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A way to reduce the grind & encourage one-side mains to try the other side

Milord
Milord Member Posts: 273

What if they split BP into Survivor BP and Killer BP? (Survivor BP can only be used on survivors' bloodwebs and likewise with Killer BP; they're absolutely nontransferable.)

No matter what side you play, you'll earn equal amount of Survivor BP and Killer BP (e.g. if you get 15k playing as survivor, you'll also get 15k in your Killer BP wallet). This way, you can level up both survivor and killer at the same time, reducing the grind by half for players that play both sides (for players that insist on only playing one side, this system doesn't disadvantage them in any way).

With this system, you don't have to get discouraged when you want to try the other side but realize you don't have any perk there yet. Plus, this system avoid the issue of too many very rare add-ons that players encounter if they just boost overall BP gain.

Comments

  • nicknack
    nicknack Member Posts: 253

    While you have good intentions this is a bad idea. If anything it would increase the grind even more especially with the tomes. So good intention bad way of going about it.

  • Milord
    Milord Member Posts: 273

    How would it increase the grind though? Can you explain more?

  • nicknack
    nicknack Member Posts: 253

    Well firstly let me say this. Killer is exponetially easier to farm bp. Many play killer so that they can get to one mill to level up a surv. By taking this away its basicly saying "oh hey you spent all that time getting bp to level up your surrvivor. Now spend it on killer instead". With tomes around this also wouldnt make sense as tome just gives bp so doubt it would be implemented with the tomes. And lastly not everyone likes playing the other side but they still do and saying they cant use the bp they earned on one side is just anti-player freindly. There is no reason at all for this idea to be implemented as it makes no sense. No offense but if i earn bp i should have the right to spend it on whatever side i chose.

  • emptyCups
    emptyCups Member Posts: 1,262

    So you want double bp but spilt for both sides


    Ummm... YESS please


    I love more bp. Always. For all reasons always going to say yes for more

  • Milord
    Milord Member Posts: 273

    I see, so the issue is not that it would increase grind, but rather some players don't want to be told how to spend their BP. I can definitely imagine, if this is implemented, some people will ask for a way to convert Killer BP to Survivor BP (or vice versa), because "they're not gonna play the other side anyway". That's something to consider, though I will say again, if players are not gonna play the other side, they're still not earning any less BP than the peers on their side.

    In terms of tome (and daily), they can either do it so that it also gives equal amount to Survivor BP & Killer BP, or make it a neutral BP that has to first be converted to Survivor or Killer BP before being used.

  • nicknack
    nicknack Member Posts: 253

    Dude take a hintm this will never be implemented. Its a terrible idea many games have tried to do this before and its a crap idea. Its free currency and people should chose hiw they want to spend it. Telling me i have to,play the other side to level my characters up is ludicrous its a bad idea but the current system allows for freedom of choice and thats how it should be. So instead of focusing on something as small as that other stuff should be focused on.

  • Milord
    Milord Member Posts: 273

    Perhaps it'll never be implemented, it's just a suggestion. But I have to clarify, you are never forced to play the other side. Say, if you main survivor and would never ever touch killer, your Killer BP will just sit there undisturbed, not affecting you in any way.

  • nicknack
    nicknack Member Posts: 253

    Point is freedom of choice. They earned it they decide how to and when to use it.

  • Milord
    Milord Member Posts: 273

    Ofc, I understand. I see your concern, but personally I don't see it as a concern. Again, if for example a survivor main earn 15k BP, they are allowed to spend that how they like it on survivors. The 15k Killer BP? They can just pretend it doesn't exist since they'd never touch killer anyway. Meanwhile, people that play both sides will be grateful for that 15k killer BP.

    But I know I'm not gonna change your mind, so I suppose this is the end of our discussion? I'd like to see what other people think of this.

  • Hippie
    Hippie Member Posts: 1,003

    I like this idea, since I'm still unlocking perks on both sides (I only play about 4-5 games per day) and it would really be helpful for the Big Levels. I personally find myself playing Nurse and Legion only on killer side since I am pouring my points into survivor teachables and don't have enough to level up killers like Oni (whom I love playing but have basically no perks on him). And I personally don't see anything wrong with More BPs in general, since the levels of your survivors and killers don't affect gameplay or rank placement in any way, shape or form. I know this isn't an issue for the people with thousands of hours in the game, and I know that people like me will eventually get to that place, but this would really help newer players and people like me who don't have hours to play the game distribute points more evenly and get to enjoy other killers/unlock better perks more easily. (And I would feel more comfortable prestiging the characters that I have at 50, since I wouldn't have to spend eons leveling them back up again!)

    I know that some people might think, "If you don't have the time to grind, then you don't deserve the points", and while I completely agree with that statement in regard to games like Escape from Tarkov (a person who plays more SHOULD have better gear than the person who doesn't play as much), I feel that DbD is a casual enough video game that it really wouldn't be an issue.

  • calem
    calem Member Posts: 533

    I like this idea as I've always said the initial grind to get teachables unlocked is hellishly long and annoying. It gets so boring playing either 1 or 2 survivors or 1 or 2 killers over and over again farming BP. I am someone who never plays the same killer 2 games in a row, or the same survivor build 2 games in a row. I love variety and switching things up. And I play a good 60/40 killer/survivor so this would be a nice addition to my BPs.


    I feel like you don't actually understand what he's trying to say. You said "now spend it on killer INSTEAD", this is not what is happening. You can grind 1 million BP as survivor and spend it on a survivor. That works as intended and how you want it? But now you have 1 million BP to spend on killer AS WELL. I don't understand your reasoning behind what you're saying.

    With the tomes, wouldn't it just make perfect sense that survivor challenges give you survivor BPs, and vice versa for killer? The neutral ones can give you BP for both, or maybe whichever side you completed the challenge with.

    About the "can't use BP they earned on the other side, anti-player friendly thing", I still think you misunderstood what's actually happening with this suggestion. They are earning the SAME amount of BP if they only play survivor/killer to spend on their main side. They are getting ADDITIONAL BPs if they WANT to spend it on the other side. You are earning twice as much BP to spend on both sides.