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Unsportsmanlike Player
Me and my friend was playing as survivor mode, the killer killed my friend, hooked him and LITERALY STAYED in front of him with THE chaimsaw until he Dies.
And after with the two guys in the team, and with me as the same.
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That my friend, is a camper and its technically, sportsmanlike and fair.
Sorry to hear that man. Its super annoying to deal with
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First week and they’re faced with a bubba facecamper
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I know man, but, I want some punishment for this folks. Because, every day, I found this guys around the game
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I have a video, if you guys want to see.
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They get punished, severely less BP and a guaranteed de-pip, outside of that there really isn't much to be done.
True me bud everyone has seen a camping Bubba, it's not a shock to anyone.
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Ok, but we lost pip too, and its not fair. We cant do nothing in the match because of them.
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Like when somebody kiked of the match and can't play for a few minutes.
For camper killer could be the same.
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It's one the greatest, most unfair aspects of this game.
Being camped and tunneled. We all go through it, and I'm sorry you had to go through that.
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It's technically neither of those things, but it is acceptable and reasonable within the laws of the game.
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There's only 2 types of Bubba, the one that camps and the one that spams that OP chainsaw move that clears the round in minutes.
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Which is something that I never really understood. They added unhooks from the side exactly to avoid making unhooking impossible. Then this, which is a totally comparable situation, stays in the game forever. For all their talk about consistency, I have to say they did a pretty good job so far.
Well, BHVR wanted to make the game less frustrating for new players...
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Although it can be frustrating, camping is not a bannable offense and is perfectly allowable by the game rules. You can find the game rules here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system
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Not gonna happen, lol.
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No. It may be allowed, but it is NOT sportsmanlike nor is it fair for the person it's happening to.
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Then is pallet looping "sportsmanlike"?
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The op was talking about face camping. Where they hook their first survivor and just watch them die on the hook. Which is normally a losing tactic. Since it just gives time for the other survivors to just get gens done. Leading to 3 people escaping if not four. Like in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWLf0ezuvNg Well unless everyone tries to make the hook save and die.
Since while the killer is doing this, they are not getting into chases, getting hits or using their special ability. Denying them blood points. So yes it no fun for the person being face camped. Since they can't do anything at all for what might be most of the game. Yet as long as the team mates are doing gens. The killer is only really harming themselves and one other person. It could be the killer is new or they want to face camp someone for reasons. Yet if they are face camping like in the video i link, all they are really doing is throwing the game and handing it to the survivors. In terms of letting them get away and pull off a successful escape for the majority of their team.
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Maybe if people would stop hookbombing the hooked survivor, turning a 1k into a 3 or sometimes 4k, killers would stop camping. But often enough I see people just hook dive to get an easy 1000 points.
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This is such a long explanation for nothing. What you're describing doesn't negate my point at all. It is still unsportsmanlike game play and unfair for the person being face camped to death. Period. I won't even get into all the flaws in the whole "zomg, if the killer lyke face campz, yall can do all the genZzZzZz!!". :|
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So you have the knowledge i seem to lack to make counter points but won't. This is as lazy as someone on twitter going, do your own research.
Since how is anyone meant to agree with your point of view or have it change, if you are not even willing to state a single counter point?
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Simply move on. If your buddy gets camped to death, then do gens and get out.
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It's not lazy, I'm just not engaging you in the conversation you want to have because it's unnecessary. My comment was a very simple statement. It is unsportsmanlike, and unfair to the person it's being done to, to face camp. There's really no debate in that. It just is what it is.
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Got one like that yesterday. I play solo.
The counter: we did all gens while he facecamped two. Your play as survivor when this happens: stay in the hook, do not suicide, so the team will have time to work on gens and escape. If not the hooked one, after realizing its a facecamp specially with Bubba, drop the save and go do gens.
And try hard to never be the first hook in a match.
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Yet that was not the point you were trying to make in your last reply. You said you had points against the other survivors will win the game if they do gens, while a killer is face camping someone. That was the point you were trying to debate from my original post. The one thing you pointed out that you had a disagreement with.
See you said it right here. Talking about the idea others can do the gens and escape, is flawed but never stated how it flaw.
That and if you took the time to read my original post. You would see i would agree with you, that it not fun for the person getting camped.
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Campers are one of two things:
1) Lousy killers
2) Got boned cuz they were outplayed by a survivor and figures taking them out of the game is some form of revenge. Personally, I find it hilarious because it means I did well.
But to reiterate what everyone else has said: When a chainsaw killer is camping the hook...just go do gens. It's not worth it. I've seen so many games bomb due to overly altruistic survivors. Yeah, 3 people in a game suck. But 3 people can definitely complete 2 gens (Which is what should be left, ideally before the person dies) and with the lack of multiple survivors being hooked there should be plenty of pallets leftover for the last two gens to be completed.
With all that said though, there definitely needs to be some sorta built-in game counter to the chainsaw killers that camp. I proposed a baseball bat that could be found on the map in pre-determined locations like hex totems that can be used as a 1-time use item that stuns the killer for 5 seconds allowing for a hook save.
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I wouldn't call it sportsmanship like.
You know "fair and generous behavior in a competion".
However it is within the roles and I'll defend their right to play how they want. The OP should have got at least two out by pounding gennys on the camper.
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No, you missed my point, which - again - was that face camping is unsportsmanlike and unfair for the person its happening to. That was my ONLY point. My original point and the point I have reiterated SEVERAL TIMES now, but you don't seem to grasp.
My second post literally said, "I WON'T EVEN GET INTO ALL THE FLAWS....". What part of that statement meant do you think meant, "Please, ignore my point and focus on this exactly thing I clearly disagree with but don't want to debate in a thread that's not intended for that topic - one I have already discussed till I was blue in the face."
Again, just because I don't want to engage you in the conversation you -want- to have, does not negate my original (and actual) point at all. I'm glad we agree.
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You do know, most people won't don't want to talk about something. Don't bring it up. Why did you take your time to point it and bring it up. If you didn't want to talk about it. Why did you waste your time bringing it up, if you didn't want to talk about it? Wow this is just like a person on twitter. Lolz go teach yourself, might as well been your reply. Since you disagree with point i made but are to lazy to counter it. Sir you are the one who started my point was flawed, you are the one who started that conversation and brought it up as a point, not i. Congrats sir on wasting your own time.
I never once said it was sportsmanlike to face camp a player. So you just like to hear your own voice and choose to disagree with me for no real reason then. Since you are to lazy to make a single point against the thing you disagree with.
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Apparently you've never heard the expression "agree to disagree". I can disagree with your opinion of how that match scenario would play out without haven't to educate you on why. I don't know why you think I need to spoon feed you the details of my opposition to that part of your commentary, when that part of the commentary was secondary to this post's topic in the first place. Trust me, this whole forum is a waste of time (yours and mine)...so that's not the insult you think it is. I never claimed you said it was unsportsmanlike...in fact, my original comment was not even directed at you. Your obsession with conversing with me about something off-topic to this thread is weird. Again, I am not lazy, although I appreciate your cheap attempts to insult me in that way, I just choose to stay relatively on topic and don't have any obligation to educate you.
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You quote me sir. If you were not speaking to me. There would be no point in quoting me. Sir if you think these forums are a waste of time, why are you on them? Sir you said my point was flawed to make my point look bad. That is not agree to disagree, that is saying my point is weak or flawed somehow. Questioning the logic of my point, is far from different from saying i merely disagree with this statement.
You don't have any obilgation to educate me? You do know you just became the twitter feminist i spoke of. That what twitter feminist do, they bring up a point they disagree with. They have no counter points and so refuse to state them, for they know they have nothing to counter with. So they state something akin to go educate yourself. I am not the only one in this thread who brought up the idea, in the time it takes for the person on hook to die. The survivors can get the gens done and escape. So clearly others agree with my point of view. Yet your refusal to state any counter point only makes you look bad. For it shows you have no point, no argument. That and how i am meant to learn something that you clearly know the counter point to, yet refuse to share. Hmm, if you had a good counter point. You could of shared it and get people on your side or at least see a different point of view and yet refuse to share it. Hmm, i wonder why. Oh right you have no point, you have no counter to it. Otherwise you would of said it by now and stop acting like you are better than other people. Sure i do not need to be educated. In a debate sir, it is your job to make a case for your statement. I am not here to make your point for you sir. That is your job, to point out why the logic of survivors can do gens and get away if the killer is face camping one of them is flawed.
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Agree to disagree is different from saying my logic is flawed. That and you quoted me more than once now. You are replying to my words sir. That what quoting is about and used for. That and if the forums are a waste of time, if you truly believe that. Why are you here and not making better use of your time else where?
Your statement of "don't have any obligation to educate you", just proves you are 100% a twitter feminist in mind set. That what they do. They bring up a point they disagree with, laugh and mock at it or say it flawed somehow. Yet when challenge or ask to state their point of view or merely ask how is this point of view flawed? They refuse to give an answer. Than give a reply like your own, go educate yourself or they don't have any obligation to educate others. That and if you have been reading this thread, others have brought up the idea of if someone is being faced camped, the other survivors can just do gens and escape. Showing others agree or think like myself. You say this is flawed but never why. Hmm why would someone who has this knowledge as to why this point of view is flawed would keep it to themselves. Hmm, maybe it due to you having no point, no argument to make. Which is all it seems like by keeping it to yourself, making only you look bad as if you have no true point. Saying this logic is flawed, is so vague of a statement, it relays on others having to read your mind or make up their own meaning for why this logic is flawed, that survivors can do gens and escaped if a killer is just staring at someone they hook until death. Sir in a debate, it not my job to make your point for you. That is your job, to point out why the logic of "Survivors doing gens and can escaped the killer, if someone is being facecamped" is flawed. For by refusing to make any statement, not only do you deny any chance of people agreeing with you, but also deny any possible chance of people changing their minds and only makes you look bad, by making it seem like you have no argument. If the point of view was so flawed. Surely it would be simple and easy to point to at least one or two statements of where survivors doing gens to escape a face camping killer is bad logic or flawed in some way.
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Devs will keep a blind eye to these issues (Camping, tunneling, slugging).
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You just showed the killer camping pays off
It's groups like your friends that fuel camping killers
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Okay listen, this might be a shocker for you now, but i have to tell you, its nothing completly unusual. Its annoying and frustrating, but there are some guys out, who are just facecamping. Unfortunatly there is really absolutly nothing you can do unless you have a very experienced player that is far better then the killer and can outsmart him, and even that is a risk.
It cant be reported since it is a strategy, even tho it is highly uneffective and super annoying for the guy who is camped, but nevertheless, it is a strategy some killers use.
If this happens, tell your buddy he should do generators as fast as possible. Struggle until the end to buy your teammates as much time as possible. In 2 minutes, 3 people can do at least 3 generators.
And last but not least - dont care about the pips. From what i read you are probably a newer player, so let me tell you: At first loosing pips is something that bothers you, but believe me when i tell you, that this will change over time. You will care more and more about having interesting and fun rounds then actually piping. Pip does not matter that much, you will get a decent rank anytime soon anyway.
Good luck and especially have fun
Kind regards
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I had it as survivor and have also employed this when I used to play killer, until BHVR make it fun for killers there will be killers who make it unfun for survivors... part of the way BHVR seem to want it.
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I just read a huge paragraph of someone putting someone else in their place and wasted about two minutes reading it.
I don't regret one bit of it 😂
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