SWFs have an exploitable weakness
To beat a high rank SWF, you just need to slug and proxy camp on a high tier Killers like Freddy, Spirit, Oni or Nurse.
The weakness of SWFs is that they're overly altruistic and rarely do the smart thing, which is leaving their friends behind. You can prey on the fact that they group up and are prone to getting in messy scenarios with saves and slugging. That's how you beat them or at least stop from being gen rushed and secure a few kills.
The funniest thing for SWFs is when they all bring toolboxes or all bring flashlights. And you run Agitation or Lightborn to counter what you can guess they're running. They'll waste so much time on their dumb sabo and flashlight plays that keep failing that those perks are some of the best slowdown in the game.
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I think what you may be realizing is that SWFs are still really bad at the game.
Also, I kind of want to argue that Nurse is not a high tier killer. Just potentially. On paper. Really strong. But her ease of use and lack of consistency makes me think Spirit and Freddy are the top of the tiers. I love Oni too. And Nurse. ButI rarely feel out of control as Spirit.
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I feel I know how to use her. There are bugs, map dependency, multiple floor structures, and high punishment for mistakes that makes me think she is not strong enough to be considered a high tier killer. Maybe she’s just the best killer on MacMillan or like Red Forest but it’s extremely unsatisfying playing her on Rotten Fields or Haddonfield. I feel like when I lose with her that I could take down the same team with Spirit.
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On PC. On Console she's terrible.
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I can get on board with not including bugs but she has a ton. It’s why I’m hesitant to drop Hillbilly in his bugged form but I haven’t seen an acknowledgement that he is bugged. Makes me think he was intended to be nerfed and if that’s the case he needs to drop down the Tier List.
It’s exactly because of Nurse overall I don’t consider her number one. If you spawn on Haddonfield or a corn map, you are not the best killer in the game.
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SWF teams don't have any exploitable weaknesses. Except stupidity.
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how in the holy mother of hell does nurse have "ease of use" ?
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...Which is why I don't sacrafice myself for my SWF.
Being on a voice chat doesn't make me turn stupid, and it gives me the ability to yell at anyone who is.
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Pretty sure it's Spirit and Freddy that have the ease of use and they just worded it poorly.
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Freddy sucks compared to Spirit, Nurse, Oni, Hag and Billy. He's at Doc's level, where he's a good killer, but certainly not top tier imo.
Anyways, Nurse is still amazing if you figure out her mechanics and which spots are bugged. I'd be willing to bet that she'd be way more played if she wasn't littered with an obscene amount of bugs.
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To the OP, you're talking about dumb SWF's, smart ones wont be so altruistic and you won't be able to "exploit" it against them.
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I'm on PS4 as well. I've come across maybe a handful of Nurses that are a challenge - I'm in red ranks so not going against baby killers. I can't consider her to be the best killer because from my experience playing against her she does the worst.
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Could this be a PC thingy? I haven't seen an Xbox nurse in months at red ranks.
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@JPLongstreet While they are rare, they're out there. I think people would just rather play another Killer that isn't such a headache to master. Blinking through the Exit Gates with NOED and Blood Warden equipped and then waiting for them to come to you is absolutely hilarious and my favorite thing to do with her.
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Not all swfs will play aultruistic. You are just grouping dumb swfs,and classifying each one as that cause most of them are exactly that. There are smart swfs out there,who will let their teammates die on the hook,and will just do gens ending in a 2k mostly. For slugging,that's again the survivors' mistake. They need to make sure each of them is doing a separated gen,and ofcourse they shouldn't be grouped up to avoid those slugging situations.
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With the frame drops and latency she feels impossible, I've tried. Now with a recharge on blinks and numerous bugs, who would put in hundreds of hours just to have your swings get dedicated?
So I main Piggy.
The Xbox1 is too weak imo for this game, dunno about the Xbox1x. Optimization prolly could have helped her more than any other single Xbox killer, but it never happened and now is unlikely with the next gen consoles looming.
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If theyre gen rush squad they also dont bother with bones. Do with that what you will 😈
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you sir, are a genius
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Yeah SWF players could be bad survivors. If they're good they're unbeatable, so your "counter" is just a way to beat bad survivors.
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Trust me, he doesn't match up to the other killers I mentioned. :P
He's a great killer though, I love him. I play him from time to time.
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If I see two or more flashlights I equip lightborn and if I see a map and key I equip Franklin's lol first dude I'm going for is the one with the key lol
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Yea I've brought down entire SWF teams before like that, not because I was intentionally slugging or camping, but them simply congregating at the same spot like bees to honey, or flies to rubbish.
However, good teams will disperse and juggle their roles. With so much situation awareness afforded through external comms, they don't have to all do the same thing at the same time.
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I prefer to use Dream pallets tbh.
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That explains a lot.
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Explains a lot about what?
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