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Going back to the hook

You just hooked somebody, you go look for that claudette you just saw on you BBQ&Chilli but you can't find her. Then the person gets unhooked. Why wouldn't you go back to the hook? Half of the survivors on the match are there.

You just hooked somebody, you go 20 m away and he/she gets unhooked. Why wouldn't you go back to the hook? It's the closest target and again half of the survivors are there.

You went back to the hook and the only person you find is the unhooked guy. Why wouldn't you tunnel him/her? Is it your problem if the other survivor decided to stealth? Should you pretend you didn't see the unhooked guy?

If you can give me reasonable answers, I appreciate it.

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  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    No you shouldn’t pretend you didn’t see the unhooked guy. But I think it should punish you more for going after him via better survivor self defense perks. DS only lasts 5 seconds and I don’t think killers are intimidated by that. Typically they’ll just get right back on your tail 😡 it’s rather frustrating. There has to be better installments for survivors to defend themselves. It’s unfair to be that guy that doesn’t get any points because you can’t get away from the killer because of high mobility killers. That’s not the survivors fault, that’s the game not allowing survivors to have their seconds chance that everyone thinks survivors get a lot of when in fact, They don’t a lot of the time!

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    Survivors get cheated out of their chances a lot of the time playing this game. Killers come in with ebony Mori’s, iridescent heads combined with infantry belts giving them 3 one hit down ranged attacks per locker reload, a plethora of ways to get exposed on you, one hit downs, the ability to spin whilst doing their lunge attacks which shouldn’t be a thing considering the fact that by definition lunge attacks are a forward thrust in one direction. If a survivor jukes you, you shouldn’t be allowed to move around/change direction while you’re holding down that basic attack button - that’s just my opinion.

  • animalmak
    animalmak Member Posts: 399

    Unless I'm in a chase with a survivor (or interacting with them in any way), I'll go back to the hook. Like you said - it's the most logical place to go, at least 2/4 survivors are there.

    If I go back to the hook and the only person I find is the recently-unhooked, I usually down them so I don't totally lose them and then try to find whoever stealthed after unhooking. Honestly it's just because I feel bad because I hate when that happens to me, especially if I ask for some heals and the person just runs off. Like... thanks. But if I can't find the other person, I'll go back to the downed unhooked person and hope I don't get stabbed while trying to rehook them. And I audibly apologize to my TV lmao.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Do people really not expect the killer to come straight back to the hook when someone gets rescued? Is that a thing now? I always assume that the killer will come straight back the moment I unhook someone unless they're already in a chase, the same way I assume a killer will beeline towards an exploded generator if they're not busy elsewhere, because that's where the survivors are. It's simply logical.

    As for the tunnelling thing, that's up to you. Sometimes I will pretend I didn't see the unhooked guy out of mercy, but you definitely shouldn't feel obliged to do that, and no one else should give you crap for not doing it.

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,883

    Don't ######### about DS then

  • BlindMole
    BlindMole Member Posts: 649

    If they unhooked that person when you were only 20 m away that probably means they could still hear your terror radius, so that means they did it far too early and you should capitalise on that mistake. I hate when survivors rush for the save and come to these forums yelling "omg camper! Tunneler"

    Personnaly it depends on the match.... If it was early, 5 gens up, not high rank, I'll try to go for the one who unhooked (sometimes i even do it when i shouldn't and it ends up costing me a match but meh), but don't ever be afraid to punish these unsafe hooks. Slugging is a really good option

    This is why people cry about new doc, because even before you hooked the person you downed they are already running for the save! So once you hook, you use static blast and you're bound to find someone really close, applying lots of pressure.

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946
    edited April 2020

    you can do whatever you want, you can choose not to help the old lady across the street, you can choose to throw that finished can of cola on the streets rather then keeping it with you and throwing it in a garbage bin later.

    People in general will judge you for your actions but its your choice so do what you feel is the right thing to do.

  • aregularplayer
    aregularplayer Member Posts: 906

    they do. as you can notice on post game chat or forums. including this thread.

  • aregularplayer
    aregularplayer Member Posts: 906

    1st of all, people's judgement isn't what you are. 2nd, throwing garbage on the streets makes you an shole, playing the game as it is intended to be played, don't. survivors complain too much about situations they/their teamates put themselves on. and I'm talking from a main solo survivor pov.

  • KingFrost
    KingFrost Member Posts: 3,014

    I almost never go back to the hook. I'm usually already in another chase (either through BBQ or running into a survivor on their way for a save) when someone gets hooked. I have no time to waste turning around to go back for a guy that's probably going to heal the other guy after unhooking them. Can't leave the other players totally unpressured.

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946
    edited April 2020

    Well there you go, you are making excuses for the behavior already.

    Throwing garbage on the street does not make you an "shole", its your opinion on that behavior and probably the general opinion but still just an opinion, a view of someone else on that person and it does and does not define them, depends on how you look at it.

    Kinda coming back to your first claim "people's judgement isn't what you are" sooo yeah, they are not an "shole", you just have that opinion of them.

    Same goes for your behavior in a game, you can do whatever you like, people will judge you based on that but if that has no influence on you then well fine, go forward with what you want to do.

  • Kwikwitted
    Kwikwitted Member Posts: 647

    You're conflating subjective judgement with objective law, and they are two very different things.

    Almost every state and municipality has a litter law, meaning it's actually illegal to throw garbage on the street. It's not an opinion on that behavior, it's been codified by legislative bodies that this type of behavior is unacceptable.

    By that same logic, the developers have said that camping and tunneling is in fact not bannable behavior, nor is it an exploit, though it is frowned upon. This is not a codified law by any legislative body, and even the private proprietors of the game do not ban the practice. "Frowned upon" is a judgement by other people but is subjective. One man's camp is another man's strategic reaction to survivors being too altruistic.

    Your analogy and logic are flawed.

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    not really, they were discribing someone as an "shole" which is entirely an opinion. Something being against the law is fact, nothing to do with opinion.

    But fine lets leave the littering out and lets stick to the old lady across the street analogy or hell forget even that, it does not matter, the point should be more then clear by now.

  • Kwikwitted
    Kwikwitted Member Posts: 647

    And clearly you missed my point, the developers have said that type of behavior is not bannable, or an exploit, so doing it does not betray the rules of the game. You can make a subjective claim it's not in the "spirit" of the game and you would have an argument, but I could argue that bringing a 4 man SWF is not in the "spirit" of the game either and survivors would just claim I need to "pressure gens more bro". The point is caring what other players who are your adversaries in a game think is just not that important.

    Subjectivity of killer and survivor actions goes both ways. It's also often entirely situational. Will I return to the hook? If I'm close enough and not in a chase? Yes because that was a failure on the survivors parts for being too altruistic and part of being a smart killer is punishing mistakes. Do I go for the unhooked player to tunnel? Usually not but I'm not above slugging them if it's convenient, and forcing someone else to come pick them up.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    It really depends on what is happening in the game. If there are 5 gennys left and I know one is being worked where I went to. I'm going to try and do a quick search, maybe a pop kick.

    If I head back and see wounded survivor I will down them. I don't like to tunnel, but after being farmed sooo many times by rando survivors. I will no longer allow a bad saver to be rewarded with a safe hook rescue. So wounded guy gets slugged or I'll just pick you up and eat ds. It's the other guy I want now!

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    I guess I missed your point because its not relevant to the discussion at all?

    Nobody is talking about thinks being allowed or in the rules of the game, I was merely and purely talking about how people perceive you.

    As OP asked

    "Why wouldn't you tunnel him/her? Is it your problem if the other survivor decided to stealth? Should you pretend you didn't see the unhooked guy?

    If you can give me reasonable answers, I appreciate it."

    Well because it will be viewed by many as cheap and unfun and they will judge you for it but you can do whatever you want, same as you having the ability to not help the old granny across the street, there is no law against it and hey it means you dont have to spend/waste time/energy doing that but again people will judge you for it.

    But as you said yourself: caring what other players who are your adversaries in a game think is just not that important.

    Well that is fine, that is your opinion, but I was answering OP who was asking for opinions views, yours is different from mine, that is fine, but dont try to debate it as you cant be right or wrong in this.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    Yeah I gotta agree here. If I get farmed in front of the killet with no BT, I'm not mad at what decision the killer makes. I'm mad at the bad gameplay my teammates made.

    Had a NEA do this to me twice in a row. No Bt, didn't take the hit. Killer just tunnels me out of the game. Then she using point emoji at the killer. I'm like you set him up with the ally oop , he just slammed it home.

    Worst part, if she let me hang a second, I had adrenaline and would have had a chance when last genny popped.