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    "we all live for this game" #########? maybe you do but don't throw the whole community in with that silly comment.It's just a game, most of us play other games and do things other than gaming lol.

  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    @maximus909 said:
    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Marth88 is a god nurse and won his team a tourny because of it. Has plenty of videos with him dominating with her without perks too why would you think he can't win? (clearly you don't know who he is) He isn't complaining about not being capable of winning at all he is more than capable but that's not even the point. Sit down kid!

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    ChraizE said:

    @maximus909 said:
    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Marth88 is a god nurse and won his team a tourny because of it. Has plenty of videos with him dominating with her without perks too why would you think he can't win? (clearly you don't know who he is) He isn't complaining about not being capable of winning at all he is more than capable but that's not even the point. Sit down kid!

    I mean that isn't hard just saying
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @feffrey said:
    Master said:


    Tsulan said:

    @Mesme said:

    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

    For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...

    Rofl What skill does it take to basement camp? And select a Hex that will last 30 seconds lol

    I'm tired of these entitled face camping killers who thinks anybody cares what they think.

    Tell me when you walk more than 4 meters away from a hooked survivor then we can discuss skill

    According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    @feffrey said:
    ChraizE said:

    @maximus909 said:

    Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

    Marth88 is a god nurse and won his team a tourny because of it. Has plenty of videos with him dominating with her without perks too why would you think he can't win? (clearly you don't know who he is) He isn't complaining about not being capable of winning at all he is more than capable but that's not even the point. Sit down kid!

    I mean that isn't hard just saying

    prove it?

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

    Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

    Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

    I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SovererignKing said:
    Paddy4583 said:


    DeadByMemelight said:

    Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.

    Eating is not a regular job

     ^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child. 

    What could you expect from a typical survivor?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    feffrey said:
    Master said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mesme said:
    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

    For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...
    Rofl What skill does it take to basement camp? And select a Hex that will last 30 seconds lol

    I'm tired of these entitled face camping killers who thinks anybody cares what they think.

    Tell me when you walk more than 4 meters away from a hooked survivor then we can discuss skill
    It doesn't take any skill to basement camp, nobody claimed that. We were talking about xperienced killers leaving the game. It will be the basement campers that stay.

    Face camping has been removed btw, but maybe you are a new player and don't rven know what face camping means, I will forgive you


    Oh and btw, if you lose vs a killer standing 4m away from the hook, then you should think what you have done wrong and how to improve, I'll give you a tip. It's not the solution to throw yourself at the hook and then blame the killer for camping afterwards :wink:
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    feffrey said:
    Master said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mesme said:
    EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

    DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

    For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...
    Rofl What skill does it take to basement camp? And select a Hex that will last 30 seconds lol

    I'm tired of these entitled face camping killers who thinks anybody cares what they think.

    Tell me when you walk more than 4 meters away from a hooked survivor then we can discuss skill
    It doesn't take any skill to basement camp, nobody claimed that. We were talking about xperienced killers leaving the game. It will be the basement campers that stay.

    Face camping has been removed btw, but maybe you are a new player and don't rven know what face camping means, I will forgive you


    Oh and btw, if you lose vs a killer standing 4m away from the hook, then you should think what you have done wrong and how to improve, I'll give you a tip. It's not the solution to throw yourself at the hook and then blame the killer for camping afterwards :wink:
  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    edited August 2018
    ChraizE said:

    "we all live for this game" #########? maybe you do but don't throw the whole community in with that silly comment.It's just a game, most of us play other games and do things other than gaming lol.

    Again, that comment is to stress the point about how much we love DbD. Please don't be rude and you know what I meant by saying "We all live for this game", it's because we love DbD so much.
  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,237

    Game is at its best point it has ever been. And it's still going in the right direction. He should stop crying

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Nick said:
    Game is at its best point it has ever been. And it's still going in the right direction. He should stop crying

    That nerfing bloodlust to the ground, giving free SB after the hook, or free pallet hits, while not nerfing pallet looping is going to the right direction, you say?

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @RSB said:

    @Nick said:
    Game is at its best point it has ever been. And it's still going in the right direction. He should stop crying

    That nerfing bloodlust to the ground, giving free SB after the hook, or free pallet hits, while not nerfing pallet looping is going to the right direction, you say?

    Hey, as long as killers manage to get a kill, it´s totally balanced!
    /S

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,237

    That nerfing bloodlust to the ground, giving free SB after the hook, or free pallet hits, while not nerfing pallet looping is going to the right direction, you say?

    The hook idea is ridiculous and they will put it in a PTB first. When do you use bloodlust 3 though?

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Nick said:

    The hook idea is ridiculous and they will put it in a PTB first. When do you use bloodlust 3 though?

    You should play wraith, you'll be very surprised.
  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    All the skilled killers are leaving?
     
    I haven't seen any to start with
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

    Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

    I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.

    So when killers insult survivors after a nice and fair match because they didn't get 4k with camping. But complain when survivors call them out on it after they did it with no gens even being done. See the rampant hypocrisy here, you same killers post the same thing over and over again oh woe is me. You didn't even bother trying to answer my post but yet instead went with the classic logical fallacy argument.

    Then several post later we see the same tired drivel and true post from you and some others. Just fing uninstall the game and leave already. Most of the community including a lot of your fellow killers on here are sick and tired of the crybaby attitude.

    You lot keep thinking the game will die, it won't and people will adapt just as they do in other regions when there's an imbalance on one side. The reason you won't is because then you'll realize your threats and insuations are meaningless. You're not irreplaceable anymore than anyone else is and people come and go all the time.

    But if you stay and follow through on the threat to only play survivor side we'll see what you're really like then. You don't really care about the community because if you did you wouldn't be sitting there calling for strikes constantly (before the mods started nailing ppl). You also wouldn't be threatening to screw over your fellow gamers by only playing 1 side just to ruin their queue times.

    So it's time to either put up or shut up and prove you're an adult and actually stop whining about how bad you've got it. I've been playing games since the 70's and the issues this game has are nothing compared to others that've been out there.

    Lastly I'm glad the mods are more active here, there's been less whiny rant threads being endlessly spammed, we've got more mod involvement trying to discuss things. If the endless woe is me crap stops we'd probably have even more mod and possibly dev involvement. Since right now why would they come on here and discuss things only to be endlessly insulted by the same few spewing the same stuff repeatedly?

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    50 minutes?
    Think of me what you want, and Marth's great, but i don't got the patience for that.
    If anyone has the time and the willpower to write me a TL;DW version, that'd be great.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Boss said:

    50 minutes?
    Think of me what you want, and Marth's great, but i don't got the patience for that.
    If anyone has the time and the willpower to write me a TL;DW version, that'd be great.

    I already did in my OP. Check it out. :)
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Nickenzie said:
    Boss said:

    50 minutes?

    Think of me what you want, and Marth's great, but i don't got the patience for that.

    If anyone has the time and the willpower to write me a TL;DW version, that'd be great.

    I already did in my OP. Check it out. :)

    Oh, that is the TL;DW?
    My apologies, i'll get to it :p ...

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Boss said:

    Oh, that is the TL;DW?
    My apologies, i'll get to it :p ...

    It's all cool, at least your not like the others that don't care about the VALID points that Marth88 made. Have at it my fellow killer buddy! :)
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Oh.
    Not to dismiss the post nor his farewell video and its content, but this isn't anything new to me coming from him.
    In fact, the one new thing i know now is that the DbD community (temporarily) loses a great player.

    Anyway, i agree partially with him.
    And i'm not going to state what i agree and disagree with, as i refuse to be part of the comment war. :p

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

    Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

    I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.

    So when killers insult survivors after a nice and fair match because they didn't get 4k with camping. But complain when survivors call them out on it after they did it with no gens even being done. See the rampant hypocrisy here, you same killers post the same thing over and over again oh woe is me. You didn't even bother trying to answer my post but yet instead went with the classic logical fallacy argument.

    Then several post later we see the same tired drivel and true post from you and some others. Just fing uninstall the game and leave already. Most of the community including a lot of your fellow killers on here are sick and tired of the crybaby attitude.

    You lot keep thinking the game will die, it won't and people will adapt just as they do in other regions when there's an imbalance on one side. The reason you won't is because then you'll realize your threats and insuations are meaningless. You're not irreplaceable anymore than anyone else is and people come and go all the time.

    But if you stay and follow through on the threat to only play survivor side we'll see what you're really like then. You don't really care about the community because if you did you wouldn't be sitting there calling for strikes constantly (before the mods started nailing ppl). You also wouldn't be threatening to screw over your fellow gamers by only playing 1 side just to ruin their queue times.

    So it's time to either put up or shut up and prove you're an adult and actually stop whining about how bad you've got it. I've been playing games since the 70's and the issues this game has are nothing compared to others that've been out there.

    Lastly I'm glad the mods are more active here, there's been less whiny rant threads being endlessly spammed, we've got more mod involvement trying to discuss things. If the endless woe is me crap stops we'd probably have even more mod and possibly dev involvement. Since right now why would they come on here and discuss things only to be endlessly insulted by the same few spewing the same stuff repeatedly?

    I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

    Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

    I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

    To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
    Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

    Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
    If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
    And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
    No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

    Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
    We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

    If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Tsulan said:

    I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

    Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

    I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

    To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
    Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

    Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
    If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
    And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
    No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

    Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
    We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

    If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

    Nice counter claim and rebuttal! :+1:
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

    I never anywhere said I constantly encounter killers which insult me but nice deflection just as i stated you'd do. So that'd mean I'm the problem here at all but you that keeps trying the logical fallacies. It's also a logical fact that since there's more survivors in a lobby then killers you'd get more chances of having a toxic survivor.

    Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

    I'm telling you and the other killers calling for strikes or insinuating it to uninstall the game and prove you're not going to play. I'm asking for those like several on here that've said they'll purposely play only survivor to screw over the rest of the community out of spite. The toxic ones are the ones claiming for strikes and or insinuating it and saying they'll screw the rest of the community over by doing the above. So that means that some of the good killers you speak of are in fact toxic.

    I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

    **I'm specifically referring to those who you keep saying good job, agree with and upvote them everytime they say that. There's one in this very forum and never once have you or anyone of the rest of you called them out on it. Also if you're only going to play survivor just to screw people over with longer queue times you're no different than the rest of the people calling for strikes.

    Also whether you were warned or not is besides the point, the message got through loud and clear to stop calling for strikes. That was my point so now it's insulations of a strike or that killers are going to leave etc.**

    To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
    Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

    So how often does that happen? Do you just magically always seem to get those types of matches so wouldn't that make you the problem as you said to me? I can count on 1 hand the amount f times it's happened to me. It's common sense that you'll get those types of matches and there's jerks in every community.

    **You're also forgetting that every time there's an event the toxic jerks come out of the woodwork. Throw in FTP and it gets that much more worse. Have you already forgotten how bad it was during the double BP event last month during FTP? **

    Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
    If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
    And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
    No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

    **Again with the deflections and distortions it's obvious you can't rebut my arguments and again go for the classic Logical Fallacy. I also find it hard to believe you've never ever been face camped once since everyone has been at least one. I also never ever said I always get facecamped but yet again the distortions of what I said continue.

    So that'd mean I don't always get facecamped by every killer I meet since I've made plenty of friends with killers post game. I've been given props for being cool and been thanked for giving myself up for hooks to the killer. Ah yes the classic troll response I've come to expect more insults My aptitude is fine and I don't have anger issues but you seem to want to project badly.

    But then it'd mean I'm not the problem but your incessant need to insult anyone that disagrees with you or points out flaws in your posts.**

    Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
    We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

    If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

    Yes adults can complain about a problem but adults also don't throw out the non stop insults at those that disagree like you and the rest seem to do in almost every post. I agree with the right to complain but where I disagree is how you lot choose to complain.

    You and the rest always insult survivors as if they're the ones causing the problems. Anyone that posts something you don't like gets blasted as a survivor main, biased or any of the other countless insults. When that doesn't work you try the logical fallacy route and distort what they said.

    I agree with the need to buff killers and fix maps and have offered lots of suggestions on how to do things without breaking game balance. I advocated for the self care nerf because i thought it was needed and fair. I like the DS nerf and think they should add to it flashlight immunity for the killer during stun. (I'll explain that in another thread.)

    I want them to remove pallets or at least really spread them out, I want more stealthy game play where there's no need for endless looping spots. What I want is a true horror game where killers have the power role but survivors have a chance to get out by playing smartly.

    Lastly I'd like to see the insults and distortions and deflections stop just because someone doesn't like what's posted.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Nickenzie said:

    Nice counter claim and rebuttal! :+1:

    Ummn no and you know why it wasn't since if you'd read what I said you'd know he distorted what I said. But given your responses so far no surprising.

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited August 2018


    Yeah something tells me that im not gonna miss that attitude.
    Post edited by ChesterTheMolester on
  • marth88gaming
    marth88gaming Member Posts: 20
    edited August 2018

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Yeah something tells me that im not gonna miss that attitude.

    You right he has a ######### attitude screw him lol

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited August 2018

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Yeah something tells me that im not gonna miss that attitude.

    Someone who can crack a joke about themselves and playing off the guys name... The dudes name is teletubbie give me a break man. Some people need to get some sticks out there ass

    He comes across as a guy so full of himself that the thought that someone might not know him gets him triggered. Calling it a joke doesnt make that seem better at all.
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273


    Yeah something tells me that im not gonna miss that attitude.
    You post a smartass remark like “who the ######### cares” like nobody is supposed to give a #########, then get all pissy when he responds with a with a snarky rib at your name? Nice. 
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273

    powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

    I never anywhere said I constantly encounter killers which insult me but nice deflection just as i stated you'd do. So that'd mean I'm the problem here at all but you that keeps trying the logical fallacies. It's also a logical fact that since there's more survivors in a lobby then killers you'd get more chances of having a toxic survivor.

    Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

    I'm telling you and the other killers calling for strikes or insinuating it to uninstall the game and prove you're not going to play. I'm asking for those like several on here that've said they'll purposely play only survivor to screw over the rest of the community out of spite. The toxic ones are the ones claiming for strikes and or insinuating it and saying they'll screw the rest of the community over by doing the above. So that means that some of the good killers you speak of are in fact toxic.

    I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

    **I'm specifically referring to those who you keep saying good job, agree with and upvote them everytime they say that. There's one in this very forum and never once have you or anyone of the rest of you called them out on it. Also if you're only going to play survivor just to screw people over with longer queue times you're no different than the rest of the people calling for strikes.

    Also whether you were warned or not is besides the point, the message got through loud and clear to stop calling for strikes. That was my point so now it's insulations of a strike or that killers are going to leave etc.**

    To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
    Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

    So how often does that happen? Do you just magically always seem to get those types of matches so wouldn't that make you the problem as you said to me? I can count on 1 hand the amount f times it's happened to me. It's common sense that you'll get those types of matches and there's jerks in every community.

    **You're also forgetting that every time there's an event the toxic jerks come out of the woodwork. Throw in FTP and it gets that much more worse. Have you already forgotten how bad it was during the double BP event last month during FTP? **

    Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
    If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
    And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
    No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

    **Again with the deflections and distortions it's obvious you can't rebut my arguments and again go for the classic Logical Fallacy. I also find it hard to believe you've never ever been face camped once since everyone has been at least one. I also never ever said I always get facecamped but yet again the distortions of what I said continue.

    So that'd mean I don't always get facecamped by every killer I meet since I've made plenty of friends with killers post game. I've been given props for being cool and been thanked for giving myself up for hooks to the killer. Ah yes the classic troll response I've come to expect more insults My aptitude is fine and I don't have anger issues but you seem to want to project badly.

    But then it'd mean I'm not the problem but your incessant need to insult anyone that disagrees with you or points out flaws in your posts.**

    Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
    We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

    If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

    Yes adults can complain about a problem but adults also don't throw out the non stop insults at those that disagree like you and the rest seem to do in almost every post. I agree with the right to complain but where I disagree is how you lot choose to complain.

    You and the rest always insult survivors as if they're the ones causing the problems. Anyone that posts something you don't like gets blasted as a survivor main, biased or any of the other countless insults. When that doesn't work you try the logical fallacy route and distort what they said.

    I agree with the need to buff killers and fix maps and have offered lots of suggestions on how to do things without breaking game balance. I advocated for the self care nerf because i thought it was needed and fair. I like the DS nerf and think they should add to it flashlight immunity for the killer during stun. (I'll explain that in another thread.)

    I want them to remove pallets or at least really spread them out, I want more stealthy game play where there's no need for endless looping spots. What I want is a true horror game where killers have the power role but survivors have a chance to get out by playing smartly.

    Lastly I'd like to see the insults and distortions and deflections stop just because someone doesn't like what's posted.

    Label everything as a “Logical fallacy” and say they are “twisting and distorting your words” when they really aren’t every time you back yourself into a corner and make a stupid comment. Never change Powerbats, it’s fun watching you make an ass out of yourself publicly.