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A survivor just showed me where the other survivor was and the survivor reported me for teaming?

BenZ0
BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
edited April 2020 in General Discussions

Little story what happened, I played plague for my daily. I had a feng with a key and she was hiding and immersing the entire game, just saw her leggit 1 time. She was never unhooking or touching barely any gens. I felt bad cuz I hate those ppl and I can imagine that this is very frustrating for the other 3 that were playing a regular game with me, I played very fair though and the game went for 23min. So it wasnt a fast stomp where I slugged everyone or anything else. Anyway 2 ppl were dead and I tried to find the other 2. I tried to find feng and after 10min ("22min ingame) the yui wanted the attention and was pointing at the feng hiding in a locker. I killed the feng straight up and thought for a second, okey well the yui was funny (She naughted at me and was a good looper actually) so I gave her the hatch for beeing funny and actually good in chase.

Endgame chat:

Feng: "I was recording this and I am gonna report you for teaming"

"I have to survive so I am allowed to do that" thats what she also said after I said that she was hiding the entire game and not helping her team at all.

My question now: The random survivor (yui) came to me and showed me where the feng was, I didnt know about this. So this cant be teaming right? I mean I gave the yui the hatch and that could look like it but actually the feng deserved to die and the yui played well, I dont see a reason to denie a good survivor the hatch personally.

*Edit: Its worth mentioning that I wanted my last BBQ stack from the feng since it was bloodpoints event at this time.

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Comments

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420

    Nothing at all will happen.. Nothing. Don't worry. They won't even ban cheaters unless they are recorded and ADMIT to cheating.. you think they're going to act on a 'teaming' report? No..

  • Groxiverde
    Groxiverde Member Posts: 767

    I did a post some months ago talking about this situation and 90% of the replies told me that the killer should be banned.

    I still don't think the killer should be banned for that.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    Well I know someone who cheated a few years ago and got banned months ago^^ There were no records of that nothing.

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    It was teaming no matter the reason. Nothing will probably happen but you cheated.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    I think these were just ppl that didnt understand the situation. Imo there is a huge difference between teaming without even knowing in my case or teaming for a while on purpose.

  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    It's not him who cheated but rather the Yui. You can't simply ignore a survivor pointing in a locker.

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    He let the Yui escape while killing who she pointed out. It is cheating.

  • Crazewtboy
    Crazewtboy Member Posts: 1,259

    While you technically did team, I think you'll be fine. If they do anything to you, they would have to do something to her too for refusing to participate in normal gameplay

  • LetsPlayTogether
    LetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    But you purposely killed the Feng after her being shown to you. So you teamed up with the survivor. Thats exactly what you choose to do.

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,542

    Had this same thing kinda happen on ps4 but the survivor was messaging me where the person was hiding. I didnt wanna listen but it was the last survivor and i didnt ask to be messaged.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    she was hiding and immersing the entire game, just saw her leggit 1 time. She was never unhooking or touching barely any gens.

    How do you know? I had many times people making similar accusation which were totally false. If a survivor is stealthy it doesn't mean he isn't doing anything, most probably it means you just don't see them doing them.

  • Fog_King
    Fog_King Member Posts: 688

    As I was reading the title, I was thinking maybe they could have reason to think it was teamming, but after reading the post, no, that is not teamming at all. If the game went on for all that time, the killer knows who is doing this or that or in Feng's case, who was not doing anything. People like these just drag out a match. Sometimes it's better to just die, find another match and try again. But don't worry, nothing will happen. Feng was only mad because you let the other live and she thought she deserved to survive.

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    Could have killed the Yui and ended game just as easily and not have teamed!

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    Thats actually true but I often give good loopers the hatch as a reward for playing well. Its something that is very common from me.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
    edited April 2020
  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
    edited April 2020

    You have a point. But I was playing plague, the feng was not infected for the entire game except when I found her at the start. If you know plague then you will know what happen if you touch a infected gen or a broken survivor^^. With that clue its obvious that she didnt do anything productive. I saw her once, infected her and then she immidiatly cleansed. She kinda killed the team with that cuz of that second pool I could create alot of pressure.

  • Oicimau
    Oicimau Member Posts: 897

    No, not teaming. Survivors can denounce each other thru in-game gestures, no rule against that. The teaming must be a more deep thing and behaviour of constant coop during the match.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    Alright and what about the feng? I mean what she did was refusing to participate in a regular game, she wasnt trying to do gens. In that case she did something not right aswell?

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    And reward bad play?

    The Feng didn't contribute, she doesn't deserve an escape bonus. Yui proved to be a competent survivor and actually made BenZo work for it.


    If the Feng actually did a generator or two, then they both might have escaped naturally.

  • LegionMain343
    LegionMain343 Member Posts: 198

    How? Because from what I've read, there was no sense of exploits or cheating software.

  • BigTimeGamer
    BigTimeGamer Member Posts: 1,752

    someone hid in a locker instead of doing a gen

    i gave her up and ran off, if you gunna waste my time, ill waste yours

  • just_a_noob
    just_a_noob Member Posts: 247

    in my opinion it technically is teaming. the yui ratted the feng out but you chose to go along with it, kill the feng and let the yui go.

    personally i can't stand survivors that rat other survivors out. if in fact the feng did play the way you said she did then she probably did deserve to die but at the same time there's no way i would have let the yui go after doing what she did.

    you don't know that the feng didn't do anything during the game. i've been in a situation where i've thrown accusations at someone for something then i went to watch their video that they put up and realised that they didn't actually do what i accused them of. i apologised to them but my point is things can look very different through someone else's eyes.

  • Ryuhi
    Ryuhi Member Posts: 3,831

    tbh a survivor who refuses to do gens, make saves, or get chased is a worse case of teaming with the killer. You're actively assisting the killer by being a useless survivor.

  • LetsPlayTogether
    LetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    You do not have to like it but i doubt that you can report her for thinking that hiding in a 2vs1 is the best way to escape.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited April 2020

    No survivor touches infected stuff unless it's strictly necessary, and sometimes unhooking infected survivors isn't contagious, so that is hardly proof. In my experience it's easy to accuse someone of not being helpful but most of the times those accusations are false.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
    edited April 2020

    If a survivor is broken you will ALWAYS be infected after the unhook, that is how the infection works. If you dont believe me then go in a kyf and try it with friends.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    It could be a bug, but I had occasions where unhooking an infected survivor didn't infect me.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    There is a difference between infected or broken. Infected "Where you have the timer until you get broken" is not contagious, you will not infect anyone. If you are broken "Fully infected" then you infect everyone who touches you. So if a normal infected survivor who is not broken yet gets unhooked, the saviour will not be infected. Only if the hooked survivor is broken then the saviour will be infected.

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976


    Well, the feng was sandbagging(aka being afk, refusing to play the game). Teaming requires a tiny bit more than just 1 sellout. Those 3 survivors have been playing a 3v1 all game and simply didnt think that feng deserved to leave without being at least hooked once. They were done and decided to show where Feng was, just to get her to participate.

    As far as the devs are concerned, teaming requires the killer and survivor actually teaming up to kill other survivors. The Yui didnt team up with the killer, she just pointed out where Feng was all game and then kept on going against the killer. That's not a team up. I mean, do you consider leading the killer to a 3 man gen to prevent a hookstage teaming? Its a sellout 100%. But teaming?

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    They chose to work together (as a team) against the other survivor. Then the Yui (the killers new mate) was allowed to go free...

  • RobMeister88
    RobMeister88 Member Posts: 351

    Don't listen to the people trying to label you as the bad guy, they're probably doing so because they themselves are immersed players. You did the right thing, as did Yui. The Feng was not participating in normal gameplay, meaning she wasn't doing gens, running the killer around, etc. If you were to be punished, then she would have to be as well, since she instigated everything. I can't fathom how some people consider immersed actions as fair gameplay, it's the most toxic form of sandbagging alongside body-blocking teammates in corners or body-blocking pallets.

  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    The most toxic is teaming with the killer.

  • RobMeister88
    RobMeister88 Member Posts: 351

    There was no teaming in OP's case. Feng deserved to be ratted out, she was a useless teammate who was displaying unsportsmanlike conduct.

  • MrMisanthropy66
    MrMisanthropy66 Member Posts: 167

    Yea no. The survivor cheated no killer isn't going to check a locker after that duh

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I'm starting to wonder if all the people in this thread who think being stealthy and prioritising your own survival should be punished under "refusing to participate in normal gameplay" would say the same about something like facecamping. Dick move? Sure. Rule-breaking? Not at all.

    Yui definitely did the wrong thing there. Feng was right to report her. Intentionally selling out another survivor to the killer is always breaking the rules, no matter what the other survivor did or didn't do. You going along with it, and rewarding her for it (or appearing to) is... iffy. On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of all the information you have at your disposal, nor with giving a survivor the hatch if you think they deserved it for playing well. It's the context that makes those actions dubious in this case. Rewarding a rule-breaker, even if you're not rewarding them for breaking the rules, is morally questionable at best. If I were on the Support team receiving that report, I probably wouldn't ban you over it, but it would be a tough call and honestly I'm glad I'm not the one who actually has to make it.

  • xenofon13
    xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241
    edited April 2020

    Let me tell you something. I played with 2 speed/legacy skin hackers and both of them had multiple vac bans on steam. It's been a week since my report with video proofs, screenshots, in game reports, _BHVR in their names (obviously trolling the devs). They don't even checked my tickets yet.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    I personally dont think that I could be banned for that but I can totally understand if that seems biased to the yui what I did. Even thought I didnt had the intention. But I personally would love if the game rules would be defined way more precise. Its not the first time where I am wondering what is actually rule breaking and what not, there are many "gabs" in the rules where you dont even know if that is okey or not. Anyway thank you for your reply!

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    Nothing will happen to you unless you get reported more than once.

    There was a guy on the forums who was appealing his ban because he would equip Franklin's, use it...then DC.

    He would then be toxic in the after game chat, letting them know that their item is now gone, he was mass reported.

    If you got reported once, you're fine, especially for something as vague as "Teaming."

    Any new killer does this some times and they don't even know it.