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SWF=Red Mori
Honestly it's just the way it is, ttv is usually rewarded with extended games where I try to make it a scary intense game without using meta gameplay but swf….you get hooked once and I proxy camp, sure I wont pip but it beats depipping, thankfully BHVR has been really generous with red moris , I get bullied enough by high rank survivors so having this crutch, while it may be a crutch, is a much needed bandaid to lack of diverse ranks. Watching twitch streamers you'll see the excellent communication where the killer's location is always known so there's no point and trying to play by any honor system because you're already fated to be completely wrecked.
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Well... Can't blame you.
Playing against gen aggressive SWF teams feels like playing a different game sometimes. Even if you get your downs quickly gens fly anyways. Just tried to play an overly fair Pyramid Head match. Longest chase was less than 30 seconds.
I noticed the gens were flying like nothing so at 2 gens I tried to slug using Knock Out. Even though the survivor was slugged in a dead zone he got picked up the moment I left (no Unbreakable). 4 man escape despite quick downs and not even one single 1+min chase.
Last gen popped while I was chasing someone. Person got Adrenaline. I dropped the chase and just opened the gate and wanted to move on to the next game.
They however decided to toy around in the map, open the other gate and waited till the very last EGC second before leaving even though I didn't tunnel, didn't camp and only tried to slug 1 single time with Knock Out which was pointless as they were on voice coms.
Got BM'd via vault spam and received a party inv where all 4 survivors were in. Everyone was acting childish as hell.
I ended up playing Bubba for the rest of the day.
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I'd post pics of my last match if the site didn't crash everytime, three toolboxes, I don't understand why people lie about being SWF either when you can literally check the profile and it says the other players name in their friends list. I hate being scummy, but I hate being victim to scum even more.
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not every swf is a deathsquad you know. Some swf squads play to ya know, have fun?
I use to play swf with my friends before they quit the game, we use to run meme builds for fun, we werent too concerned about winning. Just because it's a swf does not mean they are out to make your life hard dude.
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Unfortunately it's in my best interest to play safe regardless, for many swf although they are trying to innocently have fun it ultimately is due to whooping the killers butt or having a fun game. I've never seen a swf group attempt to have fun by losing. Also when they want to farm they fail to mention they all expect to live.
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devs are forcing people to play swf,don't blame them, they have no other choice
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I'm not angry at them at all, I wouldn't say it's a community problem moreso a individual problem. I'm just new to the game so being queued against the top ranks since rank 20, i'm just really in a tryhard phase now where I value my ranking progress and general success. I'm not going to hate on anyone for having fun, due to the competitive nature of the game though I know it would be at my expense....and I can't have that now can I? :p
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the survivor fights against his bad companions and the killer against time, the game is not competitive
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So your assumption is that they're bad? Why am I going against red ranks perpetually then? Shouldn't they depip if they're bad?
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I don't mori. It's boring and basically a guaranteed win. Even a green mori. Taking 1 survivor out early and then just steam rolling the three that can't effectively do 5 gens is boring. An iri mori is going to depip you if you kill everyone off hook and you'll get little BP. Just learn how to go against SWFs. If you have an effective build it's not all that hard for a lot of killers.
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I'm new so I don't have the perks yet. I have bitter, spies from the shadows, whispers, and sloppy.
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SWF=Spirit or sometimes Doctor
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How do you know they are swf? Your guessing based off how they look or their languages unless you see something that guarantees they are a swf. Stuff like:
- Profile Description
- Photo of their team
- Friend list
Other than that your just guessing. It may seem obvious but those are the times your usually wrong.
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So you tunnel mori people because they want to have fun playing a game with their friends? Kind of an ######### move, bruh. But whatever. You do you.
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Nothing wrong with a mori just as there is nothing wrong with a key. It’s part of the game and if it happens then queue up again and suck it up.
Mate don’t feel bad for bringing a mori. Even if you only kill one person because they are a serious loop group then the mori has done it’s job.
you’ll get salt, abuse, moaning. You also get taunted if you fail to kill anyone with it, but it doesn’t matter. You are not responsible for anyone else’s fun.
I’m not saying go out there and grief people but a mori is part of the game. Use it if you want, just the same as keys.
also not all swf are out to bully people but it can feel like it sometimes.
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He is describing griefing SWF groups...so...
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The game is not balanceed around SWF; the main issue is that they can effectively coordinate saves. 1 Guy usually goes to save and if you catch that 1 guy who goes to save by surprise immediately another goes.
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That's usually what I do. I depend on swf to be altruistic so I proxy camp and try to patrol the nearest 2 gens so I essentially have 3 objectives covered.
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gen rush is pretty boring IMO
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And he is not every killer, you know that, too? So whats the problem with one killer doing that?
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Precisely.
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You aren't going to get any better as killer if you just resort to using a broken offering when playing against a SWF. I'm not going to tell you to stop using them or anything because I don't have the authority to do that but you are not going to improve in skill by simply taking the easy route every time.
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Broken offering? Buddy, I'm going against broken matchmaking, purple toolboxes with red gears, 16 perks v my four and you're going to call my offering to even the odds broken? You're not going to get any better if you keep trying to ######### on low level killers.
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I check, I don't assume.
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Not every swf is out to get you, not every swf is purposely trying to get low rank killers. You can't blame the players for the bad matchmaking. I'm a yellow rank killer, do I throw a hissy fit at the rank 1 who was in my lobby. No, I don't because I know it wasn't their fault.
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Well , if that's your way of having fun then enjoy I guess.
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I won't. It's the only way I can safety pip, it gives me literally no progress but that beats going backwards.
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Im main killer and we have 3 groups of SWF
SWAT team that gen rush fast and furious.
Friends group that play properly as team (being bad or good players that doesnt matter)
Friends that play meme build and we all play relaxed.
Except the last one those first two types need serious adress as If you play properly with comms you are using a tool that game was not made of being you a good player or bad.
Voicecomms is not a hack but it acts like that, its a programm that give unfair advantage to one side. So need to be adressed if devs want it to stay.
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They're aware it gives an advantage and frankly there's nothing they can do without losing a large amount of the playerbase. Survivors would counter they "just play for fun" to try and defer acknowledgement that it's an exploit, regardless, we're stuck with it.
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So what sort of swf then. 2 man, 3 man or 4 man?
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It varies
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