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Gen rushed 3 gens in 1:45 seconds
This was my first game of the day so I did make a mistake or two I’d also like to say I just started playing oni aswell but my god how in the world is this even fair? They only had 2 yellow toolbox’s
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I’d also like to say that I did kill them all but only because I slugged everyone of them during blood fury
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I'll lead with this: Early game does need a slowdown with Ruin changed. Games are too fast and not really fun for either side.
That being said, please don't act like this is the only reason you got popped on. You made several mistakes in your chase, which should've ended much sooner. You have NO pressure perks at all. It also doesn't really help you when you confess that you got a 4k anyway. "OMG I got genrushed PLS FIX... even though it didn't matter in the end."
Just add your voice to any of the multitude of impatient, indignant killer main threads instead of embarrassing yourself. Try and familiarize yourself with BHVRs mindset on the recent issues.
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So because I still got the 4K or made 1 or 2 mistakes made my point invalid?
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Partially, yes.
You ended up with the 4K, so clearly the genrush didn't affect much. However, I am willing to bet they started getting cocky and making dumb plays.
I main Legion at Rank 1 on Xbox, I only win when Survivors let me, but I play pretty much perfectly. I rely on their mistakes to win.
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Enough time to watch an anime op lmaooo
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They became over altruistic and I got them all with my ability..imagine if I was playing someone like clown tho or legion or even bubba that game would have gone differently oni has amazing snowball potential
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We don’t want you here! Lol the name fits you well
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You still would have gotten them. I have 4K'd 17 games in a row with Legion. If you get good enough at punishing their mistakes, you will win almost every game.
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You can’t automatically say “you’d still win” especially on a corn map with a killer like bubba or clown or even legion yes it’s possible but you could still lose especially if the survivors don’t become over altruistic or cocky and stay on gens
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This game is completely broken. How dare survivors complete any gens at all? They should spawn right next to hooks and just wait for you to come down and hook them.
Do you realize how ridiculous it is to complain about a game you still slaughtered them in? It doesn't matter if they did three gens in two minutes or twenty. They only got three done and all died.
If anything this is a damning indictment that killers are too powerful and the unlimited self pick-ups of no mother should be baseline. Until killers are incapable of snowballing a game from nothing to 4k in less than a minute, gen times are more than fair.
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I've gotten Rotten Fields 3 times in those last 20ish games. Every time it was with Legion. Survivors did gens, I got downs. Hooked one in the basement and applied Sloppy to everyone. They kept trying to heal and it cost them the game.
They kept trying to do gens near the end, hard to do gens while you are one hit.
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Ok ? FunGoose won 116 games as plague in a row ...so does that mean plague is over powered? My point is still valid gens do go to fast and yes I might have 4Kd but only because these survivors became to cocky and didn’t really know how to loop
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He made mistakes but even then the chase weren't that long and even if he had ended it sooner, he would only have enough time to pressure one of the three gens which means two gens lost and there's also the possibility of the survivors hiding near a gen or If he finds a survivor at a gen he would have to get into another chase. He would be forced to either finish the next chase early or protect the third gen which is probably at 50%..This is also if he gets lucky and approaches a gen that's being done, he may go to a wrong gen and results would be similar.
Also Imagine he was trapper or hag.
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Mistakes that I saw.
0:23-0:24 Free hit as you didn't see the arm of steve but heard him afterwards i assume.
0:33 -> You try to mindgame when Steve has full vision of you, mindgames only do work when the survivor does lose sight of you. So probably woulda been faster to just go to the pallet and break it, or try a mindgame via go to the pallet and act as if you want to break it so the survivor runs away from the loop and you follow immediately after.
Generally I think after you injured the survivor it is rather important to absorb orbs instead of downing him. But it is ok, seems like you are leveling oni at the moment.
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It just makes your point inconsistent. Early game is when a killer has the least amount of pressure. You made several (not one or two) mistakes and still managed to get a 4k. What transpires is that instead of getting a 4k with X gens left, you wanted a 4k with 5 gens left.
As an addendum, don't fall for the trap many players in this forum are victim of. EIther as a survivor or killer, chances are it's not the game's fault when you do bad, but simply that you're overestimating your abilities.
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No, it means he is a good Killer and knows how to play Plague to a maximum efficiency.
People get OP Killer and good player confused a lot. He likely punished their mistakes and they lost because of it.
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It’s just not fun having 3 gens go in the first 1:45 of the match it puts a lot of pressure on the killer and just not fun lol gen rush is real and if I played a killer like bubba this game probably would have gone differently
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He still killed every last one of them. He's complaining that he won. That he had to try. If you can't see the absurdity of that complaint, then you are also horribly biased towards the idea that you should 4k every game without effort.
He played against tryhard survivors, so he actually had to try. You aren't going to earn sympathy with whining about that.
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Agree...nerf slugrush!
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You are blind ..truly lol I’m not complaining about winning I’m complaining about gen rushing and how stressful it is it simply is not fun for killers
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Which translates to being upset that a group of survivors made you try. This is far beyond the average rate gens are done and you still slaughtered them. Sounds to me like the only possible complaint is the rate at which you can down them. If they can all died that fast, then they should be able to win that fast purely for the sake of fairness.
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Everyone is bitching about the video where Otz gets genrushed despite the survivors making a lot of mistakes and him applying a hella lot of map pressure in the beggining.
Your video is the exact opposite, despite the fact you made a ton of mistakes in the early game, you still got a 4k.
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"I escape 90% of my games as survivor in 7 minutes or less and I find those games to be [BAD WORD]. Am I complaining that I won, too?"
I'd love to see you live stream for a few hours because it would be wonderful to see what a pro survivor does to escape a whopping 90% of their games. You just may be the best survivor playing the game right now.
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I think that's kinda Oni's main win condition? He's pretty ass at the start of the game, but as things get going he becomes a monster.
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LMAO imagine
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Yes, you are complaining that you won. You literally just did that by saying the games were #########.
You can't balance around 'fun', because that is subjective by its' very nature. Plenty of people fine iri head hatched huntress with Ebony Mori to be 'fun', and while it is typically not 'fun' for the people that play against it, its' also not 'fair'. Therefore, it should be changed.
If you want to complain that games go too quickly, then you need to nerf killer capabilities as well as gen times. If gens can pop too quickly, then killers can definitely down too quickly. Heals should be faster, hook timers longer, and anything that insta-downs should be removed.
Until a killer is incapable of downing all four survivors in less than a minute, I think the 80-second gen times are fine if not too long against tryhards that stack every advantage they can and play as cheaply a possible.
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Yes, it is. Why? Because you choose to go with perks more suited to camping than pressure. Also, you took almost 30 seconds to get Steve engaged in a chase. You walked by him twice, missed the sound of him running to your left twice, and kept mind gaming yourself into bad decisions. These are things you should be looking at in order to improve on. Change the situation up. You engage him right away, you have one of any pressure perks, DI, Thana, etc, you down him around 40 seconds sooner (25 for the dancing around and not engaging the chase itself + 15 seconds for the second-guessing mind games you did that gave Steve more separation time). You now have almost 50 seconds before that first gen pops. You get over to one of them in 30, chase them off the gen (if you have ruin, that regresses auto). You hear the other gen near done, you peel off and chase him off. You lose 1, maybe 2 gens and get a second down before the next gen is done.
This is how many matches go. If you toy around too much in the beginning, you get hammered. Having some pressure perks and learning from your mistakes helps a lot. I main Trapper, it takes a good minute to get a field of play trapped so you can control it in the late game. I lose 1-3 gens pretty quick, but easily control the rest of match 90% of the time. I use perks that favor that style of play though.
TLDR: Go back and look at your mistakes in the video. Learn from them and you will not have so much of a problem in the future.
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If he won the game, then clearly the issue is not the gen speed, as countless people have already suggested. The reason people dont want to hear this ccomplaint is that regardless of what OP's issue is with the actual match in question, it sounds like he just wants to win MORE.
If you arent enjoying yourself, you can always take a break from Dead By Daylight. If you feel that the speed at which they repair generators isnt fair, then there is room for discussion on that topic, sure, but disguising a "Win More" complaint as a topic of discussion is really slimy, and its probably why so many people take issue with this post.
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I want matcha to last longer not to win more my problem isn’t the 4K it’s the time gens were completed in if the match lasted 10 minutes and I got zero kills I’d be fine with that it’s when gens can be done in 4:00 and you feel completely helpless that I have a problem with that
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So again, fair for you to be able to win in seconds, not for them. Do you not see the problem here? No, of course you don't. You want to play with your food before you inevitably 4k.
So... I have a question for you. What do you think is the appeal of playing survivor? Do you think we enjoy just fleeing all game? Being smacked and stabbed and hooked and mori'd? Do you think the appeal is to just sit on a generator holding a mouse button?
For some toxic elements of the community, it's to try and give better than they get. To stun and taunt and blind the killer. Those people are human garbage and I'd love to see their playstyle eradicated from the game forever.
For me, it's the thrill of escaping the killer. To evade and sneak around them. I'm only in a rush to do gens because the people I get paired with drop like flies. If I do anything but work on gens, I will inevitably die to EGC unless I get lucky and the gates are far apart and the killer doesn't have some way to warn them I'm at a gate.. (like demo, trapper, whispers, etc).
Killer is always the easier role to play, because it's all on you and your skill. If the survivors have even one potato, you can punish them horribly. Sadly, most of them are. Most people are bad at games in general.
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It's sad that making one mistake as killer can cost you a whole gen. And at this point 3.
But a survivor can make 60 and still get out Scott free
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Yeah that is pretty ridiculous regardless of what the others are saying. Expecting one gen to go in the first like 30-60 seconds is fine, but having 3 go off in like 90 seconds is an example of how tool boxes are just too strong in their current condition.
Thankfully they are getting changed eventually.
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If you want to be chased, put on object and go get the killer's attention. The gen rush is entirely in your hands to avoid. Don't bang out gens and then complain it's over already. It's your fault!
I typically have to do at least 2-3 gens by myself when I play survivor, so I never see these insane gen rushes you talk about. Especially since they only 'chases' are typically mine. I'll hear teammates go down one by one less than a minute apart. I don't know how you magically get exclusively good survivors but I sure as hell don't.
Gens get done maybe one in four games. If that. Considering the devs want a 2 kill, 2 escape ratio, they should be getting done in nearly every game with the 4 escape trounces being balanced out with the number of 4 kill slaughters.
If you want longer games, gen times are not the only things that need to be looked at. Instadowns, moris, slowdown perks, and even tracking perks all need to be looked at so that survivors that aren't 3k+ hour players have a chance to not go down in two seconds or we will see >80% kill rates.
Don't forget that killers already kill more than they don't. If you added games with a DC in the mix that number skyrockets.
Just because you personally only ever get elite death squad survivors doesn't mean the rest of us do. If you're bored, go play something more challenging. I don't like having to look for hatch every game as it is, and if you make it any more difficult, the average survivor will have a 100% death rate as opposed to only 60%.
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So gens pop fast and it’s still not enough to win, let alone the fact you had NOED as back up.
If gens took longer....whats to stop killers from slugging/noed regardless?
People talk about survivor entitlement but killers win and still aren’t happy. Those are the really entitled players.
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Yes.
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“I won with 1 gen to go!!! Damn survivors OP!!! I demand gens take longer so that I can 4k with 3 gens remaining!!!!”
But it’s the survivors who are entitled 🙄
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Then your problem is matchmaking, not gen times. Sorry you face trash killers with not trash survivors.
I will have a similar situation. I'll see at the end it was 4 red ranked survivors vs a green killer. Difference is, that green just slaughtered the other three survivors like the braindead potatoes they are. I don't get good survivors on my team 9 times out of 10. They play just as badly or worse than the green ranked killer. Half the time, I die with them because EGC essentially hands the kill to the killer.
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I have the same experience green rank killers DOMINATING red rank survivors. This is due to new rank reset making everyone red rank though. It wasnt like this before they changed rank reset.
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I was red ranked before the change, definitely needs to be looked at. I'm looking forward to the MMR system they're planning to implement. Hopefully it will bring about more fair games for everyone.
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They only had 2 toolbox’s tho one yellow and one brown no addons the other didn’t
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Even as a "killer main" (Like 55/45) I can agree.
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3 gens in 1:45 is pretty slow tbh lmao
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Just pressure all 4 survivors at once 4head
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"Guys I got a 4k even when survivors are using infinites,
Clearly there's nothing wrong with infinites in this game..."
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Ok I disagree lol unless your baiting me 🤔
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They both have the same repair speed and it's all you need to cut gen time almost in half. 2 toolboxes is equal to an entire other person on their team repairing gens until they both run out of charges.
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He slugged incorrectly in the first part, not exactly what I would call applying a hella of a lot of map pressure.
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