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When are they nerfing moris?
Seriously, I'm so damn tired of getting spirits and freddies that sweat mori and tunnel off first hook every other damn game.
It's always a green rank killer, and I'm in RED RANKS.
Fix matchmaking too while you're at it, because green rank killers are the majority of the killers that do that.
Seriously. Moris and Keys need to either GO or BE FIXED.
I want to play the game.
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This is a mori and key post btw lmao the title would've just been too long
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Probably never is my guess.
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When are they nerfing keys?
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For real man keys I was chasing someone who was on dead hook and he was going down in like 20 seconds cause injured and there was still 1 full gen left, it would be ez 4 kill but no 2 dudes escape with hatch then I have to go back and close the hatch because it is freaking freddy's school and ez 3 man escape
4 kill turns into 1 kill because of one survivor item how is it fair ?
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Remember when you could Mori on first DOWN?
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Ah yes the good old days.
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It’s a shame that Red Rank killer gameplay is unfun, maybe if it was more bearable you’d get more Red Rank killers
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moris were already nerfed which is why people onlyu really use them for the daily rituals and tomes etc,... moris are literally a killer daily thats the only reason people run them these days after the nerfs.
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HAHAHA.
Yeah, thats the only reason. Sure. Moris are possibly the most broken thing in this game. Even worse than Keys, who are also BS. And that they got nerfed does not make them balanced at all.
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Let me guess you werent here when the old moris were. If you were you would understand my comment.
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when are we nerfing keys and gen times?
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Never
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I would give Mori if key would avoid escape by hatch to several players and doesnt start the ECG
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Probably never as they have already been nerfed. Before a killer could mori instantly.
The only change I would like to see are Mori's and keys to actually be extremely rare and have a set pattern so say one in every 10 or 20 bloodwebs. I don't mind over powered items or offerings but they should not be the norm imo.
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Well....if your a red rank, and they are green, isn't it fair they can even the odds a bit.
You should be complaining about the MM. Then you could get moried by a killer of equal skill level.
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One of the problems with that is, as a killer main, you will get mori daily rituals regularly, and having to level 10-20 bloodwebs just gto get a dailyu done will make it painful to accomplish.
Survivors get daily rituals that dont ask them to do anything out of the ordinary, for example "repair gens for 120 seconds" you do that normally and theres no challenge to it, killer mains get mori rituals that you have to have a offering to even do. Rituals need balancing.
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Aahhh the Mori. The great equalizer for green rank killers vs. red rank survs. Perfectly balanced. As all things should be. 😂
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Those can be changed of course but even then it would stop players using them every other game as right now I can get 10 mori's easily in say 5 bloodwebs with how rng it is now.
The same with keys if rng favors you then you will have too many appear. Then there are chests. Using plunderers I got 3 keys in 4 games.
These items are complained about not just because of what they are but more so how often they are seen.
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The thing is, something being rare does not make it balanced. I mean, currently Moris are not rare, especially the Ebony Mori is more of an yellow Bloodweb Item than a pink one.
Buf if they would be as rare as you suggest, they would also need to be removed from Killers who already have them. Because there are people with Hundreds of Ebony Moris on their Killers. And while this would be logical to remove them, it would not really be fair.
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Nothing will stop people hoarding items or offerings or those who have already done so but that doesn't mean a change shouldn't happen which helps in the future.
The game isn't meant to be 100% balanced with these items as they are designed to be complete game changers.
As I said items like this aren't the issue as the use of them is by design but its seeing them way too often along with players taking the game too seriously when they are used.
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The killers can use a mori only if you wanted to. Can”t remember last time a killer used a mori on me. Perhaps in 2017
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yep, a mori can still be countered.
Dont get caught, and no such thing as a mori LOL
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Not exactly. You don”t need to play against a mori
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"It always a green rank killer and I'm in red ranks"
Well there you go. As a green rank killer who gets 50/50 balanced match/red ranks flashlighty loop squad, the Mori is the great equalizer. Your complaint is about matchmaking not mori's.
After four complete sweaty survivor games which really are not much fun, yeah I might bring a mori. Even if you mori one person to take the edge off its done its job. If I have a lucky streak of games and pip up into purple ranks, which has happened a lot, then I might bring a mori as the matchmaking in that range is still punching above my weight class and again it takes the pressure off. I'm sorry to the guy who gets it but that's the nature of the game.
Same goes for keys, if they all jump through the hatch with a key then GG, it happens. Doesn't happen every game but it does happen. If they jump through the hatch when I'm bearing down on them with NOED or a full Devour hope then bummer oh well it happens. GG and move on.
Mori's and keys are fine maybe a bit too common in the bloodweb but otherwise fine. If you want to avoid any post game EZ, baby etc, BS then just skip the chat, you know the mori or key tilted the game whether it was you who used it or not. GG and move on.
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The fact that people are calling mori an “equaliser” for games where the rank disparity is too large just shows that moris are unbalanced. An item which allows a player with less experience to beat players who should win (if ranks are accurate) is an item which is inherently unbalanced. If moris were balanced they wouldn’t allow lower ranked killers to win against survivors they should be losing against.
Fix matchmaking and nerf moris.
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Good point about equalizing.
Perhaps ebony mori's should be after second hook thus allowing you to skip the need to pickup and hang the survivor. Still saves you time but isn't as oppressive as first hook mori (although the animation can be long so may not save you much time). It also still works as a counter to the DS run out the door in the EGC play. If you hooked that person twice then hey you earned the mori.
Then keys would have to be usable only during EGC, rather than waiting for last player to get hatch multiple players can get the hatch early, but keying out with gens left is just again game stunting.
I think these changes would temper their balance issues a lil while still allowing them to be used to impact game balance. Remember these items are designed to impact game balance. That's their purpose. So if the community find them to oppressive then I think the changes above could temper that a lil.
Again typically when people key out on me its already a survivor side snowball so I don't really notice. Being a generally casual gamer crutch'ing out on the occasional mori is just a bit of fun. I still say they are fine as is, but if they changed them a lil it wouldn't be the end of the world.
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I get mori dailys once every 2 months, what are you talking about?
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Doesn't change the fact that moris are still way too strong now.
BNP were also nerfed once so they don't complete a gen in an instant,but they were nerfed another time because they weren't balanced even after the nerf.
Same with moris.They aren't as strong as they used to be,but that doesn't mean they are balanced yet.
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Only appear In P1
less common in P2
As common as they are now in P3
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I know, I got to rank 9 as killer and already started getting red rank survivors.. got to rank 5 and stopped playing.
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It's not like it's a secret when the killer uses a mori, I don't understand why it's an issue. Just play like you're afraid of the killer for once and it should be fine. You might not win as easily but the killer's still got to catch and hook you, then down you again to use it. Just... don't let him do that? If he's tunneling/camping the mori doesn't really save that much time so just play like you would vs a killer who tunnels/camps.
Personally I like moris just so I can turn off all the dumb survivor BM in advance and play a game where it doesn't take three times longer than it should to kill someone (cause of passive "nevermind you didn't actually get me perk stacking) every now and then. I generally save the actual mori effect for the flashlight clickers and teabaggers, if they weren't paying attention, or for when it becomes apparent that they're all stacking get-out-of-jail-free cards, but most of the time it's just a loading screen threat to ward off the incessant bullying behavior from normally too safe survivors.
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Pretty sure they're just gonna make moris apart of every killers base kit like Pyramid Head. That is if they ever get around to changing it
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