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My problems with Freddy

Yes I know that there are a lot of other threads on here talking about Freddy but I just want to put my opinion on here. I'm a survivor main but I play both sides (red rank survivor, purple rank killer). Freddy is really unfun to go against as he can spam snares. I don't have a problem with him being able to teleport or his dream pallet add ons. It just doesn't seem right that any killer can just play him and get a 4k. For example with huntress you have to improve your aim, learn timings etcetera. And as survivor believe it or not you have to learn how to run different map tiles. I don't mind going up against nurse and spirit and being killed because I know that they worked to get to this rank and skill and deserve the kills they get. But with Freddy you just need to teleport, place snares and boom 4k. Yes I know that a swf can win against Freddy but shouldn't people solo-queueing be able to to win against Freddy without being god-tier. It just seems a bit off to me but point out if and where I've gone wrong here.

Comments

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    I was debating on investing in purchasing Freddy, considering how well he does. Might as well take advantage on gaining some BP.


    Majority of my games against him are in his favor though, I won't be inconsiderate of that.

  • BingBongBoi_69
    BingBongBoi_69 Member Posts: 39
    edited April 2020

    Yeah you do get a lot of bloodpoints from playing him. I forgot about that xD

    Probably another reason for a lot of people playing him.

  • batax90
    batax90 Member Posts: 879

    Playing freddy is more then that XD if the survivor is awake he dont have a power and is addon wont work if you are awake and you find the pallet to be fine but its the most useless addon he have i dont know with the new update but with the last one in a some map you needed to break pallet before you could start using dream pallet and spamming blood snare is only good because its stop survivor running the same loop over and over again

  • AestheticCharms
    AestheticCharms Member Posts: 136

    They just need to fix his lunge tbh

  • BingBongBoi_69
    BingBongBoi_69 Member Posts: 39

    Yes but what I find at red ranks is that survivors don't wake up that much and prioritise gens over going to the other side of the map to wake up.

  • DWolfAlpha
    DWolfAlpha Member Posts: 927

    Do people just forget that you do everything slower when you're asleep by the time they get to red ranks? Snares, imo, aren't particularly useful to me. They can tell me where someone is, but otherwise they're only good for getting a survivor to leave a loop. If I recall, it also ends blood lust.

  • batax90
    batax90 Member Posts: 879

    If you dont wake up then its the survivor fault you take the risk to be vulnerable waking up make him a M1 killer only with nothing for him exept he can teleport to gen every 45 second

  • Fiv55
    Fiv55 Member Posts: 350

    his lunge isnt broken, just looks weird bc he is pretty short and hits with his claws instead of a big machete.

  • Hag.is.Dtier
    Hag.is.Dtier Member Posts: 1,398

    They should have just improved the old Freddy with some of the many suggestions that were brought up since his nerf.

  • RyanKeily
    RyanKeily Member Posts: 8

    Except for the fact you always get automatically put to sleep.

  • Orionbash
    Orionbash Member Posts: 765

    Omg. I am loving all the survivors coming out of the woodworks to talk about how disgustingly unfun and OP Freddy is. Thanks for adding your voice to the collective! May we finally see a Freddy nerf in the near future that puts him back in F tier where he belongs.

  • BingBongBoi_69
    BingBongBoi_69 Member Posts: 39

    I don't want them to completely nerf freddy they should just make him so you can't just win and you have to put some time and effort in to be able win, like with nurse.

  • RareOmen
    RareOmen Member Posts: 143

    Freddy isn’t as easy as people think, especially at Red Ranks. If you’re dying to a new Freddy every time then an evaluation is needed on your end. His snares help slow survivors and if you’re awake you won’t step in them. If you don’t feel like going across the map to a clock, then either fail a skill check, or find a teammate. Freddy got butchered when they nerfed him, he’s in a good place right now. Just because you’re having difficulty facing him doesn’t mean he needs to be changed.

  • bangbison
    bangbison Member Posts: 104

    You said it man. I would say slow Freddy is boring but makes the game feel like I’m back in brown/yellow ranks. Just waiting for that killer to come and smack me up. Especially when I get close to popping that gen. He’s not the worst killer. At least he has mobility. I would agree that waking up is pointless unless he’s slowing down the game. I like it better in dream state. I can see him coming.

  • TKTK
    TKTK Member Posts: 943

    My problem with freddy is how boring he is to play, teleporting is cool but of all the things he can possibly do snares and fake pallets wouldn't be my first idea personally. I doubt they'll ever change him again but I'd like it if he just got a different type of power thats more active than trap spam which i think is practical in there use but they could have done better by him because he can potentially do anything.

  • OmegaXII
    OmegaXII Member Posts: 2,216

    You know they nerfed his dream slowdown to non-existence few patches ago, right? Those add-ons are now even worse than thana. Generally, all his add-ons suck.

  • bangbison
    bangbison Member Posts: 104

    Man, idk ######### they do or not. I don’t read it all. I’m just saying it’s nostolgic of low ranks. It’s not that bad to deal with. Just reminds me of the thrill I used to get whenabout it pop a gen and looking over my shoulder for that killer coming at me.

  • MPUK
    MPUK Member Posts: 357

    The main issue I have is he has too many snares/pallets. 10 of them is a lot, especially when he has no slowdown when setting them so he can just do them whilst mid loop.


    The other issue is that there is no way to tell what is a fake pallet and what isn't? If you have small game equipped it gives you an alert, that is fine but why are they not showing up on maps that track killer's belongings? Hag traps do, trapper traps do, why has Freddy been exempt from this?

  • Viceus
    Viceus Member Posts: 145

    I also hate vs Freddy when become survivor... especially Freddy with bbq, pop , bambozzle, stbftl or No Ed....

    and I love to use Freddy when become a killer... my build is same above...

    But this is my opinion... Nurse and spirit are more hard to fight than Freddy.... especially pro blink nurse....

  • MPUK
    MPUK Member Posts: 357

    The difference with a good nurse is that they have put some effort in to learning it to that level. Freddy is mindless, if you can't 4k as Freddy on a consistent basis then killer isn't for you.

  • Viceus
    Viceus Member Posts: 145

    Freddy user is mindless? and must get 4K ? Bro even good Freddy when face good SWF they still destroyed.

    My team and I play against red tier Freddy. 2 escape 2 death. Why still 2 death ? Because red memento mori. Why 2 alive? because of key user.. This game is OP for both side but also balance for both side.. There is no way 4K as always... There is also streamer boasting 50+ games.. 4k in row... in the end still lose to hatch player or SWF with keys...

  • Kakateve
    Kakateve Member Posts: 287

    He’s a tiny boi but he has the same linge as Trapper.

  • csandman1977
    csandman1977 Member Posts: 2,358

    Freddy has counters. ALL killers do. The thing is, much like with spirit, nurse, plague, huntress, etc, you as the survivor have to change the way you play.

    It seems to me, that many survivors don't want to do that. They want to play ring around the Rosie into a pallet stun for 5 gens. You can't do that. If you are asleep and there are snares you can't loop. If its pallets, you have to play like you were against doc or clown and throw them early.

    He is a strong killer made even stronger by people not wanting to shift their playstyle.

  • crixus006
    crixus006 Member Posts: 383

    I am main survivor, for me Freddy is ok, he is a killer powerful and it's funny to Scape from him because it's more difficult, I hate week killers because it's to easy and boring to escape from them

  • MPUK
    MPUK Member Posts: 357

    I'm not saying get 4k every game with him I'm saying you should be getting a lot of 4ks. He is mindless, he has everything at his disposal.


    - Add ons that slow the game down

    - Snares that can be spammed around any pallet or loop mid chase without any slowdown whilst he does it.

    - A passive timer that puts you to sleep every 1 minute, even when in a chase this timer progresses but if he gets a hit on you right after you have woken up, you're asleep again. Staying awake isn't an option to avoid his ability as one way or another you will fall asleep in that chase.

    - The passive sleeping gives the user an option to wake up with a clock, that is ALWAYS the furthest one away from you. Why is it not random? Why always the furthest? It is a game slowdown mechanic in a similar vein to removing a reverse bear trap at machines, but with the guarantee this is the furthest point from you, the only difference is it won't directly kill you. The pig can only use their slowdown mechanic a handful of times, Freddy has the potential to use it every minute. The other options are miss a skill check to alert Freddy as to where you are(think there are add ons that show your aura when you miss a skillcheck too) or have someone else wake you up, which increases to a maximum of 16 seconds. There is also an add on that stop one person from waking up all game and another one that limits how people can wake up for the entire game.


    - Teleporting across the map in seconds, this isn't dependent on him getting a hook, it isn't dependent on survivors triggering a trap, he can just zip across the entire map in seconds as long as his short cooldown allows it. This can also be used mid chase, without him actually slowing down to do it.


    - Fake pallets, particularly strong in late game where without running around the entire map all game making a note of which pallets are still active and which aren't there is no way to tell which ones are real and which aren't, even with a map that claims to track killer belongings.


    He gets 10 snares/pallets. Compare that to a clown who gets 4-6 bottles. Compare that to the trapper who can carry a maximum of 3 at a time. You also have to consider both of those have a slowdown related to using their bottle/traps.


    Compare that to other killers I haven't mentioned and he has a load of tools at his disposal to aid him in the game, to say otherwise is delusional.


    Freddy is without a doubt the most well equipped killer in the game. He is also by far the easiest killer to use.

  • AestheticCharms
    AestheticCharms Member Posts: 136

    It Is broken lmao I play freddy and I do it because he's broken af

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,175

    His lunge is the same as any other killers. It like hag with her hands.

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,175