No love to the Chainsaw
Honestly I have no problem with a lot of the killers. Sure the Doctor could use some rework ( to many passive stuff ). That said Chainsaw players who only use the Chainsaw are the worst. Billy is ok-ish on this front cause he moves in a somewhat linear way. Leather Face how ever is so broken with his chain saw and speed that I question why he has a M1 button. I would just like to see either a longer charge up or he move slower. As it is, I see no downside to him using it. He still moves fine, moves faster, drops you in one hit. I Don't know, could just be me. What do you think.
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Leatherface...broken...
I can't. I just can't.
The only way Leatherface is broken is that he hasn't been significantly buffed.
Excellent first post, btw.
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Welcome to dbd! In meta play, Billy is actually much stronger than bubba because Billy can traverse the map at high speeds and cut loops short quickly with precision.
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Everything there is true - except for the "precision" part.
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Imagine thinking a killer who's power is a massive hinderance, can't be use for what it's intended for and is only good against brainlet survivors.
Thanks for the laugh! 👍
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Well you can't pick up Billy and be immediately god tier...then again I'm speaking from console perspective where max sensitivity doesn't even whip your camera around.
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This is why I can't take survivors seriously. Most of them a ######### garbage and would rather have the game be dumbed down for their lack of skill and brain cells. Out off all the problems in this game and you think Bubba is one of them... LMAO!
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There is one point, like 1 to 1.5 seconds at the beginning of Billy's chainsaw, where he has amazing control. Other than that, there's not a lot of precision. It's "go in a general direction while giving survivors a huge tell that you're on your way, and thus ample time to dodge".
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Ok...so there is precision then?
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I don't mind Billy's personally. But the ones who just chainsaw everything in sight, nope. I respect a Billy that doesn't just rely on a easy down. I've met a fair few who are fantastic to go against that really tested my skill
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It's hard to refer to it as precision. There's 1.5 seconds of possible precision. I say possible because it's right at the beginning of his chainsaw (as opposed to what you referred to, being during the charge or near the end), and it's a super high sensitivity (comparable to insane Halo sensitivity from back in the day...move your mouse a centimetre, do 18 360s). Most players have a hard time adapting to that high of a sensitivity.
But during the charge, when you'll use it the most, there is none.
If the Billy gets an "easy down" with a chainsaw, it's entirely because the survivor allowed it to happen. It's insanely easy to force a Billy to M1. Also - M1ing is far easier than using the chainsaw.
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Not using a killer's power = testing your skill? 🤔 A Hillbilly that doesn't use his power = a good Hillbilly? That's what your comment sounds like.
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Whether or not they get chainsawed depends on the survivor's competence, maybe this is something you're lacking?
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As a survivor main... I agree...
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That's not how I meant it, I just mean constantly spamming it really doesn't require much skill to take someone down. Where a mix and match is more fun to go against than just being hooked every 5 seconds.
You assume I can't dodge a Billy's chainsaw? Sure, there are times I mess up, and I'll openly admit when I do, but I can counter him when I have a good area to run him in.
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Low quality bait, plague being OP is a much more realistic rant.
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Dude leatherface requires decent addons to even notice his odd ramp up when chainsawing. Base leather belongs in the dumpster.
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What
Bubba is literally the 2nd or 3rd worst killer.
Ok, maybe he is good at yellow ranks.
But bubba's skill celling and pressure on bigger maps is so ######### low its laughable. If you think bubba is strong then just git gud. Not sure how can you call Billy weaker at the same time but ok
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I came here expecting someone wanting buffs for Bubba, but now I'm not sure what "love to the chainsaw" means.
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I am a billy main "ish". I like variety, so I don't play him all day long. However, with that said, I am a Billy who mostly chainsaws. M1 is simple, and so predictable. You either hit the survivor because of their mistake or miss because of yours. I find pleasure in using the chainsaw, because there is a skill cap between survivor and Billy. I love getting the hit AND getting dodged. It's lime an adrenaline rush. I do it, because the predictability varies, you don't always get the survivor, and if you miss, at least when I do, is because the survivor made a good read and outplayed me. I prefer that feeling over than just missing because either or making a "mistake". To me, personally, Billy is the most balanced in the game, or at least, one of those that is balanced. His add-ons do give him more strength, but base Billy (not accounting for perks) is a relatively balanced bapey boy.
Can't remember which youtuber said it best, but you two types of Billies. The Millies, who M1 all the time and almost never use or try to use their chainsaw. And then there are the Billies. Who only use their chainsaw. Often more times than not, they don't heal, they being survivors, and even then I still do my chainsaw. It's just too addicting not to.
Bubba, however, I haven't played Bubba biy, I do know, based on going against him, that he is a weaker killer. I can't tell you how often I was able to dodge his chainsaw, time it just right, etc, when I was in a goodspot. Bubba is best for punishing deadzones, hookbombing, and bad positions. That is it. A good survivor can position themself well if they are prepared and understand when, where, and why they go next. Not saying you are bad. Maybe you were unlucky and were caught out in the open. Bubba, for survivors, is almost all about timing. Make note of what addons he is using, so you can prepare for the chases to come, or even the one you are in at the moment.
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A good Youtuber I know calls them SkillBillies.
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He can be so much fun.
Ahahha I love that. SkillBillies
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Honestly, I tought you were gonna talk about buffs. 4/10 bait; already too many people used bubba as bait so that was an bad play, but saying billy was fine got me real good, you're most likely new to bait posts.
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You're right. Leatherface IS broken. He's an absolutely horrible killer and needs buffs.
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You just gotta love when survivors get a nerf they asked for. They just get on the binge train 🤣
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So apparently you think I'm a dumb survivor? Nah far from that. I love the game and played it on and off since release. My issue isn't really Bubba or Billy. My issue is the fact that they don't have to work for it. Take my favorite killer Michael. He needs to stalk you to build his Evil Within to be able to one shot. Doing this makes him move slow and he can only 1 shot for x amount of time, unless he has his add-on. See, there is an actual mechanic to it. The Doctor just got reworked and now his ability has a 1 minute CD, thus it needs to be used wisely. Revving up a chainsaw that can one shot any one with not downside associated to it is frankly "ehh" and it sucks cause I feel like I cant give props to the killer for wining cause its not really earned.
I will agree that at higher ranks he becomes less viable due to lack of pressure. That said that's at high rank. So when i have to play with people who all need feel the need to save some one or run around all day and not work on the gen it compounds.
Other killers have the similar functions of 1 shot but have mechanics behind the use of it and that's what makes it balanced. Running from Bubba's Chainsaw just so the can rev up again instantly makes me say "really my dude this all you going to do". I would like simply a mechanic behind it. The Trapper had to go around getting traps, Jigsaw and Freddy require us to interact with an object, Maybe Billy and Bubba need to refuel. <--- just a suggestion. This is not a rage rant, its merely an observational thing.
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You clearly are if you think Bubba is a problem. Bubba's chainsaw revving movement is 87.5%, a survivors running speed is 100% so unless your sniffing the survivors arsehole, you won't catch them. Even then a good survivor will reach a pallet or window.
You can do a simple juke and abuse his fov and the survivor is out of reach, because Bubba is too ######### slow. Bubba's chainsaw cannot be used at loops because he's too slow and cannot hug the loop due to the awful and Buggy tantrum. Bubba can only use his chainsaw in an open field because every object cucks is garbage, useless ######### power.
Bubba is reliant on addons and PWYF (a gimmick perk to use his power in chase...
Yeah great ######### killer right there...
In conclusion Bubba is a ######### joke and needs a serious buff/rework along side Clown. Any one complaining about Bubba is a dumbarse. As for Billy, remove his broken combo's, simple as.
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I'm not arguing anymore because It's not worth my time talking to someone who thinks Bubba needs a nerf.
Bye
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Bubba has quite a few counters to his chainsaw.
its actually so many, that many play him as a normal M1 killer and only using the chainsaw to break down pallets or defend a hook.
here, i'll list you some pros and cons to his chainsaw and tell you how to behave when he uses it (excluding add ons, general information)
pros:
- has a faster pallet breaking tool
- has an instadown
- can down multiple players at once
- can steer his chainsaw without any penalities
- has an area of effect that gets damaged, therefore its hard to avoid the chainsaw
cons:
- has a limited usage of the chainsaw before he needs to redo the whole action
- gets slowed down uppon charging the chainsaw
- starts at a slowed movementspeed during his chainsaw "sprint" and slowly falls back into his normal movementspeed
- cancelling the chainsaw will render him immobile for an additional second
- he cant cancel his chainsaw run at will
- hitting an object will cause him to enter a tantrum and swing wildly at whatever is in range without being able to move
here is what you can do against bubba:
- do NOT get cought in the open. his long charge time and the additional slow down makes it almost impossible to use the chainsaw at loops
- do not throw down a pallet when he starts charging the chainsaw. when he does that, he gets slowed down so massively, that he wont be able to catch up to you until you reach the pallet again.
- try using windows. those are his biggest weakness, as he cant get around them in his chainsaw run
- when he does catch you out in the open, hug an object and run circles around it. if you're lucky he messes up and eigther cant hit you with the chainsaw or he bumps into the object, stunning himself
- do NOT try to save a friend on a hook with him nearby.
- when there is a locker nearby, you can completely avoid his chainsaw by jumping when he revs it and out when he cancels is or when he is in the final swing of his tantrum animation.
you see, its a long list.
bubba really aint that great of a killer.
i hope i could help you with your future bubba games ^^
oh and if you want to know his best add ons: both speed add ons. the knife scratches and doom marks i believe they are called.. if you face one with these add ons, you gotta be very careful. he is still not a great killer (no tracking, no map pressure), but he is a lot deadlier in a chase.
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