Scratch marks from unhooking are stupid (-_-)
Seriously.
Why should the person being unhooked leave scratch marks when they are already:
- in an injured state.
- lost one chance to live
- going to get tunneled anyway
It should be the person who unhooks that should leave the scratch mark and it also shouldn't be a stupid perk to do so anyway.
This will prevent tunneling from happening which will be a great thing for the health of the game.
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1) there are perks that makes you to don't leave scratch marks
2) if someone is going to get tunneled, then scratch marks are useless since killer will camp the area anyway
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as you said, there is a perk for this so use that...
Apart from it, ok, lets say you are a killer hellbent on tunneling and this suggested change will come through.
How exactly will that stop anything? if the killer is far enough away that you can get away to some safe place to heal...then that pretty much could have been done while leaving scratch marks as well.
(heck there is another perk for that, Lightweight)
If the killer really wants to tunnel, they stay close enough that as soon as the survivor is unhooked, they will be back there, and not leaving scratch marks wont help against that.
Again I dont want to be all negative or whatever, all im trying to say as that you seem to think this will improve the game somehow, but it wont.
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1) Well, like I stated: "...it also shouldn't be a stupid perk to do so anyway."
2) Tunneling is to solely focus on one specific survivor and scratch marks after hooks condones that very action so what's the point in keeping that stupid mechanic?
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Anyone that is running is going to leave scratch marks. An unhooked survivor is not the only one.
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Scratch marks are an essential part of the game to separate stealth and speed.
You did not go against anything we stated so far, if we make this, lets say after unhook you dont leave scratch marks for 20 seconds by default, that wont help against killers who actually tunnel, they will be back as soon as you are unhooked and you can run around without leaving scratchmarks all you want, if they can see you its rather pointless.
If a killer wants to tunnel, that is basically a non match, I Just wish survivors would just recognise this behavior sooner and just run up and die on the hook and not reward this match and further by even trying, its a cheap bs tactic so leave and hope the next match will be an actual match.
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Don't want to leave scratch marks don't run. Not that difficult.
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Wow, all these "want no scratch marks? don't run!" suggestions...
That's so rudimentary and unlettered I can't fathom how to respond to such logic.
The only reason why I bring this up is because killers take the upper hand by (9 times out of 10) chasing the once hooked person again instead of something else, and scratch marks are babying them to get another secured kill.
What's the point in getting rescued if the enemy gets full awareness of your whereabouts within seconds of being rescued?
And to the analogy above, you are basically saying "they'll do it anyway whether you like it or not so don't do something about and just pray for a better game."
Lol. I mean, yes. I could turn the other cheek and spit on the ground to a crappy match.
But that doesn't make the next game have any higher chances of being better than the previous one and in most cases, it's not.
Exploitation in DBD is at all time high and praying for a better game next match is not the most practical solution. I hope you get that.
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Alright calm down there, like I said in my first post:
"Again I dont want to be all negative or whatever, all im trying to say as that you seem to think this will improve the game somehow, but it wont."
Your imply that the difference between a killer tunneling or not, relies on scratchmarks and Im here to tell you that sadly, it does not.
An idea against tunneling, that would be way out there but follow me here, is that as soon as someone is hooked twice in a row in a short period of time, the hatch opens and all survivors still in the game are shown its aura an can jump in and would get x2 points and the tunneled player would get 8x points, while the killer gets :2 points.
Now that idea is outrages, rediculous, wont ever happen for a number of reasons but that is just about the only thing that could be done to stop tunneling outright.
Tunneling, returning to the hook, camping, are all cheap strategies, cheap because it requires very little effort and is massively rewarding depending on your own set goals....
And there is that other problem again, goals.
Players play this game not as intended because they have their own goals and those goals interfere with what others would perceive as an enjoyable game, plenty killers dont give 2 cents about bloodpoints or rank, all the want to do is be scum (for whatever probably sad reason) and kill some players, feel in control.
On the other side, if a survivor really does not care for doing gens they will just follow the killer along, this can cost the "team" the entire match but to that player that is of no consequence.
You cannot make players in this game play the game like you want them to play it, its far to open for interpretation for that, the only reason camping is now called a "legit strat" is purely because the devs cannot police it, they cannot enforce any rules on it, its basically an admittance of defeat, they dont want you to play like this but they cant stop you from doing so.
Same for tunneling.
Phew that was a long piece of text, again I dont want to be negative but its the sad truth about this game, but if you think you have actual solutions feel free to post those, but not leaving scratchmarks by default wont do it, though im not against it myself so if they implement it you wont hear me complain.
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Your logic isn't flawless either. Already stated here but I will repeat, in case you ignored it:
If a killer wants to tunnel, he doesn't need scratch marks, he most likely will have LOS. Your change wouldn't prevent tunneling at all.
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Did I ever mention that my suggestion was perfect?
And even if it does not prevent tunneling, are you suggesting that people should just get over it?
I mean, your contribution to the topic is mostly subjective and have no follow ups to a better solution or suggestions.
However,
If your point IS that people should just "git gud" or "suck it up", then I have no point in responding to such an idea...
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My response to this is, that they should not put effort into a solution that doesn't solve anything, there are higher priorities.
And it is not easy to press people into a certain playstyle. So far I have not seen a single post that came up with a working solution for tunneling and camping. And there are hundreds
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Mate, I think you're overestimating exactly how much scratch marks make up for tracking.
Take it from me, I almost exclusively play killer and I have to tunnel whenever I see an OoO. You not leaving scratch marks means literally nothing to me because people have UE'd away from the hook and I end up finding them anyways due to either incompetence, luck or following your blood trail. Removing scratch marks might actually make it easier since they're so annoying in certain maps.
What ZoneDymo is saying is correct, a killer that wants to tunnel WILL tunnel and you can't really stop them unless your team can offer protection hits and bodyblock correctly.
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Look, we are not your enemy man, its just that plenty of us been on this forum long enough to see MANY suggestions on MANY of the MANY problems this game has and we just know they tend to not work
Or heck, some are seemingly good ideas but they wont be implemented or even PTB tested cuz....well these devs ya know.....
If you made the topic about "hey guys, does anyone have an idea on how to stop tunneling" we would be having a different discussion, but you mentioned a very specific way of countering it and again, we are here to tell you that it wont.
And yes, it might seems sad, you might be still passionate about this, but sucking it up is really the best way of dealing with it.
If the killer camps or tunnels or uses OP add ons or brings an Ebony Mori, if that ruins the match for you (I know it does for me, to me its just clear the killer does not actually want to play a match) just run up and die asap, match over, minimal time wasted, on to the next match that is hopefully a better experience.
If everyone would do this then that would also HOPEFULLY change the way killers play as they dont have much of a match this way either.
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Just use DS and and Unbreakable. That way your guaranteed at least one second chance. Also not all killers tunnel off the hook. I know I don’t unless I have no choice.
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It's mostly a survivor problem. Basically someone will rescue and then they'll hide, leaving you defenseless because they can't find anyone else and you're the most prominent target. Survivors who do this are by far the worst players and ones I cannot stand on both sides because if I ever get in this situation I just feel bad when I hit the guy who came off the hook because I don't want to tunnel but they leave me with no other choice since they didn't take the aggro and just hid instead.
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