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Pig or Plague; Hardest to gain Deviousness
During my time playing and trying to get Adept, I've noticed that out of all the Killers I've played, The Pig and The Plague are the hardest ones to gain points in the Deviousness category. So between these two, which one is the hardest to gain Deviousness points?
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The Plague
With Pig, you can use Ambush to get some points, but with Plague there really isn't much of a great way to get Deviousness, of course you can spit on things, but once every bodies broken it's a waste of time.
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It is true that you can use Ambush to get points. But it's extremely hard in the higher levels in seems.
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The Pig
I don’t have a problem gaining deviousness on Plague. Lately my rounds have been 30-32K BP because survivors tend to cleanse more nowadays and I use my Corrupt Purge whenever I possibly can.
With Pig you have to go out of your way to ambush dash when a lot of times it’s just easier to hit them regularly.
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The Pig
Pig gets ZERO deviousness points for an RBT kill and only 500 sacrifice points, while moris and hooks give you 1000. She at least needs more points for that since otherwise it's impossible to fill up the sacrifice category unless you get lots of hooks during the EGC.
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The Pig
I purposely stay away from both of these characters because neither are fun for me, however, the Pig doesn't exactly have much to go on here. You can ambush but when it takes a few seconds to crouch, your FOV is limited because of how low to the ground you are, how slow you move (90% mov. speed so slower than survivors) and the ambush itself has a very loud audio cue, it's not exactly what you would call reliable. The RBT's might as well not even exist, since they're completely RNG related, there are a bunch of problems with those but since they are unrelated to the topic of deviousness I'll hold off on the rant.
The Plague on the other hand might not be as better off, but she's got something that she can use somewhat consistently throughout the entire match. It's boring, it's poorly designed, and about as bad as the Pig, but when it comes to deviousness and BP she's got something. You can throw up on Survivors whenever, and if one of them DOES decide to cleanse then everybody will likely cleanse. Even if they don't you've got one Corrupt Purge to work with at the start of the trial. Even if all the survivors are broken you can still throw up on generators, pallets, windows, lockers, etc. which you should be doing that if they aren't broken but that's besides the point. You still get points for those actions and since there's a static supply of those across the map you'll never run out of things to throw up on
If you haven't been doing this all the time, that's why you're not getting as much deviousness points while using the Plague.
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Infecting items such as Gens, Vaults, and Pallets only grant you +25. And the amount of time it takes to effectively infect something to ensure it lasts awhile is too long. It's just not worth it aside from getting strategic value. Fully infecting a Survivor is +150 and then anytime you do a basic attack on a Survivor, it's +200. +300 if you use Corrupt Purge. For basic purge hits, you only get those points if the Survivor is already infected, I can't speak for Corrupt because I only use it when they are infected. So realistically, you only get to use (1) basic attack on a infected Survivor to gain Deviousness. Max 3 hits before their Death hook if they stay infected. There's no definitive way to effectively gain Deviousness through her unless you go through a slug build and constantly down Survivors.
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The Pig
Yeah, but if you're walking around the map, not doing much except for looking for Survivors not enganged in any particular chase or apply pressure (since most of your pressure is passive, and therefore boring) you might as well be throwing up on anything you pass by.
It's not hard to infect maybe a pallet, a generator, and two lockers all in one swing of your throwup which already nets you 100 bp, that's already two thirds of fully infecting a survivor, which can sometimes take a lot longer (especially if it's done passively) if they know how to use the environment to avoid the muck. Like I said, all in a single zing of you throwing up which is maybe what, 5 seconds? You do that consistently enough and for the entire duration of the match between chases on top of using your ability to it's fullest potential on the survivors themselves and you'll have stacked up a decent amount of bp.
Of course this idea is completely map dependent, this would obviously be much easier to do on Temple of Purgation than on Rotten Fields, but the same can be said for the Pig, it would obviously be much easier for the Pig to sneak around the halls of Lery's Memorial Institute or Hawkins National Laboratory than on Autohaven Wrecker's Yard or The MacMillan Estate's Shelter Woods, thus making it easier to land those surprise ambush hits and use her stealth power much more effectively around those tighter corners and hallways than the open air map where you can see her coming from a mile away. Both killers have maps that make it more effective for them to more easily get bp but only one of them, like I said before, has a "static supply of [assets] across the map [which] you'll never run out of ... to throw up on".
The Plague in this way is far more consistent in how she can potentially achieve more Bloodpoints than the Pig, who is subject to all kind of whimsical variables, what map you're on, how thick the fog is, how experienced the survivors are / how attentive they are, whether or not they're running any awareness perks (IE Spine Chill / Premonition are huge Pig counters [really any Stealth killer, but that's besides the point]), or maybe any stealth perks to avoid your absolutely atrocious FOV while crouched (IE Urban Evasion, Fixated, Iron Will), whether or not they're in an SWF running comms, what perks you as a Pig decide to run, yadda yadda yadda the list goes on and on for how easily your ambush basically your only tool to get Deviousness outside of what, 4 or 5 RBT's that only net 500 bp on kill is what I heard? Which they rarely do.
The short of it is, there is no good or proper way to avoid The Plague's power, once you are sick you are getting fully infected and you're eventually spreading that around or you are cleansing for corrupt purge. There is very little in terms of counterplay to that, but with Pig? The list goes on and on about counters chiefly among them: Just run spine chill, but also range from choosing a map that doesn't help her stealth around, to hop into an SWF and constantly call out her position and what she's close to. Making it much harder for any Pig to get more Bloodpoints
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The Pig
How can you struggle too get devious points as Plague? I'm not saying shes the best, but between her and Pig it's kinda a no brainier. I'd say a better comparison is between Pig and Trapper, since at high levels it's very difficult too get survivors in your traps.
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Other (Explain)
The Shape.
Pig and Plague both have powers that they can use indefinitely.
Michael has a power that runs out.
Oh, and you know why so many people consider him an okay Killer in spite of that? Because he rarely gets to the point where he runs out of power.
While Mandy and Adiris both have various factors that can help them get more Deviousness, if you aren't getting the 2500 bonus for 4k'ing and you aren't using either Mirror, you aren't maxing out Deviousness as Michael.
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The Plague
With Pig you can just camp and ambush attack.
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Other (Explain)
Gonna have to go with Trapper since, you know, no one steps in traps.
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Just slug the last survivor and hit em with that full bleed out timer trap farm
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The Pig
I just experienced that yesterday. We were all dead pretty fast and I think he wanted more points after he hooked everyone but me. Needless to say I just disconnected
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