The devs dont deserve all this hate
Honestly many people on the forums are just being so rude and nasty its heart breaking. Everyone is going off how they are survivor sided. The only thing I believe that is upon their fault was the wording in the developer notes. Every other problem they've gave an explanation for.
The ruin change was something that upset many people because a mass amount of people used it. People are complaining because their games are done too fast. I get the argument that u cant get to a gen before its completed, but how many times has that truly happened to you? Or is everyone saying that because it happened to somebody they were watching. Everyone please take a moment and consider all the games. People only tend to remember the bad ones. As a whole of this game really that bad atm? People have been playing without ruin before, why cant you? I used to use ruin but I've had to learn to play differently. All the unnecessary hate is really uncalled for.
One of the things i hate the most is when people berate the devs like @Peanits and @Almo. Saying how they dont know how to play their game. Have u guys even seen them play before. I havent seen almo truthfully but peanits is pretty good and knows what hes talking about. Everyone acts like they dont know their own game and are bad.
All in all can we please make the forums a better place. There are too many posts about "nerf survivor they have ds,adrenaline dh". Instead of bashing out people and the devs, give constructive criticism where a peaceful discussion can take place. It is those posts they tend to take feedback from and reply to. I probably will get a lot of hate for this but the amount of negativity in this forum os shameful.
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You must be new to the game. You clearly don't know the full history of their PR, among other shenanigans.
I think that when a game developer has never released an update that didn't break at least three things, some of those things STILL being broken to this very day after years, they deserve what they get.
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I'm not new but I wouldn't consider myself veteran. Been playing since clown release. I can understand the annoyance of stuff breaking. It's probably because everything is connected and changing one thing will mess up another. But the hatred people have for them and the blame is over the top...
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I do agree with some of your statements. Yes, I wish the forums would be a better place. I would say I am more sided with the killer POV, but when I am disagreeing with someone, I try to bring up the past updates, videos, ect with my argument, not just be pissy and say stuff like "your trash, git gud".
But, the main thing I do disagree with is the the hate that people are giving to the devs. Not all of them are bad, mind you, but the approaches they have taken are starting to backfire in the community.
For a time, there have been problems on both sides of the spectrum, and instead of trying to fix it in the game, they give a perk for it instead. A couple examples are:
Camping: borrowed time
Tunneling: DS
Lots of pallets: spirit fury
Slower killers: PWYF
There are more, but I just wanted to give a small sample.
Well, against solo survivor teams, I agree that this is alright.
But for swf, the only really good slowdown perk was ruin (for early game), and now there is nothing that 90% of killers can do. Billy is the only killer, IMO, that can apply any early game pressure atm. Not even Nurse can do it as well.
Killers have been begging for something, but ruin was the only thing they had. Now, there isnt anything. On top of that, after the community put in feedback for the PTB, one of the devs made a post saying that killers are wrong, and on another post agreeing with someone saying that killers that use ruin aren't good enough to be in red ranks.
I agree that constructive criticism is needed to the community, but I do not feel bad on some of the dev team.
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I hadn't viewed it like that. That makes a lot more sense to me now
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I have thousands of hours invested into this game and have spent a lot of money on content, and the changes they've made over the past patches are making all that time and money spent seemingly worthless. If I quit because the design choices they make, then in my opinion I wasted my money.
Honestly, the problem isn't that Ruin was changed, it's the problem that Ruin covered up, and is no longer covered up. They unearthed this problem but did nothing to address it.
What's frustrating people is that half of the killers cannot get around the map fast enough to be competitive, yet the developers don't seem willing to recognize that it's an issue. On the other hand, they change the game for survivors claiming that the game isn't fun, or they change the spirit because she's 'not fair' but as far as gen times are concerned, they aren't as concerned with that fairness. That makes people mad, because people feel like they're being tricked and taken advantage of.
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I feel this is understating the problems greatly, but yeah.
I honestly dont understand why people even bother to play Killer when over the years BHVR has made it crystal-clear that they do not care about Killer players and just want them to be punching bags to entertain Survivor players. Any issues Killer players have are routinely derided, dismissed, or ignored by the developers.
I stopped playing Killer a long, long ago because of this behaviour from the devs, and they do not show any signs of stopping it any time soon.
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