Lockers and evil incarnate archievement. Update/reworks lockers please
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So again as I said the killer doesn't "deserve" the achievement simply" because" but i also pointed out the fact that the survivor is clearly doing this out of spite. even the reason you listed in your response "No, because it's their problem. If I can die in a way that denies my opponent points, to punish them for a mistake" is exactly my point, its out of spite.
You may argue for or against if you think its morally right or right in the context of the game all you want( I really care not what your stance on such a matter is, and that's not my point) the fact still remains its done out of spite.
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I've had this happen almost every time, or people just continuously vault back and forth to make me stab them instead of grabbing them because the interrupt fails. I've gotten every trophy, but this one, myself. Every time, a survivor gets off on preventing me from getting it, and BHVR has never done anything about it.
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1) If you 3k you didn't 4k.
2) Without hatch, you basically are given a 4k when you didn't actually get a 4k.
3) Survivors are not a team.
4) Without hatch, survivors would just hide and you'd be stuck in a hostage situation, so be thankful it exists as a means to end the game somehow.
5) Closing hatch and EGC completely favors the killer. If you are really going to complain about that, it suggests a lot about how good of a killer you are.
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It's not out of spite. I don't have to do anything the killer wants me to do. It doesn't matter what it is. I've had killers want to farm and just said "no" rushed gens, didn't give hooks, and left.
Why is the survivor obligated to do anything you want, and why is it that if they don't do it for whatever reason it's "spiteful"?
Again, hiding in the locker and waiting to die to EGC might give enough time for them to earn silver Unbroken, which at red ranks is the difference between a depip and a safety pip usually. They also get BP for being inside the killer's TR. So it's not like they don't have ulterior motives to avoid being instantly killed even if the game is effectively over.
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In my mind, while I read this, I pictured you crossing your arms and plopping down on the ground like my nephew does when he doesn't get what he wants. I mean, I feel like your conviction for your point here comes from so many other places than people getting this trophy. It's like you've had killers tell you, 'tunneling and camping is in the game, and the devs are ok with it, deal with it.' and now you have this opportunity to harness that same attitude, just for the sake of it, and you do it. Like, what is in it for you to prevent someone from getting a trophy? Why wouldn't you want someone to get a trophy, when the game is ending, you're going to die, they clearly won?
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1 if you didnt do gens and escape (which is survivors offical objective) you failed just as well as a killer not getting a 4k.
2 with hatch your given a free escape where you could have just hid the entire game and waited for your team to die to get the hatch (this happened a bit with the rift hatch challenge id have teammates who would just not help wait for us to die then grab hatch definitely not earned when i looped the killer and did gens)
3 no but they all have the main objective of doing gens and surviving if everyone plays selfish the team falls apart which is when the killer should be at their strongest they are at their weakest when the survivors actually work together.
4. Your right but survivors already sometimes do that as the last 2 and just hide which is a bannable offense accodding to the devs and should just trigger the egc instantly after like 5 minutes of a gen not being even tapped.
5. Actually im a survivor main rank 1 actually and rank 7 killer yet ive gotten here by not being a jerk. And of course the egc should favor killer considering he found the hatch first you lost your free chance of escape (which like i said isnt earned anyway this is why i think keys need a fix since you could just do 2 gens have a survivor die find the hatch and press r1 for free escape but im not gonna do moris and keys discussion here.
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I play killer quite a lot, at red ranks so not sure where you are coming from.
"Like, what is in it for you to prevent someone from getting a trophy?"
Because....
YOU
DID
NOT
EARN
IT
Why am I the bad guy for not handing you an easy achievement? Why do I need to do ANYTHING you want me to do?
I've literally ran away from hatch when the killer wanted me to hatch. IDGAF if he wants me to take hatch, if I don't want it I don't want it. There's nothing else to it. I've let EGC kill me when the killer wanted me to escape.
Truth is I don't have to do anything the other player wants me to do. I never expect survivors to do what I want when I'm killer. If they do, cool. If they don't well I just do something else with them.
"Do you get that much satisfaction out of crossing your arms, and plopping on the ground, and whining until you get your way?"
The irony with this statement is very very strong.
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I can't exactly do 5 gens by myself. If I am solo and get matched with 3 potatoes, I basically get punished for other people's mistakes. Right, that sounds fair.
"Free escape" LOL I love when people make this statement. It's only a free escape if they killer let's it be a free escape. You can either slug for the 4k (which most killers do), or, if hatch has spawned, close the hatch. When I have 2 survivors left and they did 3 or more gens, I go looking for hatch, so that when I find a survivor I can kill them, rush to hatch, and close it. Now we are in EGC and I have a massive advantage, the survivor basically has to stealth me while also opening a door which, given how close doors often spawn, is almost guaranteed not to happen.
Also it's only bannable if it is egregious. That whole thing is very fuzzy. If there are 3 gens super close to each other and survivors are hiding while the killer is patrolling them then it's not actually bannable because the killer is protecting the gens. If the killer ######### off to some corner of the map and goes AFK, allowing ample freedom to do the gens and they STILL hide, then yes that's bannable. But I've NEVER actually seen or heard of this happening, it's a fictitious event as every time at least 1 survivor will get found at some point, which then means they are dead, which then means hatch is available. If they still refuse to leave, close hatch now there is no more hostage situation.
You guys can gang up on me all you want, doesn't change the fact you are basically asking for a free achievement. No one owns you anything.
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They have a point. Getting in a locker is playing to the survivors outs. They know you want to tombstone them, so they know that if you pull them put they could potentially escape. So they either 100% lose if they get out on there own accord, or take the smallest chance to survive by you pulling then out and then letting them wiggle off.
No one needs to give anyone anything. Playing against a The Shape whos running those addons is annoying, since its stopping the survivors getting any altruism points whatsoever, so you can't use the moral highground arguement since just by running the addons you choose a selfish playstyle. You're not budging an inch, so why should they
You have the guy dead to rights, could easily just pull them out and hook them, but because they won't let you kill them how you want to is BM? Either kill them or be a hypocrite
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LOL right I AM THE ELITIST! For expecting others to earn an achievement.
"I think the problem is you sound like an [BAD WORD] when most people would emphatize over someone trying to get an achievement that is incredibly annoying and frustrating to get because you need to burn Ultra Rare Add-ons, basically play like crap the whole game, hope you are versing potatoes, to get a chance of getting this achievement."
The difficulty of said achievement is not my problem. It is YOUR problem. If you want to waste your time trying to get it, that has nothing to do with me. I don't empathize for anyone asking for free achievements.
Seriously 1.0 in Gears of War 1 (not Ultimate Edition, 1) is a hard ass achievement to get. You need 10,000 kills in RANKED games. I gave up on it when I found out that your kills do not count if a player quits the game, which is such a frequent thing I'm surprised ANYONE ever got this achievement. I have every other Seriously achievement in every game from 2-4, including Seriously 3.0 LEGIT which is probably an even harder achievement (but less dependent on other players). That said, I'm not going to blame other players for quitting and denying me my achievement, accusing them of just being spiteful, when it is the way the achievement works ITSELF that is the problem.
If you guys want to be mad at anyone, be mad at BHVR for making such a stupid achievement. As someone said, if mori's would count then they could just put on JT and a mori and it wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem to get.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Tombstoning 3 =/= tombstoning 4, unless the science people changed math recently.
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This is how micheal should mori survivors in lockers
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Just have his locker grab animation stab through their forehead. Problem solved.
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Just my thought but wouldn't dh be better then a tombstone assuming you could keep it up.
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Your entire premise is toxic, ffs. Get the hell over yourself.
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