Why can killers see our names in the lobbies?
This is not a discussion about seeing what items survivor bring, this is about usernames only.
I'm trying to figure out the reasoning behind making killers see our names in lobbies. Looped a killer and escaped? Next time I'm gonna get tunneled or morried, and the excuse of reporting killers that target a certain survivor doesn't work since I can't report him for morrying or tunneling me now unless I bait him tinto saying in chat that he only wanted me.
Another situation is playing against the same killer multiple times that he recognizes what perks I run, If I don't have ds he knows and I will get tunneled to death, knows I have unbreakable so I don't get slugged. (Middle East DBD is a small community, I can play against the same killer multiple times in a day)
Are there any other reasons why killers can see survivor's names?
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It’s our privilege to see our victims 😀 joking I play on both sides equally. I know some people say it’s not fair that killers can see survivors names and survivors can’t see killers until after the game ends but honestly If survivors saw killers and their names it would lead to people dodging lobbies especially if it’s someone they played against previously who was toxic on either Side.
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Killers shouldnt be able to see usernames since the only thing it does is promote toxicity yet killer mains will still try to defend it
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Oh I'm not asking for survivors to see killers' names in lobbies, I want to know what is the reason behind making killers see survivors' names since it only brought me toxicity.
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I'd say it's the same reason killers are allowed to see the survivors before the game, to get a grasp of what they are up against
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So you agree that killers shouldn't see our names just like survivors can't so games don't turn toxic.
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Side question: But is it really such an issue that you meet up with the same Survivors over and over again as Killer? Because I personally have only ever met the same player once in recent weeks, I haven't been able to meet up with the same Survivors back to back. At least here in the WA Region.
Sure, some people have a "List", but they aren't really a majority. Most of your games you will still find Killers who don't know you, and probably won't remember you even if you two meet each other again.
Personally, I would prefer to go with Survivors being able to see the Killer's username since at least if you suspect someone has a "Hit" on you, you can dodge and matchmaking will fill up that lobby shortly after you leave.
I personally prefer to know who I am up against, sure I haven't been able to use that knowledge in recent weeks, but it usually leads to some funny conversations like this:
(For context, I saw a Survivor with the same username as the one I found a couple matches ago, so I decided to play with the exact same build I faced against them just for fun. It then lead to this weirdly wholesome exchange.)
(Yes I used Mother-Daughter Ring and Yakuyoke Amulet, I wanted to also guarantee I get kills that game.)
(And Yes, I will keep my promise if I see their name again.)
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I just think they should allow survivors to see the Killer's username and make it fair. There's no reason not to. Then you could just dodge them if they were an ass or bring streamers if they were fun.
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I disagree with survivors seeing killers' names.
Good killers will get dodged, famous streamers will only get trolling games, and killers who only main one killer will get outplayed.
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This may be way off topic, but how do you have all the icons "cartoon-ized?" Is that some kind of modification? I watch many streamers and what not (N00b3 and Monto mostly) and yet I see sometimes they have these animated icons (N00b3 more than anyone) I figured if it's some kind of mod that I myself could get in trouble for using it.
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And that's not what I was saying, look... Toxicity will be in video games for as long as PvP is a thing. I understand what your saying, but you also have to remember that in order to be a decent survivor the first step is communication. No killer is going to be like, "Oh hey, Hillbilly... Nurse here, just found out there are two in the main building of the map." I understand your notion on toxicity but really the names don't matter... All it does is show the killer who and what they are up against, same would be said for survivors and they would remember certain killers. What if your a Billy main people REALLY don't like and want to practice Nurse one day? Next thing you know you come across a group of 4 who have you on their list? It'd be painful to deal with
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Some people use the survivors' names to distinguish which one is the obsession when the game starts and they are running a build where the obsession is integral.
Other that pretty niche thing, no clue.
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How does knowing my name help the killer in knowing what he is up against? And if it doesn't matter why not remove them then?
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Look up tutorials on how to add custom icon packs to DBD.
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There are claws around the obsession. I see the claws if I'm running pwyf, I don't look at their names.
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Just like good survivors will get tunnel mori'd and good survivor streamers will get trolling games?
Your argument can be that anyone seeing names is unfair and NO ONE should see them. But any argument where it's ok for Killer's but not for Survivor's is just invalid. There's no reason that I've ever heard that doesn't go both ways.
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Yeah but if you pay attention during the lobby to the names of the survivors and how they look and who they're playing and then check who is the obsession in the pause menu, you know who to go for.
Not saying it's optimal, just saying I've seen people doing it.
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See if it doesn't matter then why support the arguement that they need removed?
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I'd much rather see actual usernames than simply "Claudette" or "Dwight". I'd rather see a username someone made up to associate with themselves than no name at all. If they made a change to hide people's usernames I would never play killer again. It would feel so soulless and empty, it's hard to describe but some of you might know what I mean.
Edit: just to clarify I've never seen the same person's username twice and thought "oh, they beat me last round time to bring iri head Huntress with a Mori just for him." I've never understood why people do that. It's just petty imo. And I can definitely put up with a little bit of petty revenge from killers, that almost never happens btw, to make the killer experience less dehumanising.
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I said in the thread that I disagree with survivors being able to see the killer's name/
It was you who said that it's doesn't matter in the first place...
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So killers can lobby dodge and survivors can't, is what you're saying?
Sorry, it came off that way.
It would lead to more lobby dodging, yes, but so does killers seeing our names in lobbies.
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Yes, I read that.
What you should mean is you disagree with either side being able to see the opposing person(s) name. Otherwise it is a complete double standard.
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I'm asking to know why killers should see our names, and so far no good reason was given.
I believe no one should be able to see names till the end chat.
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I mean, all in all it really doesn't matter. Names or not the killer can still see what characters they are up against and what items they are bringing. I just don't see a point to this is all. It's not really game breaking, very few people really complain about it in comparison to all other issues on these threads. It's just a thing the devs did that we have all grown to accept and continue on our lives with.
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i kind of agree that killers shouldnt be able to see survivor names but is okay if they can see the items they are bringing to the game after all you as killer should be able to prepare for what you are going agaisnt... is a 4 v 1 in an asimetrical unbalanced game towards survivors, give the klillers at least the chance to prepare if u are gonna bring 3 flashlights or 4 flashlights or 4 medkits so he can decides if bring good addons or not or an strong killer or not.
also if u are on pc there is nothing u can do because you can check steam profiles anyway and if i see the same picture, or if i see taht you changed your name because i am suspecting u are a certain person it doesnt matter if i cant see your name in looby i can just check your steam profile. usually i dont have that problem because i win almost every match by avoiding loobys with keys and that unfair stuff so is not a problem for me, if i notice ttoxicity i will jsut play as the biggest scumbag on earth and youll lose or at least more than half of the team will die, for sure. and if u were toxic i will proably remember your names, but 90% of the tiem im a chill man id rather DODGEEEEE try hards lobis cause i hate using moris, unless u were a piece of..... then i will make one exception so u may learn to stop being toxic.
but i do agree, killers shouldnt know survivor names is not necessary to prepare for the game unless u want to make sure that one survivor is not gonna enjoy the game or the entire team, even if i think they should get some of their own aswell sometimes.
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I've stated in my OP how names can and have ruined games for survivors with toxic killers.
Please don't try to dismiss a criticism without actually giving a valid excuse other than "it doesn't matter"
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But how again is it a criticism?? It's just a function that has been here since release of the game and your just now complaining about it as if it broke your game lol. I'm not dismissing your point as much as I'm just asking why it matters? So what if someone recognizes you and brings a little more to play with? What if they lobby dodge you? A part of becoming better at a game is to play against people who are better than you and learning from it. If it's someone who recognizes you and wants to give you a run for your money you should be all too happy to play against them and learn ways to try and outplay them. I don't understand how this is such a big deal to you lol. I'd be far more concerned with other bugs and issues that need fixed than if a person can see your name in the lobby
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I'm pretty sure the developers can hide the ability to check survivor's Steam profiles while in lobbies.
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Being in the game since release isn't a valid excuse for why it shouldn't be removed.
"brings a little mroe to play with" is a nice way of saying morri and tunnel. And your argument about the killer preparing for me doesn't work since for me to know how to outplay him I too need to know his name before the match so I can change my perks accordingly but that's just unfair.
I repeat, I' not asking to see killer's name since I play mostly Meyers and if survivors knew me I would be countered hard.
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Either remove the survivor names/add the killer's name/remove the ability to view steam profile in lobby.
This is also one of the things that we have been asking the devs for years, and I have yet to see them respond to it.
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Again though, your point just doesn't have enough cause behind it. What more would this accomplish for either side? Sure it would reduce the amount of "hits" that killers would do or "lobby dodges" but a killer can choose to do that at any given time regardless who the survivors are. That's like getting mad at a game like Call of Duty for having a scoreboard screen before the match starts or getting mad at For Honor for showing your enemies and teammates names while on the loading screen... It's just not that major of an issue to require change lol, maybe if people started holding grudges more and harassed each other then I could see viable reason for change. However that's not even close to the case. I understand your upset by it and want to know why it's so "one sided" as you act it to be. However it really doesn't change all that much unless you have met the person before (in which case can't you just block them and then never have to see them again or does steam not work that way?)
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If it would help reduce toxicity even by a little bit why not do it?
If it doesn't matter for killers at all just like you said but some survivors are getting targeted because of it why not remove it, how would that hurt DBD in any way?
So far no good argument was posted here to why names should be visible.
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And no good arguement was posted to prove it lol, I understand again what your saying. But there is plenty more important work at hand that is needed long before anything like this is "brought to light"
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It's just name removing, I'm not asking for the moon here.
I gave my reasons, you failed to disprove them or offer a valid reason why killers should see survivors' names so you say no good argument was given...
Unless you have a solid reason for why killers should be able to see names and profiles before the match don't try to shut down the discussion by saying it doesn't matter (which in a way is agreeing with me that it should be removed)
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Gameplay-wise there is no reason to show names or profiles, it can easily be removed.
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Devs addressed this like years ago, no amount of foot stomping is going to change it. Killers need to see what they are going up against, survivors can prepare for battle as they feel fit, but killer needs to see what they are holding etc,... 4 flashlights may need to bring "Lightborn" etc, anyone who fails to see why, its becaue they are a survivor main and dont play both sides.
Those of us who play both sides can easily see why.
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It´s an outdated mechanic. People who are trying to defend this mechanic are entilted killer mains who dont want to lose the option to cherry pick their enemys.
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Why exactly does the Killer need to see the name and profiles?
Items I 100% agree, not to name or profiles.
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You couldn't read the first sentence in the OP?
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So are there any mods or devs here that can give us and idea to why this is good/bad?
I'm repeating myself for the third time here, this is about usernames not items.
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everyone should see the other team's usernames or nobody should, killers can dodge toxic survivors but survivors don't have that luxury.
I went against a clown and right afterward ended up with him again. upset that me and my friend escaped, he facecamped him to death with bubba.
simply knowing his name would've prevented that boring game. he still lost, when I swf I don't recklessly save. I helped finish the remaining gens and the rest of us escaped, my friend on the other hand had a dull quick game just because a repeat killer got pissy.
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But if they hide names I can't name myself "Mori me daddy Myers" and have the killer play Myers.
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Honestly there is no other reason for it than so people can dodge the players they don't like going up against.
I don't mind it because most of the players who hold grudges are normally doing this because they got beat. It's nice to have a challenge.
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I don’t really care but people say they could dodge killers and then they would whine about even more abysmal queue times and that’s the last thing I want, more whining and complaining
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Simple, as long as there is no "Avoid-Player-Option" I put toxic people on my ignorelist. If one of them is in the lobby I'll dodge or bring a mori. I'll usually dodge, because those people are not worth my time.
I'm talking about those toxic survivors, that will do everything ingame to get under your skin or insult you during endgamechat or who will wish you cancer, not the ones who are good at flashlightsaves or looping.
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they talking about see the survivor username not the items they carrying.
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We need to see the names.
If I couldn't see the names I couldn't dodge the people I've added to my list.
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It would be impossible to report someone for cheating or hacking without their username.
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But this logic is unfair because why can't survivors see the killer's name to avoid the toxic ones too?
I'm not asking for survivors to see killers' names, I think killers seeing our names is not beneficial to the outcome of the game other than to target certain players
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I'd have no problem with that. I actually think there should be an ignore list that we can add folk to so we don't have to play against them.
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I've no problem with survivor names not being shown. If a trade off is possible, remove survivor player names and just make the key more obvious to see.
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